RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.81] [Tinkerer]

[Evangelion-01]

Yes we did but I see some of our viewpoints on it is rather different. Maybe the best we can do is shake fists and agree to disagree.
I do accept that the whole Potions thing skipped my mind but you are forgetting that the potions are a just another service that Ziva's people(The Priestesses of Quetesh) provide to the people you just have access to a Chalice to make those Potions if you bring your own ingredients... a Chalice That you/MC got back for Ziva. A Chalice while getting which you saved her Ass from getting raped by a Giant and solved some annoying puzzles.
She gave the MC Lodgings in a Temple that He recovered from a Clan of orcs for her. I don't like being sarcastic but What a Saint she is. As for the the Kitchen/lab thing ...the MC gave her 12 rare Crystals and recovered a gem from a dragon and since I haven't finished that quest in my main save or an exploratory one I cannot argue if her pay was or was not sufficient. As for the Threesome with Grug and Ziva don't be mistaken she isn't rewarding you she is using you to activate her link to her Goddess.
Also I am not sure if Grug only get's her ass or both her holes before MC gets a turn I saw that scene some time ago.
TLDR: to recall
MC : Brings Ingredients, Breaks her Curse,
Get's her Chalice,
Get's her Crown,
Liberates her temple from Orcs,
Gets her 12 Crystal eggs, get's her the Gem from a dragon.
Ziva: Makes MC Jizz on an Old Witch (which idk if it counts as positive or negative I guess it would depends on personal kinks)
Asks for 80 gold to use the chalice MC recovered.
Shares the recipes to potions her order uses for profit and gives access to the chalice MC recover.
Lets you have sloppy seconds on her vag.
As for the reward for the Eggs and Gem I cannot say since I haven't gotten there yet but it seems satisfactory to me since as Kukothemadhatter said you get to knock her up in the Threesome scene.

I won't even start on how Ziva's quest for the Crown has unleashed vampires on the little town that wanted to drive her away for their safety and yes the MC and Ziva are both responsible for that it was MC's carelessness but it was Ziva's quest.
We don't have to agree on it Man you enjoy the game how you enjoy it I enjoy it how I enjoy it but we both love the game. Also to me it just seems The MC hasn't been reimbursed properly yet. Maybe I am being one sided... but if I am...I am on the MC's side for sure.

Everyone has his/her own few on things of value... so I agree to disagree with you
The 80 G however are for useig her "special skills" in pleasing a man... not to use the chalice.
Not all potion recipes are from her order... the first batch of recipes are common and were aquired/mastered by Zivah while haveing to live a life of hide and run as a witch.
Pretty close get's fertility, barenness and Gigantus Phalus recipes (to H the bigger girls in the game)
...side rewards the player gets from Zivahs Quest... he get's to meet and H 3 hot Vampire sisters, he get's to breed a horny dragoness, he get's a lovely swamp Elf and (probably) knock her up in a 3 some with Zivah, and finally gets to save the village wench from a terrible marriage and make her not only bear his child but also getting a rather docile lover.
Oh yeah... and get an even stronger fertility potion
...additionally to previously mentioned benefits
Grug ONLY gets the front first if the player didn't fight him dureing their first visit to the temple... however he got the front of Frida first as she is his previous partner before breaking up (the player even "steals" the white lingerie Grug had ordered from the tailor before and gifts it to her without mentioning it's history)... I know I probably will start another fire by mentioning it... still had to

 

[Deleted member 159020]

Grug isn't Ziva's boyfriend though, hes a squatter demanding sex from her that she is reluctant to give. It's not just that she's having sex with another person , it's the fact that shes being pressured into having sex with another person while the MC can't do anything about it. I don't mean cuck as literally being cuckolded btw, I mean that the MC is being passive in allowing a person to forcibly move in on his sexual partner without doing anything. If you have a better word for that let me know.



I'm not denying that Ziva is a sex priestess, I'm saying that's not the full extent of her relationship to the MC. You usually don't risk your life fighting monsters for someone if your relationship is just whore and client. She seems to want to have sex with the MC but seems to not want to have sex with Grug initially. That's the key factor for me in this scenario. Was it just the size difference that made her reluctant? I thought it was Grug being cheeky but I could be wrong.

