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Well, why... I noticed that Damagus01 (I think) is right. There is also an ALPHA-BAT suit in the game and if you put it on and apply the right perfume, then in the cave, regular BATs do not attack the hero. And BAT girls agree to have sex with any of them. It is strange that there is no reaction from the one sitting in the cage. So it seems logical to make sunscreen from LOTUS. Although again, if LOTUS is for the opposite sex, then giving away sunscreen based on it would logically activate NTR scenes. But there are none in the game (except for the start of the game with the guards).
 
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Well, why... I noticed that Damagus01 (I think) is right. There is also an ALPHA-BAT suit in the game and if you put it on and apply the right perfume, then in the cave, regular BATs do not attack the hero. And BAT girls agree to have sex with any of them. It is strange that there is no reaction from the one sitting in the cage. So it seems logical to make sunscreen from LOTUS. Although again, if LOTUS is for the opposite sex, then giving away sunscreen based on it would logically activate NTR scenes. But there are none in the game (except for the start of the game with the guards).
Well as far as I know the perfume dosent actually have an effect but I agree it should. Neither does do anything to the girls, it's not like a Pastry or the Awe ability, it dosent have a pheromone or mind altering effect on the girls. It just smells nice.

Erevi says so when u give it too her, MC says he feels it working already & she says "that's just you're normal horny self" because the glands "only work on females of the species".

Both versions are made with Alpha Male Glands but I do agree. Lotus should be used for Sun Cream & as a gift for girls, & the Nocturnal should be used for Bats. It should be that no Nocturn and the bats dont react how you want but that's currently not the case. Theres no IN GAME reason for the 2 types existing.
 

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Well, why... I noticed that Damagus01 (I think) is right. There is also an ALPHA-BAT suit in the game and if you put it on and apply the right perfume, then in the cave, regular BATs do not attack the hero. And BAT girls agree to have sex with any of them. It is strange that there is no reaction from the one sitting in the cage. So it seems logical to make sunscreen from LOTUS. Although again, if LOTUS is for the opposite sex, then giving away sunscreen based on it would logically activate NTR scenes. But there are none in the game (except for the start of the game with the guards).
I like the thought of using a sunscreen (on a girl) that's based of the batpeople pheromone and having her suddenly mobbed by them... (Ditto for various species phermones :devilish:)... you can play it as a straight "sit back and watch scene", or "rescue" them for extra affection points.

Well as far as I know the perfume dosent actually have an effect but I agree it should. Neither does do anything to the girls, it's not like a Pastry or the Awe ability, it dosent have a pheromone or mind altering effect on the girls. It just smells nice.

Erevi says so when u give it too her, MC says he feels it working already & she says "that's just you're normal horny self" because the glands "only work on females of the species".

Both versions are made with Alpha Male Glands but I do agree. Lotus should be used for Sun Cream & as a gift for girls, & the Nocturnal should be used for Bats. It should be that no Nocturn and the bats dont react how you want but that's currently not the case. Theres no IN GAME reason for the 2 types existing.
Gotta say I hate the though of having one perfume for "girls" and one for creatures... Sure "creatures" as a species might be attracted to a specific scent, but different women tend to be attracted to different scents and repulsed by others, if we were to have a perfume mechanic I think it would be fun to have scenes where you meet one women while smelling of a different womans perfume, triggering jealousy scenes, gifting the wrong perfumes might have similar negative effects
 

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I like the thought of using a sunscreen (on a girl) that's based of the batpeople pheromone and having her suddenly mobbed by them... (Ditto for various species phermones :devilish:)... you can play it as a straight "sit back and watch scene", or "rescue" them for extra affection points.


Gotta say I hate the though of having one perfume for "girls" and one for creatures... Sure "creatures" as a species might be attracted to a specific scent, but different women tend to be attracted to different scents and repulsed by others, if we were to have a perfume mechanic I think it would be fun to have scenes where you meet one women while smelling of a different womans perfume, triggering jealousy scenes, gifting the wrong perfumes might have similar negative effects

I have never seen the Bat Creatures out of there Cave in game (except when MC actiy removes them) & they are only found there in the Weirdwood region. Not sure it would work lol. Fun idea tho if you're into that.



