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They can say all they want about it, they're training the AI on the original art, which is ModeSeven's art. You can even tell with the first generations that it's being fed their art and I'm willing to bet that ModeSeven wasn't asked prior to that, which is scummy af.
You clearly do not understand how art works.

If I made a Mona Lisa and retained ownership, then no one can do anything until the rights expire. That is the artist owning the rights.

If I commissioned the Mona Lisa, then the artist has zero say in what I do with the Mona Lisa, including using it as a basis for more art. That is the person who commissioned the art, owning the rights.
 

Anon_Ymous

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If I commissioned the Mona Lisa, then the artist has zero say in what I do with the Mona Lisa, including using it as a basis for more art. That is the person who commissioned the art, owning the rights.
He's just training a small adaptation (LORA) on top of a model that was already trained on tens of thousands of artists. So the moral issue is still there, for those who are into that.

I don't care, I just think it looks really bad. Both the generic "realism" AI slop style and the one where he's trying to ape Modeseven's art.
 

fdragonx7

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You clearly do not understand how art works.

If I made a Mona Lisa and retained ownership, then no one can do anything until the rights expire. That is the artist owning the rights.

If I commissioned the Mona Lisa, then the artist has zero say in what I do with the Mona Lisa, including using it as a basis for more art. That is the person who commissioned the art, owning the rights.
fun fact thats not necessarily true for commissioned art. artists can limit what you're allowed to do with commissioned art as its still their ip
 

CuriousWonder

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fun fact thats not necessarily true for commissioned art. artists can limit what you're allowed to do with commissioned art as its still their ip
True. But in this case the artist new it was being used for a game which the dev was making money through discord so if he did put limitations then they'd most likely be very specific
 

CuriousWonder

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He's just training a small adaptation (LORA) on top of a model that was already trained on tens of thousands of artists. So the moral issue is still there, for those who are into that.

I don't care, I just think it looks really bad. Both the generic "realism" AI slop style and the one where he's trying to ape Modeseven's art.
They can say all they want about it, they're training the AI on the original art, which is ModeSeven's art. You can even tell with the first generations that it's being fed their art and I'm willing to bet that ModeSeven wasn't asked prior to that, which is scummy af.
I do get the legal ambiguity of using AI art and personally do feel it is a significant down grade but to be honest they were kind of fucked either way as soon as the artist dipped on them. Higher a new artist and they'd get shit for either the art not being good enough or it be a rip off well using AI results in this discussion.

At least in this case they're using the existing art to train the AI instead of just generating images until they more or less fit.

Personally I just play the game for free and I'm just happy to see it continue
 
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