VN Ren'Py Peace of Mind: Watcher's Eye [Prologue Day 3] [Silent J Games]

[FatGiant]

just because some people doesn't want to see bi or lez content, doesn't mean they hate lez/bi people. I absolutely don't want to see it in my vn's, but I don't hate lez people. I thought the scene was fine. They made a good argument, just because it's a 3some doesn't mean they have to be gay and do gay stuff together like some people think. It was refreshing for once to hear that conversation, normally we have to read lez/bi innuendo chat from the dev and the mc liking it even if we have the option for lez off

 

[FatGiant]

No please. Let's not go there. He expressed his issue with that scene. I said my part. Neither of us will budge and I understand that. End of story. Back to topic please. Let's all enjoy the story. That's why we're supposed to be here. Happy thoughts.

Maybe you should make a scene in the game telling them that. Maybe then they would be all happy to comply.

Just a thought...

FML

 

[Silent_J_Dev]

Someone call the mod to restrict the comments. Issue is turning personal and political.

This is exactly why I asked that people stop attacking one another. Please let's keep it on topic. If that wasn't clear enough... STOP.

All parties said what they had to say, and more. Enough. Please.

 

[ravborn]

I just want to point out one thing over all these comments over the dialogue issue beside the point that its fictional your also talking about 2 girls barely out of there teens speaking like you could expect a 18-23 year old to talk so she says ewww big deal who cares its just the way she's meant to talk and its already established there a little immature if you want to read more into it go ahead but in the end anything written or said can be interpreted a thousand ways and if you expect someone around that age group to say sorry sir am just not into that well good luck.

 

[Black Orchid]

Silent_J_Dev just keep doing your own thing man, it it'll pay off. this is a case of a vocal minority, i would just shrug it off. you have a great thing going on so far. proper harem games are rare to come by and this is one of them.

 

[TKdropemoff]

well since the drama and nonsense is out of the way and everything got nuked.

We can finally get back to discussing the game!

Just want to say again dev that you are doing a GOOD JOB on the game. I like the way you are swaying away from the usual tropes.
No lesbian which is nice, and I like how the way the harem is put together and the Lis are likeable!

Rare to find real harem games nowadays where the girls only got eyes for the MC.

 

[sandora85]

Good job so far I enjoyed game.I'm seriously consider patreonge at least for 6 month.If game get constant update I will consider continue patreonge untill game finish.

 

[kazeiheikaya]

Silent_J_Dev said:
Please for the love of all that is Holy, do not set them as your mother and sisters. You have those and are part of the story.

wait wait wait.

So you don't change them?

I'm confusion.

woops.

jk i didnt actually do that, but I was close, with stepmother and stepsister

my reason for thus is when you get put up with a family and grow with them, they kind of are like your "step family" (related but not by blood) Aunt and Cousin definitely still works, but I felt like there might not have been any relation with the father. Thats my reasoning behind it personally.

Was funny when she goes to call you "cousin" and stepsister came out instead on the car ride. Instantly knew thats what dev meant to have in that dynamic from that dialogue

 

[BigJoe644]

Thanks for the input. Regarding your concern about the pregnancy content, it will always be optional. They could be on the pill or using the fabled rhythm. The story os progressing how it should to lay the foundation on what's to come, and there will be optional finishing moves in the future. But I need certain things to go down for a very specific purpose.

I hope that clears this up for you and anyone with the same concern.

I appreciate you clarifying things most Dev's wouldn't.

 

[twofacejoker]

It seems like we will become protector of the girls sweet finally a game I can follow and can't wait for the next one

 

[xapican]

Great Game, Kudos Dev. waiting with exitement how things unfold.
Keep doing your thing ! you do great !

 

[herrderr75]

"Genre:
Harem, Group Sex

Not gonna happen so don’t ask for it:
Sharing (Of ANY kind)"

Uhhm... ANY kind? All caps seems like a bit of a stretch here.

 

[Superocco]

"Genre:
Harem, Group Sex

Not gonna happen so don’t ask for it:
Sharing (Of ANY kind)"

Uhhm... ANY kind? All caps seems like a bit of a stretch here.

I mean, the MC will not share his LIs with absolutely anyone. Men or women. It's specifically implied in the last scene of the update as well. And no sharing means that the girls won't fool around or play with each other in any group activity. So, not really a stretch in here, but more of an emphasis on how things are going to be.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

"Genre:
Harem, Group Sex

Not gonna happen so don’t ask for it:
Sharing (Of ANY kind)"

Uhhm... ANY kind? All caps seems like a bit of a stretch here.

Means the Mc won't be sharing the girls in any way. So talking about the tag more than actual definition of sharing. No sharing (of ANY kind) *with regard to the girls. But yeah, I see what you mean, technically the girls are sharing the Mc so that is a general "kind of sharing."

 

[JoeTheMC84]

I mean, the MC will not share his LIs with absolutely anyone. Men or women. It's specifically implied in the last scene of the update as well. And no sharing means that the girls won't fool around or play with each other in any group activity. So, not really a stretch in here, but more of an emphasis on how things are going to be.

