Damagus01

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The devs need to nerf this mechanism as it has become unmanageable now.
Dev, singular. Tinkerer does it all himself. Well, almost...he has help for animations. And a QA person who checks things before test builds are released to higher-tier supporters.

The Affection Cheat IS a built-in nerf, if you turn it on you don't even have to use Awe (unless you want to). It's up to the individual player whether to use the cheat or not.


You can absolutely keep all the girls happy without using either the cheat or Awe, and still have time for other stuff. You sleep at a different LI's place pretty much every night and fuck every LI located there, but there's a 15-day grace before Affection starts dropping and fewer sleeping places than that. Sleeping+fucking+a gift when you do show up is generally sufficient to refill Affection fully even after a 20+ day absence. Some LIs' timers aren't tied to sleeping with them; a couple don't have a grace period at all, they lose (a very small amount of) Affection daily starting immediately.

It's still a pattern/routine/schedule to follow and some players aren't interested in doing that. And TBH there's not a lot of wiggle room left to add more LIs requiring sleeps...
 
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HungLow247

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Trying to enter the valley for the quest chalice. I can't enter the valley with both my daughter the succubus and ziva for some reason when i try to enter the zone south west the daughter succubus keeps saying we should leave and cant enter the zone.
I can;'t go anywhere else because ziva prevents me forcing to complete the quest . Is there a way to cancel a quest or remove a member from the group? I have the map to but doesn't show in the quest log with a the check mark as completed . Not sure whats preventing me from moving forward. ty
 

darkBlu

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You can absolutely keep all the girls happy without using either the cheat or Awe, and still have time for other stuff. You sleep at a different LI's place pretty much every night and fuck every LI located there, but there's a 15-day grace before Affection starts dropping and fewer sleeping places than that. Sleeping+fucking+a gift when you do show up is generally sufficient to refill Affection fully even after a 20+ day absence. Some LIs' timers aren't tied to sleeping with them; a couple don't have a grace period at all, they lose (a very small amount of) Affection daily starting immediately.

It's still a pattern/routine/schedule to follow and some players aren't interested in doing that. And TBH there's not a lot of wiggle room left to add more LIs requiring sleeps...
While I agree with the overall sentiment, I am pretty sure most girls are 5 days for affection to drop without sleeping in their bed for the night. Some of the new girls have been 15, so unless it was changed en masse in one of the newer versions most are still 5. Still, its barely any decay and is easily overcame by a single gift. Plus you can always awe everyone at once easily.

And if I'm wrong, that's great! I wonder which version changed it though.
 

Damagus01

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And if I'm wrong, that's great! I wonder which version changed it though.
Everyone was switched to 15 days as of 3.31.

Unless they have specific nonstandard degradation terms. Examples are Obeah (degrades if she isn't banged every five days), Hilde (doesn't degrade unless she has fewer children than Frida or Birgitte), Venomina (has no grace period for degradation), and the BB pet (doesn't degrade at all).
 
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darkBlu

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Everyone was switched to 15 days as of 3.31.

Unless they have specific nonstandard degradation terms. Examples are Obeah (degrades if she isn't banged every five days), Hilde (doesn't degrade unless she has fewer children than Frida or Birgitte), Venomina (has no grace period for degradation), and the BB pet (doesn't degrade at all).
Great, thank you for pointing that out! I totally missed that, as I never downloaded 3.31, only 3.32. Definitely makes things easier.
 

PhineasFlynn

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Trying to enter the valley for the quest chalice. I can't enter the valley with both my daughter the succubus and ziva for some reason when i try to enter the zone south west the daughter succubus keeps saying we should leave and cant enter the zone.
I can;'t go anywhere else because ziva prevents me forcing to complete the quest . Is there a way to cancel a quest or remove a member from the group? I have the map to but doesn't show in the quest log with a the check mark as completed . Not sure whats preventing me from moving forward. ty
You bit of fucked up yourself.
Best for you will be to load some older save and run these quest separately. Daughter is with you only for limited time, when you discover few waystones ther will be only minor events in Village and after that she come back to tower.
Be sure Victoria is pregnant when you run Daughter's quest.

And for got and everything what is saint for you be sure you have got Spicy mode.
 

HungLow247

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You bit of fucked up yourself.
Best for you will be to load some older save and run these quest separately. Daughter is with you only for limited time, when you discover few waystones ther will be only minor events in Village and after that she come back to tower.
Be sure Victoria is pregnant when you run Daughter's quest.

And for got and everything what is saint for you be sure you have got Spicy mode.
sigh.. that's what i figured
ty
 

DomWolf

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Trying to enter the valley for the quest chalice. I can't enter the valley with both my daughter the succubus and ziva for some reason when i try to enter the zone south west the daughter succubus keeps saying we should leave and cant enter the zone.
I can;'t go anywhere else because ziva prevents me forcing to complete the quest . Is there a way to cancel a quest or remove a member from the group? I have the map to but doesn't show in the quest log with a the check mark as completed . Not sure whats preventing me from moving forward. ty
How the fuck have u managed to get those quests at the same time?