Well currently there is no true purpose behind the different essences. The only reason I say use the Nocturnal for the Bat Creatures is because the description literally says it's made from a mixture of nocturnal plants & creatures. Heck both could still be given to women as gifts but I think it could give more reason for the 2 types to have Nocturnal be used for Bats. Also it would be easy yo implement, like how Ward v. Infection now has the added affect of making Giant Mosquitos not interested in chasing you down. You're still get it if you walk into a swarm bit that's more on you lol.
 

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Well currently there is no true purpose behind the different essences. The only reason I say use the Nocturnal for the Bat Creatures is because the description literally says it's made from a mixture of nocturnal plants & creatures.
The quest Seductive Fragrance (v2.91) says:
"Lotus Perfumes can be gifted to women (only Erevi currently) for an affection boost. Either perfume can be used to attract bat breeders."
You're using Alpha Male musk glands in both and that's what BBs are reacting to rather than the other ingredients, so both working on them makes sense. As for the "pet" she's already horny nearly all the time, subject to Affection level...maybe an image of her being VERY forward if he's used either perfume, switching to an appropriate existing sex cutscene/animation?

I suspect the difference wasn't implemented correctly in the game. I believe I recall people saying they can make Sun Lotion 2 for Birgitte using Nocturnal perfume, when it should be Lotus.

As for different people liking different scents, fair. I've never, ever liked patchouli but one of my sisters loves it. I think the difference is more for gameplay distinction than IRL simulation. :)
 
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It's just (in my opinion) that the introduction of these DIFFERENT types of perfumes BREAKS the structure of the game very much, because then you'll have to do a lot. I'll give you some examples - For example, we give the girls LOTUS PERFUME, we don't visit them for a LONG time = NTR scenes (this is logical), we give them Nacturnal perfume and don't visit them for a long time = animal scenes -_- (this is also LOGICAL). But some of the characters are hybrids (for example - spiders, vampires, dragons). Even Erevi takes specifically ONE type of perfume from us. But this game is not at the level of the same A Struggle With Sin and it is more focused on the HERO and LOVE branches. I also don't understand what prevented them from making TWO recipes at once and giving them two different sunscreens to choose from, but the game only allows you to create one.
In short - the way out of this situation is to DELETE the 2 perfumes and leave only one, because such a LITTLE THING breaks a lot in the game.
 

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It's like you all haven't ever played a lewd rpgm game before, especially not one made by a small creator. Because those never have the start of overly complicated systems that eventually get scaled way back.


I mean with having an easily accessible bad breeder at home, and only a couple of one time events needing perfumes really mean we should have a overly complicated perfume mechanic in the game. The game sucks and is less than, unless we have an overly complicated perfume mechanic.

And the existence of multiple scents clearly mean we have to have well developed reasons that they all exist, other wise the game stops making sense.
 

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the way out of this situation is to DELETE the 2 perfumes and leave only one, because such a LITTLE THING breaks a lot in the game.

As far as I can tell, the ONLY reason that two exists was Tinkerer playing around with the idea of entering the bat gave smelling like a male, and also entering it smelling like a female.

That tinkering now means both are hard wired into the game, removing one, means you have to rework quests without increasing anything to the game, just time spent on removing things from the game.

Not sure why you are placing your sense of continuity so high above further developing the game. I mean I get that continuity is an issue, but is two perfumes really the thing that is removing your suspension of disbelief???

You can believe that you can ignore an LI for a week, but she is won back with the same bottle of perfume you have given her twenty times before, but only if isn't made from a scent that isn't incongruous to her background?
 

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The quest Seductive Fragrance (v2.91) says:
"Lotus Perfumes can be gifted to women (only Erevi currently) for an affection boost. Either perfume can be used to attract bat breeders."
You're using Alpha Male musk glands in both and that's what BBs are reacting to rather than the other ingredients, so both working on them makes sense. As for the "pet" she's already horny nearly all the time, subject to Affection level...maybe an image of her being VERY forward if he's used either perfume, switching to an appropriate existing sex cutscene/animation?

I suspect the difference wasn't implemented correctly in the game. I believe I recall people saying they can make Sun Lotion 2 for Birgitte using Nocturnal perfume, when it should be Lotus.

As for different people liking different scents, fair. I've never, ever liked patchouli but one of my sisters loves it. I think the difference is more for gameplay distinction than IRL simulation. :)
I'm aware of the use my point is theres really no need for 2 different perfumes if they dont have different uses.

I was just saying using Nocturnal for the wild Bat Creatures to keep them away/make Breeders horny. I wasnt really thinking of the one we keep as a pet.