I was typing my answer when you posted yours,

 

[Silent_J_Dev]

woops.

jk i didnt actually do that, but I was close, with stepmother and stepsister

my reason for thus is when you get put up with a family and grow with them, they kind of are like your "step family" (related but not by blood) Aunt and Cousin definitely still works, but I felt like there might not have been any relation with the father. Thats my reasoning behind it personally.

Was funny when she goes to call you "cousin" and stepsister came out instead on the car ride. Instantly knew thats what dev meant to have in that dynamic from that dialogue

I won't comment on whatever you set there, but I will ask... Do you by chance have the patch that is somewhere on this thread installed? Because there is no use of the word cousin anywhere in my code. That may be the reason it showed up in your playthrough since I changed some variables as stated in the dev notes.

As I stated, and this is just a general announcement type comment here, the game is not designed or intended as an "I" game. It may seem to fit the narrative at the moment, but that will change down the road. Just a heads up in case it doesn't make sense later on.

 

[Silent_J_Dev]

Updated the GoFile, Mega, and GDrive links to reflect the current Day 3 Update with the reported typos corrected.

 

[Superocco]

I am going to take my time to address this one last time because, as I stated and feared, people are getting the wrong idea from other comments. The story/game/project always stated no lesbian content from day one. I gave a statement indicating that very scene with an explanation of my decision was coming soon. This is not me preaching, this is giving a reason to MY decision. What you do or don't do, like or don't like is entirely a YOU thing for which I WILL NEVER JUDGE ANYONE FOR. That's not and has never been the purpose of that scene. Is it an unheard of type of scene? No. Many scenes that involve straight girls turn bi have the by now norm scene of "Oh wow! I never knew it could be that great!" and we all accept it. This is my take on that. No preaching, no lecturing. It's just a scene. I never said lesbians yuck, sick, or whatever. It just says "not for me, thanks".

I want to share my piece real quick because I just found out about this game today and caught up with it almost immediately.

But, as I have stated in some threads, the common complain with lesbian content is that's pretty much everywhere in any harem game, very few times it's handled properly, it always seems like the best course of action, the canon way to play, and anything else is deemed as "wrong" or just missing out on content.
Funnily enough, the statement about the girls not getting involved in this game is pretty similar to an example I depicted in a comment some weeks ago. If you're in a threesome with another guy, and you're not attracted to him, it doesn't make any sense for you to do anything sexual with him just because you might get bored, you get impatient or whatever. If you don't feel like it, then you don't do it. Period. It's fine and normal having girls being interested in others, or at least curious, and having them explore that. Just as it is normal having girls not feeling that sort of attraction, therefore discarding the possibility immediately.

The dialogue and explanation was not preachy, nor judgemental, it's as natural as being straight, gay, bi or whatever suits your fancy. What's not normal or natural is always thinking that men go immediately nuts and dumb at the prospect of two girls fooling around, and that we'll always want for it to happen in our games. Some do, some don't, some might not mind, like with many other things. Just like no one should judge people who think that harems should include some love or affection between the LIs (since the reasoning makes sense), no one should judge either if someone thinks that harems should be focused on the MC exclusively, and that's it.

These games are fiction, what makes sense is whatever the dev wants for them to make sense, and any complains about that are just pointless. If the reasoning behind no lesbian/bi content in this game was some moronic, homophobic or sexist shit, then I would've closed the game immediately and ignored it forever. But this is just a purely logical explanation of why this won't happen, the most reasonable in my opinion. God forbid that sometimes girls are just friends and don't feel sexually attracted to each other. Such blasphemy.

 

[Superocco]

I won't comment on whatever you set there, but I will ask... Do you by chance have the patch that is somewhere on this thread installed? Because there is no use of the word cousin anywhere in my code. That may be the reason it showed up in your playthrough since I changed some variables as stated in the dev notes.

As I stated, and this is just a general announcement type comment here, the game is not designed or intended as an "I" game. It may seem to fit the narrative at the moment, but that will change down the road. Just a heads up in case it doesn't make sense later on.

I honestly tried the aunt/cousin combination to see how it worked out and, to be perfectly honest, it made little sense after the conversation Mike has with Hailey while on bed. Maybe I got a bit lost in it though, but how everything was worded didn't fit them being already blood-related, so I rolled-back and stick to the canon counselor/friend.

 

[a1fox3]

Means the Mc won't be sharing the girls in any way. So talking about the tag more than actual definition of sharing. No sharing (of ANY kind) *with regard to the girls. But yeah, I see what you mean, technically the girls are sharing the Mc so that is a general "kind of sharing."

And that is why this VN needs the tag "harem" because of the last update there are 4 women having sex with MC and they all know about each other.

I honestly tried the aunt/cousin combination to see how it worked out and, to be perfectly honest, it made little sense after the conversation Mike has with Hailey while on bed. Maybe I got a bit lost in it though, but how everything was worded didn't fit them being already blood-related, so I rolled-back and stick to the canon counselor/friend.

Well on my playthrough aunt and cousin makes better since than counselor/friend.
And every interaction with both cousins made since to me.