RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.81] [Tinkerer]

[DomWolf]

It seems we define intelligence and being sentinel differently which is the main cause of this argument.
For me being sentinel means to have an awareness as a living being and other around you which allows you to build primitive enclaves based on social ties.
For me intelligence is being able to comprehend the world around you and use it to your advantage, like crafting and useing tools, makeing fire, etc.

The Were-species in this game all have a certain level of sentinelity, which differs them from mere beasts, but they lack an understanding of the world or a learning ability in regards to things outside instinct and mere survival.
It's a limiter that prevents them to become an advanced civilization at all.

Firstly I do not see this as an argument but a discussion I am greatly enjoying. Secondly sentientce & sapience are very different but easily mixed concepts. All animals are sentient, but sapience is the ability to retain wisdom (the thing that puts humans above most animals) when I say they are "semi-inteligent" i mean they appear to be somewhere between sentient & sapient but not fully there yet. I'm not saying they can understand the common tongue or be Civilised (as they are) but they have a sort of proto-inteligence about them. At least from how I perceive the Bat Breeder interactions in the dungeon.

Also I agree with the Were-Creature comment. I mean to be honest the were-wolves/plaguewolves are humans cursed into monsterous beasts, there humanity lost (with some primal urges left over) but that's also why I put "were-spider" in air quotes, because they can learn, adapt & commune with civilised races. They r not "cursed humans" but a magical hybrid race born from polymorphed cross-breeding...


I thought of this more as a debate more then an argument my friend .

 

[Evangelion-01]

Firstly I do not see this as an argument but a discussion I am greatly enjoying. Secondly sentientce & sapience are very different but easily mixed concepts. All animals are sentient, but sapience is the ability to retain wisdom (the thing that puts humans above most animals) when I say they are "semi-inteligent" i mean they appear to be somewhere between sentient & sapient but not fully there yet. I'm not saying they can understand the common tongue or be Civilised (as they are) but they have a sort of proto-inteligence about them. At least from how I perceive the Bat Breeder interactions in the dungeon.

Also I agree with the Were-Creature comment. I mean to be honest the were-wolves/plaguewolves are humans cursed into monsterous beasts, there humanity lost (with some primal urges left over) but that's also why I put "were-spider" in air quotes, because they can learn, adapt & commune with civilised races. They r not "cursed humans" but a magical hybrid race born from polymorphed cross-breeding...


I thought of this more as a debate more then an argument my friend .

I can see that these terms seem to be tied to a deeper understanding of the language that likely comes with it being ones native tongue I gues.
Well at least we can now argue on a more common ground I think.
There is only 1 Were Spider in the game, which is Venomina, the giant Spiders are the original beastial race.
Remember the witch had several dozen offsprings but only a single queen was born that posessed awareness of herself and intelligence, she in turn only birthed a single Queen that inherited those traits (Venomina).
The first queen was an intended mutation by a witch, but it still was only 1 of a dozen, we don't know how many normal giant spiders were spawned by that queen, but it's likely that she had given birth to atleast 1 normal broodmother and several giant Spiders, those now roam freely in the Cave in Weirdwood.
This mutation seems to keep going but the rate seems to stay small... maybe if several generations of Were Spiders were to mate with humans or other advanced races the Were beasts could become a sub species of their own... right now it's only a fluke of nature started by that witch.

Not sure wether the Werewolf are cursed humans or a breed of Werebeast itself, but the blood of the Master certainly changed them in a drastic way.
There simply seem to be to many Werewolf for them to simply be cursed humans... unless an enclave of them had put up camp in the abondened castle Thebes, when the master returned.
Them being Werebeasts however would hold potential of the MC captureing a female for the Dungeon in the Tower of Dread and another race for his monstrous army... also Wolfs are great hunters so they could either prevent Venomina and her tribe to starve or gather Carcas for the MC

 

[AravinFlame]

I really like this game but boring to play RPGM or is it just me. Is there any Unofficial Renpy port for this game ?

 

[Evangelion-01]

I really like this game but boring to play RPGM or is it just me. Is there any Unofficial android port for this game ?

pretty sure it was stated before that android does not support RPGM games, in it's latest OS as they are based on a 32 Bit engine

 

[AravinFlame]

pretty sure it was stated before that android does not support RPGM games, in it's latest OS as they are based on a 32 Bit engine

Edited i was meant to ask renpy port

 

[botaniq_1]

i have 0 idea why devs keep adding puzzles in the MAIN QUEST. Why do they keep doing this if i am not interested in puzzles? Why not add it in sub quest for some reward or scene, why do i have to bother with fucking unobvious pillars puzzle? Even with guide i have to spend time to understand how to solve this stupid shit

 

[Evangelion-01]

i have 0 idea why devs keep adding puzzles in the MAIN QUEST. Why do they keep doing this if i am not interested in puzzles? Why not add it in sub quest for some reward or scene, why do i have to bother with fucking unobvious pillars puzzle? Even with guide i have to spend time to understand how to solve this stupid shit

Well to bad for you than... for me I enjoy these puzzles requireing to wreck my brain for a bit... none are unsolvable and once you get a feeling for the game they are all quiet simple even

 

[Rickster82]

Is there an compressed version of 2.11? Couldn't find any so far.