Whatever you might call it, it's not cucking and that's the whole point. People who bring cuckolding and netorare as terms in the discussion are simply flat out wrong.
Is the player passive in that scenario? He is, but that's a complaint about player agency and the game having a linear story instead of a branching story. It's a whole different matter. The game has a story and since it's linear you can't fine tune it to your tastes. But that doesn't mean you get cucked by Grug. Besides you concede it's not cuckolding then talk about Ziva being the MC's sexual partner: she is not! She has never been, she has only, up to that point, had sexual interactions with him in exchange of something else. She's used you to break her curse and then asked for money for every act. That's a whore for you, not a sexual partner.
And it doesn't matter that the MC is willing to fight and risk his life for her. That doesn't change the fact that she is a whore and has never established an exclusive romantic relationship with the MC.
The fact that she is reluctant in that instance to give in to Grug's request doesn't change the situation either.
Facts are facts regardless of how people involved feel about them.
At no point the MC and Ziva have been a couple before that scene, thus there is no NTR, cuckolding or the likes, the terms are completely misused in that instance.

 

[Zeca Suez]

Gigantus Phalus recipes (to H the bigger girls in the game)

Wait till the MC masters the Summon ability's transformational side. That Giantess and that Ogre/Ogress? will be begging my Lvl 30 MC to not Put his 6'ft long Monster inside of them. Gonna Transform into a Giant tentacled Sex Monster demon like from the old Slave Lords games. "Those that mocked my wang size will orgasm screaming" -MC ... hopefully i'll be level 30 by then ?
Oh Imagine MC using Summoning spell to transform into a GIANT giant(colossal) and picking up Frida in one arm and be like... "whose your Giant Daddy ?" she seems kinky enough to enjoy a role reversal like that :>

Everyone has his/her own few on things of value... so I agree to disagree with you

...side rewards the player gets from Zivahs Quest... he get's to meet and H 3 hot Vampire sisters, he get's to breed a horny dragoness, he get's a lovely swamp Elf and (probably) knock her up in a 3 some with Zivah, and finally gets to save the village wench from a terrible marriage and make her not only bear his child but also getting a rather docile lover.

I do also agree to disagree with you sir.
as for the rest...
Ya but as I suggested earlier that's quite a paradoxical situation, If A asks B to fetch a bucket of water from a well and B finds an abandoned bag of money on his way to the well while fetching water for A does A have any claim to the abandoned bag of currency that by sheer luck ends up in B's possession ? I am not saying I am not glad I ran into a Super Bangable Dragoness and 3 undead Hotties, I am just saying Ziva doesn't get credit for those finds as those encounters could have easily ended up getting the MC killed while Ziva just sat back and waited for the next Adventurer shmuch to walk by looking for a quest. Maybe my point of view on the matter seems too practical. But damn hentai logic commands I come up for more reasons for demanding/justifying more Sexy time. The Gods Of Hentai Command It !
Also pretty sure MC shouldn't mention that Potion of Enhance fertility to Ziva... that one is a big "No No" in her order, a Renegade priestess designed that and it throws a cock sized monkey wrench in the Temple's well lubricate machine.

Grug ONLY gets the front first if the player didn't fight him dureing their first visit to the temple... however he got the front of Frida first as she is his previous partner before breaking up (the player even "steals" the white lingerie Grug had ordered from the tailor before and gifts it to her without mentioning it's history)... I know I probably will start another fire by mentioning it... still had to

Wait..........
So you are telling me If I don't kick Grug's ass in the first Temple visit he doesn't loosen up her vag in the altar activation scene ? God Damn It Tinkerer ! You have foiled my Plans again !
MC paid for that Lingerie D: . I think as Frida suggested Grug just got GooGoo in the head with age and forgot about ordering it.
I have no issue with Frida and Grug being in a Previous relationship same as in real life... I wouldn't go to my Ex-Gf's husband and say something stupid like "So you know, I fucked your wife in the Vajayjay back when it was TIGHT !" (but an MC in a hentai game would totally do that) getting hung up on who fucked who first would be an Illogical and Unnecessary complication. Personally I think if the MC had just drank a Phallus Giganticus potion during the Altar Activation scene it would have Improved the scene and reduced some of the ickyness factor of going second after a giant.

Docile lover ? damn it I need to stop playing 10 games simultaneously and go back and finish up Peasant's quest first.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Personally I think if the MC had just drank a Phallus Giganticus potion during the Altar Activation scene it would have Improved the scene and reduced some of the ickyness factor of going second after a giant.