I was just saying it would have made sense for the 2 to have different uses instead of just 2 things that are basically the SAME thing. Just feels like wasted potential.
 
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It's just (in my opinion) that the introduction of these DIFFERENT types of perfumes BREAKS the structure of the game very much, because then you'll have to do a lot. I'll give you some examples - For example, we give the girls LOTUS PERFUME, we don't visit them for a LONG time = NTR scenes (this is logical), we give them Nacturnal perfume and don't visit them for a long time = animal scenes -_- (this is also LOGICAL). But some of the characters are hybrids (for example - spiders, vampires, dragons). Even Erevi takes specifically ONE type of perfume from us. But this game is not at the level of the same A Struggle With Sin and it is more focused on the HERO and LOVE branches. I also don't understand what prevented them from making TWO recipes at once and giving them two different sunscreens to choose from, but the game only allows you to create one.
In short - the way out of this situation is to DELETE the 2 perfumes and leave only one, because such a LITTLE THING breaks a lot in the game.
But Erevi has made it clear the Perfumes dosnt make people horny. It's just perfume. The Breeders are horny cos it's made with Alpha Male Glands so I wouldnt say its logical for the game to go Lotus = NTR or Nocturnal = Animal Scenes (especially seeing as its gonna be restricted due to mod/patreon rules).

I still say the difference should be as simple as girls really like LOTUS so that's a gift & Bats like NOCTURNAL so that's used to get with wild ones.
 

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Just figured I'd drop another teaser image. For now I'm mainly focusing on images and animations. So my PC has something to work on when I start scripting. I've completed a couple of smaller scenes since my last post, and I'm currently working on a third, somewhat bigger/longer scene. As you may be able to tell from the image, the looking glass is finally making a comeback. I once had great plans for it, and then promptly forgot all about it. Better late than never I guess.

As far as a release dat goes, that is a bit of a though one. There are three female characters featured in this update and I kind of want to give them a bit of story before they start molesting our poor hero, so It's likely going to have to be a fairly large update. I therefore doubt I'll be able to release something before July. But I'll keep you posted on my progress, as usual.

Enjoy the rest of your week!



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Just figured I'd drop another teaser image. For now I'm mainly focusing on images and animations. So my PC has something to work on when I start scripting. I've completed a couple of smaller scenes since my last post, and I'm currently working on a third, somewhat bigger/longer scene. As you may be able to tell from the image, the looking glass is finally making a comeback. I once had great plans for it, and then promptly forgot all about it. Better late than never I guess.

As far as a release dat goes, that is a bit of a though one. There are three female characters featured in this update and I kind of want to give them a bit of story before they start molesting our poor hero, so It's likely going to have to be a fairly large update. I therefore doubt I'll be able to release something before July. But I'll keep you posted on my progress, as usual.

Enjoy the rest of your week!



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Finally the eyeglass has another reason other than spying on Beth! WHOOO!

Also that girl is fit! Who's the 3rd LI? Does that mean the older woman & client are different people? Is there another LI we havnt seen yet? Or is Daiyu playing a role in this as well? So many questions. So many theories. Not enough time!

Also DAM she is fine...



(I wonder if getting cought spying on the Baron's Daughter is how MC gets the noose?)
 

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Just figured I'd drop another teaser image. For now I'm mainly focusing on images and animations. So my PC has something to work on when I start scripting. I've completed a couple of smaller scenes since my last post, and I'm currently working on a third, somewhat bigger/longer scene. As you may be able to tell from the image, the looking glass is finally making a comeback. I once had great plans for it, and then promptly forgot all about it. Better late than never I guess.

As far as a release dat goes, that is a bit of a though one. There are three female characters featured in this update and I kind of want to give them a bit of story before they start molesting our poor hero, so It's likely going to have to be a fairly large update. I therefore doubt I'll be able to release something before July. But I'll keep you posted on my progress, as usual.

Enjoy the rest of your week!



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She must be the daughter from the previous pic & now I wonder will the mom be shown buck-naked
 

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Also that girl is fit! Who's the 3rd LI? Does that mean the older woman & client are different people? Is there another LI we havnt seen yet? Or is Daiyu playing a role in this as well? So many questions. So many theories. Not enough time!
Maybe the 3rd LI could be dwarf blacksmith's wife? He did mention a son which implies a wife. That's the only unseen woman in greyport I can think of at the moment.
 
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