DomWolf

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I think we should stop arguing here. Both games have their own direction that the Dev wants to go, they have their own pros and cons, and neither game is perfect. We just need to be kind and enjoy both while we can. Because no one can predict tomorrow.
We are not arguing. It's more a discussion. I don't think anyone is getting upset, game bashing or forcing their views. I was corrected where I had made a misinformed statement & Damagus01 was inquiring about the new info. No hard feelings or bad blood as far as I can tell.
 

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I don't think anyone is getting upset, game bashing or forcing their views.
I certainly wasn't, and it didn't feel like anyone was doing that towards me. In fact I'm probably going to check out ASWS sometime soon based on the new info. One of the pitfalls of the tags is you can't tell if something is core to the game, a minor element, or available but entirely avoidable.

The discourse here is pretty civil overall, seen some that most definitely were not...
 

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I was making an argument, but wasn't upset. Just thought that two players I respect here are missing out by not enjoying a game I think they would enjoy.

If someone in the ASWS forum was hesitant to play PQ, I would make the same argument there. I am in support of enjoying both games, not putting one above the other.
 
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Developer: Tinkerer - - -
Censored: No
Version: 3.75
OS: Windows
Bug in the carpentry:sick:

Someone is experiencing this bug.
I went into Marcus's carpentry shop and got stuck in this closet. There's no way out.
It looks like I'm going to lose a bunch of quests I've done.
I only have three saves, and if I use them, I'm screwed, I'll lose everything I've ever done... before these final updates, this never happened. Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed, what a shame.:mad:
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Bug in the carpentry:sick:

Someone is experiencing this bug.
I went into Marcus's carpentry shop and got stuck in this closet. There's no way out.
It looks like I'm going to lose a bunch of quests I've done.
I only have three saves, and if I use them, I'm screwed, I'll lose everything I've ever done... before these final updates, this never happened. Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed, what a shame.:mad:
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Do you have some mods beside spicy or gnome?
 

TanyaC

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Do you have some mods beside spicy or gnome?
I'm not using anything. I downloaded this last VS and it froze MC inside this closet as soon as I entered the store.

I played this game a while back and this never happened before.

I decided to download it again and play this new content because I heard that a lot of new stuff has been added to the game recently.:unsure:
 

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Bug in the carpentry:sick:

Someone is experiencing this bug.
I went into Marcus's carpentry shop and got stuck in this closet. There's no way out.
It looks like I'm going to lose a bunch of quests I've done.
I only have three saves, and if I use them, I'm screwed, I'll lose everything I've ever done... before these final updates, this never happened. Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed, what a shame.:mad:
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Find out the reason why Marcus's shop is laid out funny and you will likely find the cause of your bug.

I am not talking about the three grey pieces (that are for your bat breeder).

I do wonder why you jumped to this conclusion " Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed" when it is not something that others are experiencing, and is something wonky within your game, that may or may not been caused by you.

Please find the screenshot of what the carpenters shop looks like in my game, it's functional. For whatever reason, almost every aspect is different. Yours is slightly wider, a lot longer (your screenshot doesn't even show Marcus's back wall), flooring is a different color, wall border is a different color, and furniture pieces are laid out completely different. The fact that you are stuck in a piece of furniture tells me this layout issue is what is bugged in your save.

How old is your save? Marcus.png
 
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Bug in the carpentry:sick:

Someone is experiencing this bug.
I went into Marcus's carpentry shop and got stuck in this closet. There's no way out.
It looks like I'm going to lose a bunch of quests I've done.
I only have three saves, and if I use them, I'm screwed, I'll lose everything I've ever done... before these final updates, this never happened. Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed, what a shame.:mad:
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first time that this is been reported, so cant fix what we dont know is broken.
What version are you on? Due in 3.75 a new save the layout of the Shop is different
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Apartment817

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first time that this is been reported, so cant fix what we dont know is broken.
What version are you on? Due in 3.75 a new save the layout of the Shop is different
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Since we are talking about it. Is there a reason why the circle table and green chair block the entrance?

It's nothing I would ever decry about the game, but at the same time, I find running into that obstacle annoying every time I need to talk to Marcus.

It's not a complaint, but I do wonder why the layout is dumbly arranged ever time I enter.

The bed alone is enough of a Chekov's gun if that is what Tinkerer after, but I think he just wants a busy showroom for the carpenter.

My vote is to nix the circle table and green chair, but I am only voicing this thought because we are already talking about it.
 

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You can turn ntr off in Asws and even with it turned on you can prevent it. Ntr in that game is more a punishment that you kind of have to force to happen and is pretty easily avoidable even without trying very hard. I can't think of any real times in that game that ntr would sneak up on you other than maybe losing a fight with women in your party, but that's easily stopped just by turning ntr off. Storywise most of the mc's love interests are loyal mc unless you intentionally piss them off.
Yeah, I always cheat resources into Rumah so that I can handle the Orcs easily. I think I could win the battles easily enough not to see them fuck my women, but since I haven't actually done it without cheats for a few years, I can't be absolutely sure.

That is the only hole in my no NTR in ASWS with the switch on argument. Switch off, no problem.
 

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Bug in the carpentry:sick:

Someone is experiencing this bug.
I went into Marcus's carpentry shop and got stuck in this closet. There's no way out.
It looks like I'm going to lose a bunch of quests I've done.
I only have three saves, and if I use them, I'm screwed, I'll lose everything I've ever done... before these final updates, this never happened. Instead of improving the game, bugs just appear where they never existed, what a shame.:mad:
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Is there no autosave option..??
 
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first time that this is been reported, so cant fix what we dont know is broken.
What version are you on? Due in 3.75 a new save the layout of the Shop is different
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I can't get anyone's screenshots to load. But, I think I remember Marcus' shop being redone by Tinkerer a while back and subsequent reports of getting stuck there.

TanyaC Did you DL a full version, or just the Lite version? Lite only has new content added in the most recent full version, it doesn't have anything from before that. If you DLed Lite and your last full version was from a while back, the game is trying to play with outdated/incompatible maps & info.
 
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I can't get anyone's screenshots to load. But, I think I remember Marcus' shop being redone by Tinkerer a while back and subsequent reports of getting stuck there.

TanyaC Did you DL a full version, or just the Lite version? Lite only has new content added in the most recent full version, it doesn't have anything from before that. If you DLed Lite and your last full version was from a while back, the game is trying to play with outdated/incompatible maps & info.
nice idea to check the Lite version. if that is the old layout than maybe is the case.
doubtfull but ok.

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forgot that you cant even start the stand-alone game so that isnt the case :)
ask for the patreon thing so that wont start the game.
 

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forgot that you cant even start the stand-alone game so that isnt the case :)
ask for the patreon thing so that wont start the game.
If they have an older full version (more than one update previous) and just DL a current Lite version, the game will start & run using the older maps but pull location data based on newer maps. Hitboxes, people/stuff to interact with, etc.

IIRC that's why some players entering Marcus' shop got stuck, the old map had something already in the spot where the MC appears at inside the shop. And when they got a version with newer maps they didn't get stuck any more.

EDIT: Now that I can actually see the screenshots, it is definitely an older version of the shop. TanyaC, you need to DL the latest full version of the game. Remember to DL & install the Spicy & Gnomes mods as well if you want them. If you're porting saves over remember to also port the global save file.
 
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anyone knows a game similar to this ? even if its anime like ? i know town of passion its a bit similar, anything else ?
 
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