 

[Abhai]

Is there an compressed version of 2.11? Couldn't find any so far.

you dont say
have you checked op, the "compressed" link?

 

[DomWolf]

I can see that these terms seem to be tied to a deeper understanding of the language that likely comes with it being ones native tongue I gues.
Well at least we can now argue on a more common ground I think.
There is only 1 Were Spider in the game, which is Venomina, the giant Spiders are the original beastial race.
Remember the witch had several dozen offsprings but only a single queen was born that posessed awareness of herself and intelligence, she in turn only birthed a single Queen that inherited those traits (Venomina).
The first queen was an intended mutation by a witch, but it still was only 1 of a dozen, we don't know how many normal giant spiders were spawned by that queen, but it's likely that she had given birth to atleast 1 normal broodmother and several giant Spiders, those now roam freely in the Cave in Weirdwood.
This mutation seems to keep going but the rate seems to stay small... maybe if several generations of Were Spiders were to mate with humans or other advanced races the Were beasts could become a sub species of their own... right now it's only a fluke of nature started by that witch.

Not sure wether the Werewolf are cursed humans or a breed of Werebeast itself, but the blood of the Master certainly changed them in a drastic way.
There simply seem to be to many Werewolf for them to simply be cursed humans... unless an enclave of them had put up camp in the abondened castle Thebes, when the master returned.
Them being Werebeasts however would hold potential of the MC captureing a female for the Dungeon in the Tower of Dread and another race for his monstrous army... also Wolfs are great hunters so they could either prevent Venomina and her tribe to starve or gather Carcas for the MC

I assumed that the spider queens were all descendents of Siri but they all forgot how to shapeshift over time. But I'll admit that was speculation on my part.

Now I'm thinking... a were-wolf pet could be kinda hot, mabey. But mabey they would work better on Castke Tepes, so u can have were-wolf minions guard the castle alongside the gargoyles.

 

[DomWolf]

i have 0 idea why devs keep adding puzzles in the MAIN QUEST. Why do they keep doing this if i am not interested in puzzles? Why not add it in sub quest for some reward or scene, why do i have to bother with fucking unobvious pillars puzzle? Even with guide i have to spend time to understand how to solve this stupid shit

Actualy if u look at the puzzles, you'll notice there pretty simple & not that hard at all. I'm dyslexic & discalculic, & I dont have any issues with these puzzles myself.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I assumed that the spider queens were all descendents of Siri but they all forgot how to shapeshift over time. But I'll admit that was speculation on my part.

Now I'm thinking... a were-wolf pet could be kinda hot, mabey. But mabey they would work better on Castke Tepes, so u can have were-wolf minions guard the castle alongside the gargoyles.

They could also be a tribe of themselves in the Goblin Forest or west from the nothern Forest (Mia's home)... that would make the Werewolf that attacked her in that certain Event an outcast maybe... and that Forest has atleast 1 boar roaming in that location.
But I think haveing them in the Tower of Dread would be the most benefitting as they could work similiar to the Awe effect by providing food for the spiders.
Also the Vampires seem to be VERY strongly connected to the "Van Hellsing" lore, which put them on opposing sides... maybe there would be a chance if this was crossed with the "Underworld" lore though (Werewolfs could choose to appear human but were also able to maintain their Beastform dureing the day or on any night) , when Werewolfs had been enslaved by the Vampires (as guards and soldiers) before those started a bloody revolution causing both races downfalls

 

[DomWolf]

They could also be a tribe of themselves in the Goblin Forest or west from the nothern Forest (Mia's home)... that would make the Werewolf that attacked her in that certain Event an outcast maybe... and that Forest has atleast 1 boar roaming in that location.
But I think haveing them in the Tower of Dread would be the most benefitting as they could work similiar to the Awe effect by providing food for the spiders.
Also the Vampires seem to be VERY strongly connected to the "Van Hellsing" lore, which put them on opposing sides... maybe there would be chance if this was crossed with the "Underworld" (Werewolfs could choose to appear human but were also able to maintain their Beastform dureing the day or on any night) lore though, when Werewolfs had been enslaved by the Vampires (as guards and soldiers) before those started a bloody revolution causing both races downfalls

Well Were-Wolves & vampires have always been closely related in myth/folklore. In fact back on the dark ages vampires & were-wolves were often the same thing more or less.

Killed a were-wolf? It will become a vampire. Turned that vampire to ash? The next full moon it will rise again as a were-wolf... pretty messed up shit. No matter how u tried, they just wouldn't die lol.


I assumed that Tink was going with the "once changed, cannot unchange" route with Were-Wolves in his world. Because they can appear in the day as beasts. The way Oksana talks about them I would reckon they are human(oids) cursed by lycanthtopy that, once changed, remain bestial monsters. I'm not sure if they would bulk into packs or not, but could be interesting.


