M3ntir

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I can understand that. The idea I proposed could be a whole game on its own and its a lot of work.

You don't seem to like the idea of goblin kids dying but I want to mention it happens in PQ itself already. They are goblins, that's how they survive.

I would also like to disagree on the part where you said it will have very little payoff. How many adult games have you played with default RPG maker's combat system, just all of them and they are boring and tedious many times. I think many people would like to have actual gameplay of some kind even if its not tower defense.

The idea of tower defense adult game with goblins is something I was thinking for my own game(don't have time for making it. yet) because Its seems so perfect - goblins make more goblins to survive by fighting against the threat that comes to their home - just that little thing is already a perfect gameplay loop for a adult tower defense game.
I sincerely suggested it for PQ is because most of the setup(story wise) for creating this is already there - goblins, their home and a way to increase their number and only tower defense mechanic is missing. It would be a breath of fresh air to just having default combat systems.

For your last point, I agree it would take the focus away form other girls in the world. I don't have much of a argument against this besides goblins have a lot of potential and they are fascinating. I love any new interpretations of goblin behaviors and it doesn't seem to get boring at all. So, obviously I would love more goblin content, that's all.

And finally, I just like to see what people are doing. So, I just lurk around and don't really participate because I don't have much to share. That is why that was my first post despite being on the platform for years.
in my eyes there is no payoff for you idea, special the amount of Hours/days/weeks it takes to make and test before can be used propper. Gold isnt a game issue after becoming mayor, or having some goblins (special if you have the farm making pumpkins and sell those. Secondly most people dont care for it, they want to be rushing through the game, lots of people cheat engine their MC, ( and fuck up their game with 99 items or event triggers . so be warned) so 1 shotting enemys is like a 5 second encounter instead of full battle of Tower defense.

(lots of people even dont want to play the game unless its a VN due they dont want to grind or put in effort )

Can fully understand your love for the game and want to see more of it and become even bigger game. but keep it simple, the core is porn and some kinks like pregnancys so very wide Battlesystem isnt needed. If it was normal RPG without porn i can stand by your idea.
 
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M3ntir

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I guess it cannot be communicated through words. If I make a game based on my idea and present it to you guys, It will be obvious how much fun it can be and how much potential it unlocks. If people are playing just of the porn why are they using a cheat engine when they can just open the images folder and see all the goodness very easily.
never said it could be bad, but dont want to be disrespectfull but if you have made that, let us also know how many hours you spend on making it, due Tinkerer cant just spend 10/20 hours or more just on a idea that ''could'' work.
 

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I don't want to comment on technical side of things just because I haven't touched RPGM in like a decade but, I do use Unity and Godot almost everyday. A simple tower defense system for a top down pixel art game could be prototyped in a week and polished in a month and all there will be left is to add content.

I also want to add that I don't expect Tinkerer to add anything I suggested into the game. Me directing my first post directly to Tinkerer is still just a suggestion and I was more curious to see what the people would think, that's all. Thank you for the feedback.
I'm not sure if this would be worth adding to PQ BUT it's a good idea. Personally if u have plans to make a game like this yourself (when u have the time) I suggest u do so & keep the idea to yourself for now. Could be really interesting g to see such a game & as u said there isnt really any "Goblin Tower Defense H-Games".
 
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You don't seem to like the idea of goblin kids dying but I want to mention it happens in PQ itself already. They are goblins, that's how they survive.
When I talked about kids dying, I was talking about all the non-goblin kids the MC has with the non-goblin girls.

In your original post, you heavily implied that we could have non-goblin kids dying during tower defense in order to then have more kids with the non-goblin women.

I was saying that most players (myself included) wouldn't really be up for having non-goblin children die off in the game.

I would also like to disagree on the part where you said it will have very little payoff. How many adult games have you played with default RPG maker's combat system, just all of them and they are boring and tedious many times. I think many people would like to have actual gameplay of some kind even if its not tower defense.
The reason why I say that your ideas would have little payoff for both the developer, Tinkerer and the playerbase is because most players don't come to Peasant's Quest in order to play a tower defense Plant vs. Zombies game.

Most players come to play a basic rpg game.

Actually, I'd argue that M3ntir is the most correct when he says that most players just come for the porn.

You'd be surprised how many players use cheat engines so they can 1-hit all their opponents or how many of them ask for full saves rather than take the time to play the game themselves.

