DomWolf

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got 2 bugs, when I enter the rented house the game freezes without the bugfix and upstairs the game fails to load the spirit potion scene
Ok the first one I know you're taking the piss.

This is the first I heard of the spirit potion tho?
 
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Damagus01

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Not necessarily.

I'm not sure it's a "size" thing, it's a "space" thing... If I understand it right, it's a case of the engine expecting a database with x number of fields, while the size of whats in these fields don't matter so much.
IE
event 1, talk to blacksmith for first time
event 2, receive quest to find dog
event 3, found dog
event 4, claim reward
event 5, fuck dog.... (erm I might be misremembering this quest!!)

but my point was all 5 "events" might have the same weight from the perspective of the engine, (not certain BTW, intuitive guess)
so when transitioning from chapter one to chapter two you can keep the sex scenes while dumping the "one and done" quest events, drastically reducing the stress on the engine while keeping the stuff that matters
This is where Tinkerer's comment a while back about how "[he] should have used flags/switches instead of Common Events for some things" comes in. IIRC MV has like 5k each of flags and switches to the standard 1k CEs he mentioned in his last sneak peek post. Some of the blacksmith+dog steps could be flags rather than CEs, cutting back on how many CEs he has to add through the workaround. Disclaimer: I have no idea if he actually used CEs for all those steps, just continuing with your example. :)

A rebuild that uses what he's learned would, I think, be a lot more stable and probably support more content on top of what's already there. But like I've said it would be a very large project to do, even if he stays with MV (MZ apparently has some significant differences that would need to be learned).
 

Stil996

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Maybe you are right. But if Think change this quests and made from one bigger, it should lead to some bugs, probably to fresh start of game and this is crazy idea in this point of game. Maybe somewhere 3 years ago.
This is where Tinkerer's comment a while back about how "[he] should have used flags/switches instead of Common Events for some things" comes in. IIRC MV has like 5k each of flags and switches to the standard 1k CEs he mentioned in his last sneak peek post. Some of the blacksmith+dog steps could be flags rather than CEs, cutting back on how many CEs he has to add through the workaround. Disclaimer: I have no idea if he actually used CEs for all those steps, just continuing with your example. :)

A rebuild that uses what he's learned would, I think, be a lot more stable and probably support more content on top of what's already there. But like I've said it would be a very large project to do, even if he stays with MV (MZ apparently has some significant differences that would need to be learned).
I don't think the previous chapters would affect subsequent chapters in any way, I wasn't suggesting porting over the code/flags/CE's :p. Each chapter would essentially be a standalone game that has "custom starts" based on a transition save (after all everyone has to complete the same journey more or less to complete each chapter)

The transition save would essentially be brief note of the variables that are coming over, Names and stats mostly. along with the status of any optional quests Tinkerer wants to bridge the chapters (or he could simply have any incomplete quests auto fail)
 

DomWolf

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I don't think the previous chapters would affect subsequent chapters in any way, I wasn't suggesting porting over the code/flags/CE's :p. Each chapter would essentially be a standalone game that has "custom starts" based on a transition save (after all everyone has to complete the same journey more or less to complete each chapter)

The transition save would essentially be brief note of the variables that are coming over, Names and stats mostly. along with the status of any optional quests Tinkerer wants to bridge the chapters (or he could simply have any incomplete quests auto fail)
I would keep the current game as "Chapter One" based around the rising power/feud between the Temple & Tower, & othe powers in the region.

"Chapter Two" would be set after all these events & can be the boiling point where things get spicey...
 

Pdoan

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bad example, GH is linear and you don't have access to previous scenes, Tinkerer would have to port at least 50% of part 1's code and it would be a short term solution. A new story with a new MC in the same universe wold be a better idea
Only some repeatable scenes of the existing characters (if they appear in part 2) need to remain, or could be reworked as point of refference for the story.
 

Apta1311

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I have a problem. When I enter the mayor's wife's house for rent, the game freezes and I can't move or leave the house. I installed the bugfix file, but it still doesn't work
 

Pdoan

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I have a problem. When I enter the mayor's wife's house for rent, the game freezes and I can't move or leave the house. I installed the bugfix file, but it still doesn't work
Are you sure you put the fix in the correct place. It's in www/data overwrite the existing file.
 

riseandshine12

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the zone your in is from the gallery mode, its not in the default game
so... that broke it
Oh its my first time downloading gallery mod so i didnt know what it was. I will try to transfer my save to new file without it i hope it cures. Thanks for reply.
 
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