The Plaguewolves are basically enslaved thralls, corrupted by Master's blood & even in Van Helsing, Dracula enslaved were-wolves to be his personal attack dogs, even though he knew its bite would kill him... so I feel like Tink has taken bits & pieces from all over the place when it comes to vampiric lore. I mean there is so much to choose from lol.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Well Were-Wolves & vampires have always been closely related in myth/folklore. In fact back on the dark ages vampires & were-wolves were often the same thing more or less.

Killed a were-wolf? It will become a vampire. Turned that vampire to ash? The next full moon it will rise again as a were-wolf... pretty messed up shit. No matter how u tried, they just wouldn't die lol.


I assumed that Tink was going with the "once changed, cannot unchange" route with Were-Wolves in his world. Because they can appear in the day as beasts. The way Oksana talks about them I would reckon they are human(oids) cursed by lycanthtopy that, once changed, remain bestial monsters. I'm not sure if they would bulk into packs or not, but could be interesting.


The Plaguewolves are basically enslaved thralls, corrupted by Master's blood & even in Van Helsing, Dracula enslaved were-wolves to be his personal attack dogs, even though he knew its bite would kill him... so I feel like Tink has taken bits & pieces from all over the place when it comes to vampiric lore. I mean there is so much to choose from lol.

Yeah but now that the Master is dead there seems noone around with strong enough blood magic to enslave the wolfes... and their hatred for Vampires will likely prevent them from serving them in any case.
Personally I wouldn't feel to good to take advantge of a brainwashed/mind broken girl in anyway... useing magic to subtly influence her is a greyzone I am willing to walk though
We are already hard at work building a Werearmy for Erevy... maybe this will be her next quest... learning about the increased numbers of Werewolf sightings she'll task us with researching them and finding a way to recruit them for her cause... defeating an Alpha and takeing his Bitch as a Pet could work for that

 

[botaniq_1]

Actualy if u look at the puzzles, you'll notice there pretty simple & not that hard at all. I'm dyslexic & discalculic, & I dont have any issues with these puzzles myself.

i had an issue with pillars puzzle bc lightning was off to prevent critical errors every time i enter village, that was the problem

 

[Evangelion-01]

i had an issue with pillars puzzle bc lightning was off to prevent critical errors every time i enter village, that was the problem

Are you talking about the pillars in the Ancient temple dureing the Waystone II Quest?
Because in that case disabling lightning effects should make this one even easier as you can clearly differ the hues and collors of the rooms tiles

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Banging a bipedal werewolf waifu would be nice but i'll also take a bipedal scalie waifu.~ I'm aware of the dragon but some sort of lizard or kobold would be a nice touch.

 

[DomWolf]

i had an issue with pillars puzzle bc lightning was off to prevent critical errors every time i enter village, that was the problem

Turning off the lighting should have made the puzzle easier? U can clearly see the room colours to compare to the pillars...

Or do u mean the moon pillars in the Cematery?

 

[DomWolf]

Yeah but now that the Master is dead there seems noone around with strong enough blood magic to enslave the wolfes... and their hatred for Vampires will likely prevent them from serving them in any case.
Personally I wouldn't feel to good to take advantge of a brainwashed/mind broken girl in anyway... useing magic to subtly influence her is a greyzone I am willing to walk though
We are already hard at work building a Werearmy for Erevy... maybe this will be her next quest... learning about the increased numbers of Werewolf sightings she'll task us with researching them and finding a way to recruit them for her cause... defeating an Alpha and takeing his Bitch as a Pet could work for that

Perhaps u r right. Keep her as our pet bitch lol take her walkies, play fetch, put pups in her lol. But apart from werewolves what could she give as an ingredient? So far the pets (BatBreeder & Venomina) have given us an ingredient to use later...

Venomina has the bonus of creating giant Spiders, but her main purpose is providing spider eggs. Bat Breeder ONLY provides crystalised eggs.

(btw I dont think it's a were-army as much a monster army because she said only the queens are born with shapeshifting powers & if they act like most colony arthropods, another queen will only be born if Venomina dies)

Unless the were-bitch is entirely about the production of loyal were-pups but then where would they be kept if she can birth multiple litters? Again that's is another perk of pets they can repeatedly give birth.

Unless they act like the Gargoyles or Goblins? They find a place to prowl around in/or around the Tower with a max amount that can be shown on screen?


Cool idea tho. I like it

 

[DomWolf]

I wonder if the Temple update with put any prep for adding more forces to the Qeteshian side of the war? So far Nergak has Qetesh a little outmatched...

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What I'm hoping is that Oksana has a chance to return & join the Temple. I would like to see Vixenatrux make a deal with the Temple to help defend it should the need arise (if for no other reason then to keep the gemstone safe).

That should even the odds a bit just cos I feel like Erevi will get more monsters & demons before the game is done. I could see the Goblins & Vampires siding with Nergal because the goblins are all servants of Nergal & then Temple made enemies with the Vampires 200 years ago...