Evangelion-01

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Yeah but Bat Breeder you fuck to make eggs. Venomina you fuck to make eggs.

Medusa/Lamia you fuck to make snake skin.... that dosent make sense unless you're suggesting MC skins her or her babies. You sick bastard :eek: :ROFLMAO:
You do realise that snakes shed their skin regulary while growing... right?
 

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The rape you referred to is a later Roman invention, the Roman's were not averse to a bit on incest, in fact they positively encouraged it for certain classes.
Probably why so many of them were lunatics.
Yup, Ovid fabricated it in his "Metamorphoses." But the classical Greeks also shifted away from Medusa being ugly/hideous. The earliest concrete evidence is Pindar's Pythian Ode 12 from 490 BCE ("fair-cheeked Medusa"), and she was depicted as attractive/beautiful on many vases starting about 40-50 years later.

Roman society was simultaneously fascinated and disgusted by the idea of incest. It was considered "incestum" (not pure/impure) behavior. Generally you couldn't get away with it unless you were powerful...if you weren't, you got socially ostracized, or worse. And among the elites alleging your political opponent practiced incest was very damaging if there was anything that appeared remotely inappropriate.

Even at that it applied mostly to your direct ancestors, descendents, and siblings including half- and step-siblings or by adoption. But once you got to third-degree consanguinity (ex: uncle+niece) it started to get distasteful-but-allowed, and more acceptable as the degree of separation got larger.

"Incestum" covered a whole lot of other things as well. I remember something about a Roman senator getting charged with incestum by sneaking into an female-only religious ceremony dressed in drag. He didn't do anything sexual, just snuck in to witness it.
 
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Yup, Ovid fabricated it in his "Metamorphoses." But the classical Greeks also shifted away from Medusa being ugly/hideous. The earliest concrete evidence is Pindar's Pythian Ode 12 from 490 BCE ("fair-cheeked Medusa"), and she was depicted as attractive/beautiful on many vases starting about 40-50 years later.

Roman society was simultaneously fascinated and disgusted by the idea of incest. It was considered "incestum" (not pure/impure) behavior. Generally you couldn't get away with it unless you were powerful...if you weren't, you got socially ostracized, or worse. And among the elites alleging your political opponent practiced incest was very damaging if there was anything that appeared remotely inappropriate.

Even at that it applied mostly to your direct ancestors, descendents, and siblings including half- and step-siblings or by adoption. But once you got to third-degree consanguinity (ex: uncle+niece) it started to get distasteful-but-allowed, and more acceptable as the degree of separation got larger.

"Incestum" covered a whole lot of other things as well. I remember something about a Roman senator getting charged with incestum by sneaking into an female-only religious ceremony dressed in drag. He didn't do anything sexual, just snuck in to witness it.
I kinda remember a Version where Poseidon had fallen in love or rather was love struck with medina/medusa and his wife got jealous and cursed her so her most prominent feature, aka her beautiful hair turned into snakes which also turned men into stone.
I am pretty sure that in that version medina was the highpriestess of Poseidons wife aswell.
 

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n someone help me with this problem, the bug fix cannot be opened, which you can download here
or maybe someone has a full save
 

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Agreed on adding them to "early" zones/quests.

Someone could custom order an outfit needing snakeskins and Edgar offers to buy them from the MC. How extensive/revealing the outfit is determines how many he needs. Even 5 coins per snakeskin would make them more worthwhile to fight.
In general, the idea with additional useful monster drops is a good one. But like almost even all non-erotic games set in fantasy Medievil times, PQ has no realistic trading system. It starts with the fact that there is only one type of coin: gold. In real Medievil times this was a monthly wage, and that only in higher positions, such as the captain of the guard. This then continues with the in-game prices. In relation, almost everything, starting with food and seeds, is senselessly overpriced.That's why the hunger system failed at the time. Hunger consumed so much money that it was simply impossible to exist economically. Now, however, the gold is being thrown at you. It is worthless and far too easy to accumulate.

I have already mentioned this in the past and suggested introducing silver and copper coins. 1 silver coin could then perhaps be worth 5 copper coins, 10 silver coins 1 gold. And then adjust prices and quest rewards accordingly. Then this would also work with monster drops, which you could then sell or use to make various things. Unfortunately the idea was not taken up. :unsure:


I'm happy that we at least now not only make money with goblin money, but also have the wine business with the elves wine and similar, embedded in good lewd scenes. :p The game needs more of that. (y)
 
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In general, the idea with additional useful monster drops is a good one. But like almost even all non-erotic games set in fantasy Medievil times, PQ has no realistic trading system. It starts with the fact that there is only one type of coin: gold. In real Medievil times this was a monthly wage, and that only in higher positions, such as the captain of the guard. This then continues with the in-game prices. In relation, almost everything, starting with food and seeds, is senselessly overpriced.That's why the hunger system failed at the time. Hunger consumed so much money that it was simply impossible to exist economically. Now, however, the gold is being thrown at you. It is worthless and far too easy to accumulate.

