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Snugglepuff

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Did he even finish the first one?
No...

From my understanding it's not done yet. The Dev is still working on a couple things and then wrapping up because the game has expanded beyond their original scope. Like if I'm not mistaken, the last level is still unbeatable or at the very least really hard
It expanded beyond the original scope at least half-a-dozen times, including the need for complete restarts/rewrites, cutting content and entire sections out only to re-add some in different forms.
That's all before changing to RPGMaker too.
 

DDSDD

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From my understanding it's not done yet. The Dev is still working on a couple things and then wrapping up because the game has expanded beyond their original scope. Like if I'm not mistaken, the last level is still unbeatable or at the very least really hard
This game has been around for a decade at least I believe, the fact he couldn't even finish it and it's moving to a second one really gives me bad "fund me" vibes at this point.
 
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I think I saw somewhere earlier in this thread that the reason for the change is that technical debt and cruft have gotten so bad that it's easier to throw it out and start over.
 
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fdragonx7

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Gaming question: I reed the wiki and I'm still confuse / wondering what is the use of color werm and all ?
Do we need them orther than the cyan versions ?
you dont need them but there are minor variations to things with the various colors. sizes of parts, behavior of npcs i think? red was aggressive and the other blue one made either your tits or ass way bigger than the cyan werms did iirc.
 

fdragonx7

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I think I saw somewhere earlier in this thread that the reason for the change is that technical debt and cruft have gotten so bad that it's easier to throw it out and start over.
while that definitely can be (and very likely is ) the case for development decisions like this, the core issue still remains that even before the majority of bugs in the first 2 chapters were sorted out chapters 3-5 were put in the game is an issue. i remember there were a few times where there was way more content in the game and then an update came and fucked everything over. I haven't actually redownloaded this in like a couple years at this point because the changelog has such minor tweaks that i very much doubt the game is even as far as some early builds got even all this time later.

basically, dev needs to focus their efforts on the core systems and like a chapter at a time instead of making half baked chapters all the way through their development. chapter 5 should never have come out when chapter 2 was still missing like half of its possible interactions
 

Belgrath19

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basically, dev needs to focus their efforts on the core systems and like a chapter at a time instead of making half baked chapters all the way through their development. chapter 5 should never have come out when chapter 2 was still missing like half of its possible interactions
Also be nice to see the capitalization fixed so the game doesn't double up on images

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Also at the start I can't see the legs of Chet and Chloe is missing.

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Edit: I'm using LibreWolf (Firefox but better) on Fedora 40 (Yes Linux).
 
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HarryHill99

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Game seems to have stagnated for a while for new content (mainly just bug fixes that I can see). Is there any stated planned progress for the game anywhere? (i.e. planned/future content) The premise is good but just seems to be not going anywhere for a long time.
 

Anon_Ymous

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Game seems to have stagnated for a while for new content (mainly just bug fixes that I can see). Is there any stated planned progress for the game anywhere? (i.e. planned/future content) The premise is good but just seems to be not going anywhere for a long time.
The plan is to scrap everything and start over, but this time with AI art.
I'm not joking.
 

fdragonx7

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The plan is to scrap everything and start over, but this time with AI art.
I'm not joking.
that would imo completely destroy the game for me. the art of the characters was like the one thing that actually had me interested in dealing with this half finished mess. i dont want to see the thousandth hands melding into the partner and who's dick is it art.
 

bluefish69

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Ah i still remember the horrible section that was rewiring the brain of the target you infect after you finished the shopping mall section and the little base raid and breaking the game entirely if you played from the prelude up until then. Did they fix the 5th chapter yet or still crashes and corrupts your save into constant crashing because you did XYZ in the wrong way at some earlier point?
 
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while that definitely can be (and very likely is ) the case for development decisions like this, the core issue still remains that even before the majority of bugs in the first 2 chapters were sorted out chapters 3-5 were put in the game is an issue. i remember there were a few times where there was way more content in the game and then an update came and fucked everything over. I haven't actually redownloaded this in like a couple years at this point because the changelog has such minor tweaks that i very much doubt the game is even as far as some early builds got even all this time later.

basically, dev needs to focus their efforts on the core systems and like a chapter at a time instead of making half baked chapters all the way through their development. chapter 5 should never have come out when chapter 2 was still missing like half of its possible interactions
Yeah I remember when I first played a couple of years back and loved the whole futa/impreg corruption concept it was going with, especially with the selfcest play it had going on in chapter 1, which left me with high hopes for more of that in later chapters, but as you said, chapter 2 felt way messier than the first chapter to the point were it made me wonder why there was even a 3rd chapter available to play, let alone a 4th and a 5th chapter.

Didn't realise there was a thread for this game on f95, so I was hoping that some proper progress had been made on it since then, but apparently thats not been the case :(
 
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I find it very funny that they're incredibly defensive about using AI, saying that in this exact situation it's perfectly fine to use it since it's not "replacing or displacing artists". But they're feeding the original art to the program. So... they're feeding ModeSeven's art without their consent to an AI to replicate their art so they don't have to pay for an artist...?
 
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This game needs to have a penis parasite to add an actual penis to someone and not just use a werm as a stand in. We are talking about dick and balls. I want to see if I can make a femboy.
 
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I find it very funny that they're incredibly defensive about using AI, saying that in this exact situation it's perfectly fine to use it since it's not "replacing or displacing artists". But they're feeding the original art to the program. So... they're feeding ModeSeven's art without their consent to an AI to replicate their art so they don't have to pay for an artist...?
Yeah...that's definitely a flag raiser for me too honestly. Like them replacing the art with your generic AI gen'd art 'style' that you see pretty much everywhere is one thing, but using AI to copy ModeSeven's artstyle for the sake of saving some cash is a pretty dick move honestly. Whether the artist is ok with this or not, thats the type of shit thats gonna make other artists steer clear of you if they thats what your gonna potentially doing with their PAID-FOR artwork when you part ways :unsure:

Maybe theres a side to this im not seeing, but yeah, it just doesn't seem right to me in my eyes.
 
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I find it very funny that they're incredibly defensive about using AI, saying that in this exact situation it's perfectly fine to use it since it's not "replacing or displacing artists". But they're feeding the original art to the program. So... they're feeding ModeSeven's art without their consent to an AI to replicate their art so they don't have to pay for an artist...?
Yeah...that's definitely a flag raiser for me too honestly. Like them replacing the art with your generic AI gen'd art 'style' that you see pretty much everywhere is one thing, but using AI to copy ModeSeven's artstyle for the sake of saving some cash is a pretty dick move honestly. Whether the artist is ok with this or not, thats the type of shit thats gonna make other artists steer clear of you if they thats what your gonna potentially doing with their PAID-FOR artwork when you part ways :unsure:

Maybe theres a side to this im not seeing, but yeah, it just doesn't seem right to me in my eyes.
The AI artwork is a step down, but lets be clear that, at least according to them, they aren't using it for money issues. Mode Seven just isn't taking long term commissions anymore so they can't pay them even if they wanted to. They've also tried at least 5 other artists over the years to replicate or at least integrate with MS's style and they've all been terrible. I remember those from watching the updates myself.

Personally I wish they'd just get an update out without art instead, but they are probably right that this kind of game is doomed if you don't get the visual crowd pleased.
 

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They have come out and said they are switching to ai art but that's because the artist they were using went silent and they couldn't find anyone to match the price to quality ratio.

Now with that said they are training the AI on the original art but from what I've seen they've opted for the more realistic style
 
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