...that never happened though... Grug NEVER entered the front hole dureing that scene he only settled with the back entrance... no sloppy seconds included... if you ignore her previous time as holy whore.
The only scene before the altar 3some, where Grug could bang her is when you chose NOT to fight... and your logic sir is far to RL orriented... (NEVER bring RL logic into a fantasy theme)
in Ingame logic all those Events mentioned are strongly connected to Zivah and her storyline, hencefor are side effects/rewards connected to her

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

What we are ignoring is that Ziva is covering up for MC; the major would hung him if it wasn't for ziva, Alice would be shipped to a far away place and Caleah would still be the slave of an orc chieftain

 

[Zeca Suez]

...that never happened though... Grug NEVER entered the front hole dureing that scene he only settled with the back entrance... no sloppy seconds included... if you ignore her previous time as holy whore.
The only scene before the altar 3some, where Grug could bang her is when you chose NOT to fight... and your logic sir is far to RL orriented...
in Ingame logic all those Events mentioned are strongly connected to Zivah and her storyline, hencefor are side effects/rewards connected to her

Ya that is the part I am not sure about since The scene I got is the one after kicking grug's ass in the first temple visit and that is the scene I was referring to and as you informed me earlier if you chose not to fight him and negotiate as Ziva suggested then you get the alternate scene where you get exclusivity to get vagina during the altar activation scene. I could be wrong since I haven't had the opportunity to check but I am pretty sure the version of the scene I got had grug penetrating her vagina and that is the scene I referred to not the non-vaginal penetration version.

As for the Realism of the Logic well in my opinion it applies like this: I agree we run into the dragoness an encounter the vamps because Ziva's quests are prerequisites to unlock them but that is too technical a view to go by the programming. in the world of the game Ziva gave MC the quests without knowing of the existence of the Dragoness or the Vampires, Ziva actually attempts to stop MC from removing the crown which unsealed the vamps. She had no Idea if the MC would meet a dragon and fuck it or be killed by it or the Vampires so that doesn't get included in her rewards. If however the Quests were a command from an all seeing/knowing goddess like Quetesh then yes Quetesh would get credit for leading the MC's dick in the direction of Dragon pussy and vampire vaginas... and Quetesh might be showing up later to claim that credit regardless in the form of MC's child via impregnating Ziva, but that credit doesn't go to Ziva herself no matter what the coding of the game demands as prerequisites, You see what I am trying to say ? Only Tinkerer knows how the story will progress. if you immerse yourself into the world of a game some suspension of disbelief is required cause otherwise technically Ziva and all the other babes are just 0's and 1's x_x

What we are ignoring is that Ziva is covering up for MC; the major would hung him if it wasn't for ziva, Alice would be shipped to a far away place and Caleah would still be the slave of an orc chieftain

Major ? ... Oh Mayor ? Typo almost made me jump joy thinking there was more content that I had yet to explore. ah yes she is an endless source of knowledge and sub-plots just needs to be a better source of some more sexy time too

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

sub-plots just needs to be a better source of some more sexy time too

You really need to ring that bell and complete Alice's questline

 

[Zeca Suez]

You really need to ring that bell and complete Alice's questline

I Know x_x this is possibly the most active thread on here that I am "participating" in and you guys keep reminding me of how badly I need to finish this game... but ... but if ... If I finish all the content updated so far ... then... then I won't have anything left to do in game besides farming ... Hmmm and another Update is coming within a week... I guess I should just get over it and finish before the next update drops. In my main save the MC is 2 days away from finding out Victoria is preggers so there's stuff to look forward to there too. So glad il finally be done with having to set up distractions and peeping... Is there anything positive that comes from Burning down the shack where you set up the distraction fire ?

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

I Know x_x this is possibly the most active thread on here that I am "participating" in and you guys keep reminding me of how badly I need to finish this game... but ... but if ... If I finish all the content updated so far ... then... then I won't have anything left to do in game besides farming ... Hmmm and another Update is coming within a week... I guess I should just get over it and finish before the next update drops. In my main save the MC is 2 days away from finding out Victoria is preggers so there's stuff to look forward to there too. So glad il finally be done with having to set up distractions and peeping... Is there anything positive that comes from Burning down the shack where you set up the distraction fire ?

You get to spy on Victoria

 

[Evangelion-01]

Ya that is the part I am not sure about since The scene I got is the one after kicking grug's ass in the first temple visit and that is the scene I was referring to and as you informed me earlier if you chose not to fight him and negotiate as Ziva suggested then you get the alternate scene where you get exclusivity to get vagina during the altar activation scene. I could be wrong since I haven't had the opportunity to check but I am pretty sure the version of the scene I got had grug penetrating her vagina and that is the scene I referred to not the non-vaginal penetration version.

You got me wrong on that one... I meant if Zivah had negotiated with Grug he would have already taken a go on her front... but the 3some scene is him in the back (hole) and player in the front (hole)... considering the scene doesn't describe how MC and Grug destroy her front hole together they are useing different ones

 

[Zeca Suez]

You get to spy on Victoria

No I mean ... is there anything positive that comes out if you use too much pig fat and burn the whole shack down, destroying it ?

