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DomWolf

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In the sense of getting what she wants from him. Selling out the MC gets her nothing, working with him does.
Besides, was there really any question that he would not still help her once Alice was returned unconditionally?
Not only does the MC realize it would help the Nergal side, and he would get some pussy out of it, but Naamah should be perfectly aware of what kind of guy he is, given she knows so much already about him.
There was a condition tho. Naamah said her minions will throw Alice through the portal AFTER he helps her claim the Powerstation. So she was still held captive, feet away from freedom. And sure she gets more from MC if he does help her but it's no real loss to her if he dosent. If she kills MC sh e has enough proof to convince Nergal it was in his benefit, that she was working in his favor. If MC sides with her she can work towards her own goals with MC's help.

Also shes obviously got her own agenda going in so its possible she set up the meeting to force MC to get the ID device from LOCO so he would come to her without involving Nergal. Shes definitely scheming behind her Lord's back.
 
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Also shes obviously got her own agenda going in so its possible she set up the meeting to force MC to get the ID device from LOCO so he would come to her without involving Nergal. Shes definitely scheming behind her Lord's back.
the more we talk about it, the more I'm convinced Nergal didn't want the war but his lieutenants misunderstood his orders an istigated by LoL's forces started the goblin war. I'd dare to speculate that Erevi is recieving instructions from Naamah and not Nergal
 
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the more we talk about it, the more I'm convinced Nergal didn't want the war but his lieutenants misunderstood his orders an istigated by LoL's forces started the goblin war. I'd dare to speculate that Erevi is recieving instructions from Naamah and not Nergal
I feel Nergal most likley did want the war, only because his ego/pride was hurt over Qetesh cheating on him with a mortal. Dosent mean others aren't using this conflict for their own gain.

Qetesh is a positive being, one leaning closer to the angelic which probably didnt sit well with Nergal's followers tbh so the second they were given the go ahead they would definitely go all out on the slaughter! But Nergal's direct minions are demons so I wouldnt put it past the smarter, stronger ones to have their own agenda, clawing & backstabbing their way up the ranks while kicking their rivals back down. Naamah having her own agenda makes sense (especially if my theory in how gods in this setting work is correct). Naamah is definetly working her own plans & intends to use MC for her own goals. Wether this will actively oppose her lord or merely put herself in a greater position of power is yet to be seen. But let's be honest, you can never truly truse demons. Not even those in you're own service.

I would not be surprised to find out the Lord of Light had something to do with, or was the mastermind behind, triggering the war. If we believe he has a Sis-Con & that hes as prudish as he seems (the way he holds chastity, celibacy & marriage at such high standards), combined these elements & we have a figure of great jealousy. Also for LoL it would be 2 birds, 1 stone. The war has left his sister with no followers capable of active worship & her memory basically forgotten which puts her in a weakened, desperate state, the weaker she is the more LoL can try to push her to his side & to join him, if only to gain a sliver of his followers worship. But the war also triggered a mass slaughter against Nergal's followers, crippling the demon god (who embodies everything LoL HATES).

Wouldnt be surprised to find hes the main Big Bad at the end.
 

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I would not be surprised to find out the Lord of Light had something to do with, or was the mastermind behind, triggering the war. If we believe he has a Sis-Con & that hes as prudish as he seems (the way he holds chastity, celibacy & marriage at such high standards), combined these elements & we have a figure of great jealousy. Also for LoL it would be 2 birds, 1 stone. The war has left his sister with no followers capable of active worship & her memory basically forgotten which puts her in a weakened, desperate state, the weaker she is the more LoL can try to push her to his side & to join him, if only to gain a sliver of his followers worship. But the war also triggered a mass slaughter against Nergal's followers, crippling the demon god (who embodies everything LoL HATES).

Wouldnt be surprised to find hes the main Big Bad at the end.
I see the main menu image as spoiler for things to come. MC is brandishing a fork against a ray of light while ziva and Erevi look up to him. That looks like MC united the 2 factions and is fighting the LoL.
 
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I'll just round this discussion out by saying that I am a great appreciator of characters who are consistently (and not situationally) written to be smart, and consider that to be an expression of great skill on the part of the writer.
You don't see it often, and it's something of a lost art by this point.
 
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How the hell do you get through the 1st room of The Crown of Sorcery? Been a while since I last played this, don't have my old saves & keep getting fried.
 

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Honestly, I feel like the problem could've been avoided by making MC fold to her to save Alice, while also making a choice about whether or not he wants to take revenge one day

Making him simply fold without real desire of revenge makes me feel like MC doesn't care as much about Alice
Would he had reacted the same if it was an actual "important" girl, like Everi for example?
The revenge could be something small like MC wanting to become the dominant one in their relationship, for example

But to be honest, I'm not a fan of how the game lets you get every girl without any actual justification or consequence, if it was a world where sex is everywhere, I wouldn't mind as much, but here, it's more of a classic medieval fantasy setting (but on the poor people's side of things mostly)

It's a bit hard to explain, but I don't like how the developer doesn't want to make an actual choice between "choose the ones you care about the most" (by making some choices where you can't have both, for example with the giant girls), or "make a big happy harem" (by making everyone aware of the situation and agreeing with it)
It makes the MC care about all the girls, yet despite that, try to hide his relationship no matter what, and the girls don't like it when they find out, until they don't mind it anymore because they made up with sex or whatever

There's also the girls with actual choices, but they are mostly "remove her from the story for no reward" or "make her your lover"
For example, I feel like the choice to let Oksana keep her religion would've had a much better payoff in the end, instead of simply making her yet another Qetesh priestess (it can still happen tho, mind you, but I don't think it will at this point)

But that's not really the subject here to be fair, and I could probably talk for hours about what I like and what I don't like about the character writing in this game
 
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How the hell do you get through the 1st room of The Crown of Sorcery? Been a while since I last played this, don't have my old saves & keep getting fried.
Stay to the side, hug the wall & only leave to pop around fire balls when you have to
There is another way: you can see the room as having "5 lanes", with rows of slow flame, fast flame, slow flame, fast flame, ...
You can advance step by step, through "lane 2" or "lane 4", waiting in the slow flame rows for the fast flame to past and advance to the next slow flame row, and repeat.
It is a close call, but its possible to get through the room unscathered or almost without damage.
 
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Just a warning to anyone doing a playthough - When you go to meet the goblin girl a second time, try and clear the area first. Immediately after winning the fight and getting the second scene, I had another 2 back to back battles without time to heal in between.

The map would load with a wolf in my personal space as well as a double goblin fight :'(
 
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Just a warning to anyone doing a playthough - When you go to meet the goblin girl a second time, try and clear the area first. Immediately after winning the fight and getting the second scene, I had another 2 back to back battles without time to heal in between.

The map would load with a wolf in my personal space as well as a double goblin fight :'(
The same is advisable for the third fight. You are left with 1 HP and need some breathing space to heal or sneak to Weirdwood or Frida's house.
 
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Hi! Just finished up the latest update, and I wanted to report a small bug on one of the latest quests :
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Oh, also there's a small mistake in the walkthrough : quest 172 Naamah's deal mentions releasing Beth instead of Alice.

Cheers again, awesome game!
 

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Hi! Just finished up the latest update, and I wanted to report a small bug on one of the latest quests :
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Oh, also there's a small mistake in the walkthrough : quest 172 Naamah's deal mentions releasing Beth instead of Alice.

Cheers again, awesome game!
We will report it, Does the saves at the point the bench is missing ?
 
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