The truth is that most players wouldn't really be interested in or entertained by the mechanic you wish to introduce.

The idea of tower defense adult game with goblins is something I was thinking for my own game(don't have time for making it. yet) because Its seems so perfect - goblins make more goblins to survive by fighting against the threat that comes to their home - just that little thing is already a perfect gameplay loop for a adult tower defense game.
Ultimately, I think that your ideas are best suited for a game that you develop, yourself.

Just not Peasant's Quest.

A goblin-centered, tower defense, adult game sounds pretty interesting but I just don't see any place for it within a standard rpg like Peasant's Quest.

In addition, if you really like goblins, I'd suggest a couple of goblin centered games such as:
  1. A Goblin's Tale - Link
  2. Goblin Layer - Link
  3. The Goblin's Brides - Link
  4. The Last Goblin - Link
  5. Grolokk - Link
All of these should do a great job of scratching your goblin itch.

Although they'll leave your desire for a Tower Defense game mostly unsatisfied.


In the end, like I said before, you seem to be very passionate about this game and that's always great to see.

It's just that if you want my honest feedback then here it is: most players wouldn't be too thrilled to see your requests come into fruition for this particular game.

But having all of this in your own game could be really fascinating to play.
 

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When I talked about kids dying, I was talking about all the non-goblin kids the MC has with the non-goblin girls.

In your original post, you heavily implied that we could have non-goblin kids dying during tower defense in order to then have more kids with the non-goblin women.

I was saying that most players (myself included) wouldn't really be up for having non-goblin children die off in the game.



The reason why I say that your ideas would have little payoff for both the developer, Tinkerer and the playerbase is because most players don't come to Peasant's Quest in order to play a tower defense Plant vs. Zombies game.

Most players come to play a basic rpg game.

Actually, I'd argue that M3ntir is the most correct when he says that most players just come for the porn.

You'd be surprised how many players use cheat engines so they can 1-hit all their opponents or how many of them ask for full saves rather than take the time to play the game themselves.

The truth is that most players wouldn't really be interested in or entertained by the mechanic you wish to introduce.



Ultimately, I think that your ideas are best suited for a game that you develop, yourself.

Just not Peasant's Quest.

A goblin-centered, tower defense, adult game sounds pretty interesting but I just don't see any place for it within a standard rpg like Peasant's Quest.

In addition, if you really like goblins, I'd suggest a couple of goblin centered games such as:
  1. A Goblin's Tale - Link
  2. Goblin Layer - Link
  3. The Goblin's Brides - Link
  4. The Last Goblin - Link
  5. Grolokk - Link
All of these should do a great job of scratching your goblin itch.

Although they'll leave your desire for a Tower Defense game mostly unsatisfied.


In the end, like I said before, you seem to be very passionate about this game and that's always great to see.

It's just that if you want my honest feedback then here it is: most players wouldn't be too thrilled to see your requests come into fruition for this particular game.

But having all of this in your own game could be really fascinating to play.
Whats with the goblin fetish? i dont understand how people like those little buggers. I hate ugly smuck goblins,dragon lady and that old hag magdha. Game 'd be far better if they focus more on elves ,humans.
 

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Whats with the goblin fetish? i dont understand how people like those little buggers. I hate ugly smuck goblins,dragon lady and that old hag magdha. Game 'd be far better if they focus more on elves ,humans.
Dude you obviously can't see how gorgeous the female goblins are in the game & Maghda's an ogress which explains her warty looking skin & she's far from being an elder
 

M3ntir

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Whats with the goblin fetish? i dont understand how people like those little buggers. I hate ugly smuck goblins,dragon lady and that old hag magdha. Game 'd be far better if they focus more on elves ,humans.
As the head of the goblin fanclub on his server all i can say is, you can like and dislike what you want but doesnt make your more right than other person. TheGrandMasterCory was responding to other person who wanted add a feature for the game what has to do with the goblins so that is why he said those things.

personaly no fan of elves, bunch of treeloving know it alls so everbody got their thing they want to see added to the game.
 

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The real problem with the dragon girl is that I expected her to be a sexy lady with red hair like Alexstrasza, not a bald one……
 

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Dungeon Master catharsis i think it was called,but i think it was more like,"want some family content?no problem,but on my terms"but even so,all the situation fitted very well into that reference,so i must say,he didnt wasted the bullet,although i must say,i wasnt really ready for that,his game always stroke me as a happy go lucky style,and out of nowhere he goes full"Strugle with Sin"(one game i miss playing but that would never run on my joyplay)
got a link or know where to find it?
 