You got me wrong on that one... I meant if Zivah had negotiated with Grug he would have already taken a go on her front... but the 3some scene is him in the back (hole) and player in the front (hole)... considering the scene doesn't describe how MC and Grug destroy her front hole together they are useing different ones

Oh, ya I didn't negotiate I lost the fight, reloaded a save, grinded a bunch of levels and went back and raped Grug in a fight. The way I remember the Altar Activation scene is the MC was in her mouth while grug banged her gina then they switched. I don't recall the scene saying anything about him ripping her butthole apart either. But I can check and get back to you on the scene later ?

I hope we get better gear options soon too at-least for the ladies that join our party even if it is temporary but that might be a little too much to ask since Tinkerer would have to recalibrate the calculus on defense stats.

 

[undead2]

Updates?

 

[Zeca Suez]

Updates?

Soon... patience... just a little longer friend.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Soon... patience... just a little longer friend.

Technically the update is being tested by the test guy

 

[Zeca Suez]

Technically the update is being tested by the test guy

I Better go stockpile some cash.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

I Better go stockpile some cash.

What for?

 

[Zeca Suez]

What for?

Haven't upgraded to plate armor yet and gonna keep the cash to pamper the baby, incase she does join the MC as a party member.

 

[mts.]

rename www/saves to www/save

That was a typo the file is save and not saves. Although I still don't know of a fox for the problem thanks for your suggestion.

 

[randomv]

Whatever you might call it, it's not cucking and that's the whole point. People who bring cuckolding and netorare as terms in the discussion are simply flat out wrong.
Is the player passive in that scenario? He is, but that's a complaint about player agency and the game having a linear story instead of a branching story. It's a whole different matter. The game has a story and since it's linear you can't fine tune it to your tastes. But that doesn't mean you get cucked by Grug. Besides you concede it's not cuckolding then talk about Ziva being the MC's sexual partner: she is not! She has never been, she has only, up to that point, had sexual interactions with him in exchange of something else. She's used you to break her curse and then asked for money for every act. That's a whore for you, not a sexual partner.
And it doesn't matter that the MC is willing to fight and risk his life for her. That doesn't change the fact that she is a whore and has never established an exclusive romantic relationship with the MC.
The fact that she is reluctant in that instance to give in to Grug's request doesn't change the situation either.
Facts are facts regardless of how people involved feel about them.
At no point the MC and Ziva have been a couple before that scene, thus there is no NTR, cuckolding or the likes, the terms are completely misused in that instance.

She's had sex with the MC before this event, even if it's just oral that makes her a sexual partner. Most of the girls in the game only have sex with the MC in exchange for some good or service anyway, and only 1 of Ziva's scenes is directly paid for. And even then that scene is technically her providing an alchemy ingredient. I'm not denying her sexual history, I just don't see how her sexual history changes the context of the scene. She is still being pressured into having sex with someone else while the MC is there and does nothing. No character in the game except Shakala has established an exclusive relationship with the MC so is she the only character who can cuck you? I guess it would make sense for most female characters in this game to have other sexual partners but if a guy is forcefully inserted into a scene involving the MC it would still feel cuckish to me.

 

[E-Dog]

Whatever you might call it, it's not cucking and that's the whole point. People who bring cuckolding and netorare as terms in the discussion are simply flat out wrong.
Is the player passive in that scenario? He is, but that's a complaint about player agency and the game having a linear story instead of a branching story. It's a whole different matter. The game has a story and since it's linear you can't fine tune it to your tastes. But that doesn't mean you get cucked by Grug. Besides you concede it's not cuckolding then talk about Ziva being the MC's sexual partner: she is not! She has never been, she has only, up to that point, had sexual interactions with him in exchange of something else. She's used you to break her curse and then asked for money for every act. That's a whore for you, not a sexual partner.
And it doesn't matter that the MC is willing to fight and risk his life for her. That doesn't change the fact that she is a whore and has never established an exclusive romantic relationship with the MC.
The fact that she is reluctant in that instance to give in to Grug's request doesn't change the situation either.
Facts are facts regardless of how people involved feel about them.
At no point the MC and Ziva have been a couple before that scene, thus there is no NTR, cuckolding or the likes, the terms are completely misused in that instance.

Cucking is about being dominated. MC is NOT being dominated. It is amusing sometimes to watch peeps throw the ntr and cucking terms around without really understanding what they mean.