I have already mentioned this in the past and suggested introducing silver and copper coins. 1 silver coin could then perhaps be worth 5 copper coins, 10 silver coins 1 gold. And then adjust prices and quest rewards accordingly. Then this would also work with monster drops, which you could then sell or use to make various things. Unfortunately the idea was not taken up. :unsure:


I'm happy that we at least now not only make money with goblin money, but also have the wine business with the elves wine and similar, embedded in good lewd scenes. :p The game needs more of that. (y)
Honestly the issues in regards to economy run even deeper... think about the basic stuff... how an erotic dressmaker survives in the boonies dealing with Goblins and Bandits going havoc on the traderoutes, not to mention the occassional Ogre or Undead.
How a village smithy without any direct acces to iron has military grade equipment on stock and the general store offers Items in quantity and quality to host any military campaign.
The crafting system is limited to potions which imits MCs own abilities to make a living as a craftman/trader.
 

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Honestly the issues in regards to economy run even deeper... think about the basic stuff... how an erotic dressmaker survives in the boonies dealing with Goblins and Bandits going havoc on the traderoutes, not to mention the occassional Ogre or Undead.
How a village smithy without any direct acces to iron has military grade equipment on stock and the general store offers Items in quantity and quality to host any military campaign.
The crafting system is limited to potions which imits MCs own abilities to make a living as a craftman/trader.
All of the trading in the game is simply not thought through realistically. The focus is on pussies and tits :p:ROFLMAO:
 

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Honestly the issues in regards to economy run even deeper... think about the basic stuff... how an erotic dressmaker survives in the boonies dealing with Goblins and Bandits going havoc on the traderoutes, not to mention the occassional Ogre or Undead.
How a village smithy without any direct acces to iron has military grade equipment on stock and the general store offers Items in quantity and quality to host any military campaign.
The crafting system is limited to potions which imits MCs own abilities to make a living as a craftman/trader.
Which is why us worldbuilding nerds struggle to find in-game justifications for stuff like this. :p

...I have always wondered what got into Edgar's head to set up a shop in WW...
 

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Which is why us worldbuilding nerds struggle to find in-game justifications for stuff like this. :p

...I have always wondered what got into Edgar's head to set up a shop in WW...
Honestly it never actually states that its ALL gold. It's just called Coins in this setting. But this game would get too complicated with actual currency, which is why most video games have one currency.

Mabey Edgar wanted to monopolise, like Marcus. He thought he could sell clothing, with his more lavish items displayed & put on high price. Also he could sell those potions on the side.

The business owners of Weirdwood seem pretty well off because they have a terrible habit of "keeping competitive".
 

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Which is why us worldbuilding nerds struggle to find in-game justifications for stuff like this. :p

...I have always wondered what got into Edgar's head to set up a shop in WW...
Wasn't he saying something about being forced out of the capital since he got trapped in a political power struggle of some nobles and went to the closest settlement he was allowed to continue his business at?
Might be mixing this up with some other game though... it's a popular setting afterall.
Honestly it never actually states that its ALL gold. It's just called Coins in this setting. But this game would get too complicated with actual currency, which is why most video games have one currency.

Mabey Edgar wanted to monopolise, like Marcus. He thought he could sell clothing, with his more lavish items displayed & put on high price. Also he could sell those potions on the side.

The business owners of Weirdwood seem pretty well off because they have a terrible habit of "keeping competitive".
Wait they do?
The sells line of the weaponshop owner... welcome to the only... I mean best Weaponshop nearby... doesn't sound like competition is an issue here.
And the Carpenter is pretty much the same... he might be proud of his quality but at the same time he makes it clear that there is no competition for days to travel.
 

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Honestly it never actually states that its ALL gold. It's just called Coins in this setting. But this game would get too complicated with actual currency, which is why most video games have one currency.
That's my headcanon. Coinage, lumps of metal, doesn't matter what it actually is, it's worth X coins when you spend it.
 
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Wasn't he saying something about being forced out of the capital since he got trapped in a political power struggle of some nobles and went to the closest settlement he was allowed to continue his business at?
Might be mixing this up with some other game though... it's a popular setting afterall.

Wait they do?
The sells line of the weaponshop owner... welcome to the only... I mean best Weaponshop nearby... doesn't sound like competition is an issue here.
And the Carpenter is pretty much the same... he might be proud of his quality but at the same time he makes it clear that there is no competition for days to travel.


Different game mate. Edgar never actually explains his reasoning.


They are the only ones but dosent stop them from rinsing the town. Also when he asks for 25000c & MC gets annoyed he says "I keep my prices competitive in the region" (MC does call out hes the only one tho).
 
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