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This will be quite a lot of work but, I believe it will all be worth it.
I'm not so sure. Between more combat or more sex (sex partner), I think the choice is clear. I don't think people, including me, play this game for combat. I would avoid combat as much as I can.

If there woud be more combat or a new combat system, why tower defense? I like the combat system in Heroes of the Might and Magic (older ones). That's how turn-based RPG combat should be. Very doable in RPGM.
 

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The real problem with the dragon girl is that I expected her to be a sexy lady with red hair like Alexstrasza, not a bald one……
Honestly I have nothing against her look. Is she the hottest character in the game? No. Does she look more at home on an alien planet in a space opera. Yes.

But the fact she is a flawed "humanoid" figure that has large breasts, big ass & wide hips (the part that she & most dragons probably realise we mammals like) is an interesting look to me. I think if she looked like a human or a human with horns (mabey a tail) then she wouldnt be very interesting. And I know this is a porn game so sexy is the point, but I dunno I kinda like the look. It's not a perfect human apperance but a flawed humanoid form taken by a reptilian beast that is trying to survive.

I understand why people dont like her look but I think she could be worse.
 
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Bumping this, having the same issue. Was there ever a solution?
A 2-3 years old problem that might have been fix in recent update? Great work on using the search function.

Anyway, which game version you are using? (full, lite, uncompressed, compressed, android port, web). Any mod?
i beat the Ork boss in the wiches temple
Is this the Orc boss when you rescue Caleah (during the Restore the Temple)? If yes, then I don't have any problem with this scene sequence. I'm using 3.0.1A full with patch.
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If there woud be more combat or a new combat system, why tower defense? I like the combat system in Heroes of the Might and Magic (older ones). That's how turn-based RPG combat should be. Very doable in RPGM.
I just watched some combat gameplay from Heroes of Might and Magic: A Strategic Quest (1995).

Your combat idea sounds interesting but man, the combat would be slow as hell.

If Tinkerer did this, I hope he would add a combat animation speed-up option.
 

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I just watched some combat gameplay from Heroes of Might and Magic: A Strategic Quest (1995).

Your combat idea sounds interesting but man, the combat would be slow as hell.

If Tinkerer did this, I hope he would add a combat animation speed-up option.
he will never do that due dont make sense for his game / setup
 

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people treat them like porn with some annoying gameplay attached to it
I don’t think this is true. It’s just that the vast majority of games have terrible gameplay—RPGM games especially.

Default RPGM combat is terrible; and even when devs try to expand on it to make it a little more interesting, it still falls miles behind even very old games like Final Fantasy VI in terms of spell variety, equipment variety, character choice, enemy variety, bosses, etc., while also usually lacking any sort of long-term progression systems like weapon upgrades or the FF6 Eidolin’s/FF7 materia/FF9 item magic that would make it just a little more engaging. (And RPGM games that try to do anything other than turnbased combat, such as real-time combat, minigames, etc., just fail completely, as, as far as I’ve seen, the engine is just not capable of handling that.)

Beyond engine limitations, there’s the issue that most NSFW devs are not game designers. They’re programmers, or animators, or modellers, etc., who picked up game design as a hobby. This leads to a plethora of issues, but gameplay and level design especially tend to suffer. It also means that most devs are much more interested in the porn aspect than the gameplay. The result is that, in most games, the gameplay receives only enough attention as to make it functional, but not engaging. Worse case, the dev will themselves come to see gameplay as just an obstacle to hide the porn behind, which is when you start to get really tedious, grindy gameplay. (And example of this would be Breeders of the Nephelym. Or all the potion making in Peasant’s Quest.)

In light of this, I don’t think it’s surprising that a lot of players come to also view gameplay as just an obstacle for the porn. My guess is, if the gameplay in your porn game were as engaging as Dark Souls or Call of Duty, or at the very least one of the Final Fantasy titles, the question of whether people want more porn or more gameplay wouldn’t be so obvious.

I will say, there are a few games on this site the gameplay whereof I genuinely enjoyed. They’re not perfect, of course,—they lack a lot of the polish of a “proper game”,—but they were overall quite fun, even without the porn element. These were: Carnal Instinct, Iris in the Labyrinth of Demons, and Flying Princess: Inter-Breed.
 
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