I think you're gonna have to reload from a save before u accepted both quests...
 
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pussyhunter33

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How the fuck have u managed to get those quests at the same time?

I think you're gonna have to reload from a save before u accepted both quests...
its easy! if you start a new game and play like you whant to!
im ready to do the dragon eeg quest before i ewer did the Black goblin quest ;)
and i didnt finish vampire quest! I have the 2 men helping me in batlle its nice
Started a new quest and only used the hiden key to make my MC strong !
lvl 17 and 87.000 gold
 

Damagus01

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How the fuck have u managed to get those quests at the same time?
I'm betting edits. Or one whale of a glitch. Or...a bug no one's found before?

HungLow247 Succubus Daughter being born at all is supposed to be locked behind completing the quest Restore The Temple. Something is very wrong...if you have not edited the game, please load a copy of your Save so someone who knows what to look for can check it. If you did edit it, your playthrough is 99% likely borked beyond recovery and you should restart with a non-edited version. :(
 

Stil996

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How the fuck have u managed to get those quests at the same time?

I think you're gonna have to reload from a save before u accepted both quests...
I'm betting edits. Or one whale of a glitch. Or...a bug no one's found before?

HungLow247 Succubus Daughter being born at all is supposed to be locked behind completing the quest Restore The Temple....
thanks for that, I thought that too, but I was hesitant to say because there have been other quests that have be do-able in a sequence I didn't anticipate... made me doubt my sanity for a little bit though lol.
 

Damagus01

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im ready to do the dragon eeg quest before i ewer did the Black goblin quest ;)
and i didnt finish vampire quest! I have the 2 men helping me in batlle its nice
Dragon eggs can be laid without doing any goblin quests at all (and you can make stuff from the eggshells), but the later quests involving them can't be started until you have Obeah.

Nothing prevents you from skipping out on the vampires storyline as you did. Though maybe there should be... M3ntir
 

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Dragon eggs can be laid without doing any goblin quests at all (and you can make stuff from the eggshells), but the later quests involving them can't be started until you have Obeah.

Nothing prevents you from skipping out on the vampires storyline as you did. Though maybe there should be... M3ntir
probably i am stupid but what is the issue :D
 

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probably i am stupid but what is the issue :D
During the vampire quest Ashes To Ashes, Dust To Dust (kill Master) a couple of Purifiers join the MC's party along with Oksana. Dude is saying he never completed that quest and still has the Purifiers with the MC.

Maybe add something where once they (and Oksana) are added to your party you're locked in and must complete that quest. Like how Ziva keeps you from going off-course during the chalice and temple restoration quests, or you can't go to the Temple if you have ED with you.

I might be misunderstanding what dude is saying, though. :)
 
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Stil996

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During the vampire quest Ashes To Ashes, Dust To Dust (kill Master) a couple of Purifiers join the MC's party along with Oksana. Dude is saying he never completed that quest and still has the Purifiers with the MC.

Maybe add something where once they (and Oksana) are added to your party you're locked in and must complete that quest. Like how Ziva keeps you from going off-course during the chalice and temple restoration quests, or you can't go to the Temple if you have ED with you.

I might be misunderstanding what dude is saying, though. :)
Ditto for the Goblin quest where your kids are taken by the GoblinKing and Shakala & her goblin brute join to to get them back, it doesn't make sense they will accept a detour either.
 

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Trying to enter the valley for the quest chalice. I can't enter the valley with both my daughter the succubus and ziva for some reason when i try to enter the zone south west the daughter succubus keeps saying we should leave and cant enter the zone.
I can;'t go anywhere else because ziva prevents me forcing to complete the quest . Is there a way to cancel a quest or remove a member from the group? I have the map to but doesn't show in the quest log with a the check mark as completed . Not sure whats preventing me from moving forward. ty
probably i am stupid but what is the issue :D

The bigger problem is how this dude managed to get ED BEFORE completing the Restore The Temple quest when she should be locked behind that quest...
 

Stil996

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The bigger problem is how this dude managed to get ED BEFORE completing the Restore The Temple quest when she should be locked behind that quest...
I suspect the only real problem with that exists between chair and keyboard :p, but it would be interesting to see if anyone can replicate that "bug"
 

DomWolf

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its easy! if you start a new game and play like you whant to!
im ready to do the dragon eeg quest before i ewer did the Black goblin quest ;)
and i didnt finish vampire quest! I have the 2 men helping me in batlle its nice
Started a new quest and only used the hiden key to make my MC strong !
lvl 17 and 87.000 gold
But ED's birth is literally locked behind The Restore Temple quests so I dont understand how someone has ED with them for Waystones Part-2 AND they are doing Ziva's quest. By the coding of the game this is either a break caused by the player elmeddling with code or a major unforeseen bug that's only just raised its head.
 
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bra24242

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out of curiosity, has anyone ever posted a list of every single teleport location?

Also, bug report, if you wait too long after knocking up Alice, but before you bring her to the temple, she'll show the "baby" when you enter the temple, to you, even though she's still in the tavern. Bring her to the temple and she permanently disappears
 
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