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Tiur

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I just mentioned a few minor problems, which this is a part of. I gave the h-game 4 stars because I judged it mostly based on the "h" part. If I judged it like a regular game or novel I would have given more weight to story, world building and character development and end up giving it 2 or 3 stars.
Instead, you're the one trying to convince me that this part of the harem porn game makes sense and is realistic, while I only gave minor consideration to that when judging the game.
People are just taking issue with that one part of your first post here, which was incorrect. You've also completely failed to acknowledge that you were wrong in your initial post, and you've been moving the goalposts instead.

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First of all, the world doesn't make much sense to me, I mean, when women are the only ones capable of using magic, you'd expect the society to become much more matriarchal then what is shown so far.
I pointed out how matriarchal it is, and you tried to blow me off by saying that of course we'd only encounter women because it doesn't have the gay tag. When I pointed out all the mentioned men vs. all the mentioned women, you lied about me repeating myself.

You then started bringing up extra things you hadn't mentioned in your post, and you are the only one pushing the realism angle, and now you're lying about what I'm saying.

I'm done with your intellectual dishonesty.
 
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People are just taking issue with that one part of your first post here, which was incorrect. You've also completely failed to acknowledge that you were wrong in your initial post, and you've been moving the goalposts instead.

You said:

I pointed out how matriarchal it is, and you tried to blow me off by saying that of course we'd only encounter women because it doesn't have the gay tag. When I pointed out all the mentioned men vs. all the mentioned women, you lied about me repeating myself.

You then started bringing up extra things you hadn't mentioned in your post, and you are the only one pushing the realism angle, and now you're lying about what I'm saying.

I'm done with your intellectual dishonesty.
What kind of nonsense are you spouting? I clearly said that I didn't feel it was a matriarchal world based of the attitude towards men, not the amount of woman you meet. I mentioned meeting a lot of woman in h-games because that's the purpose of those games, it would be idiotic for anyone to glean any kind of meaning from how many woman you meet in an h-game.
I haven't acknowledged I was wrong, because I don't believe I am. What kind of argument is saying that I'm wrong, simply because I don't agree with you?
I also didn't lie about you repeating yourself. You may not have used the same words, but you essentially came back to talking about how few influential men appeared in the game, which I already refused to acknowledge as a valid argument, because its a non-gay h-game and meeting woman is the point. If you think otherwise then it's you that is trying to find to much realism in an h-game.
And bringing new points to argue your point of view is the very definition of a discussion like this.
Why don't you find some new points of your own, instead of trying and failing to insult me.
 
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You may not have used the same words, but you essentially came back to talking about how few influential men appeared in the game, which I already refused to acknowledge as a valid argument, because its a non-gay h-game and meeting woman is the point.
You're invalidating the strongest argument for everything for literally no reason. I genuinely don't understand what you expect to see. Do you expect to see other men getting dominated everywhere you look? Is the fact that men are hardly seen and most women can handle themselves very well not enough of a signifier that men in the society aren't a pivotal role in the extremely large population sample size this game throws at you. Is it too hard to rationalize that in a fictional world, women would not be impervious to the literal embodiment of lust with magic that more often than not, supersedes the existing powers not only due to the raw strength but also the otherwordly powers working entirely differently than the rest of the peoples' magic? The other men are treated just about as expected with the MC being the only outlier for very obvious in game reasons regardless of the whole porn game context.

The lore can be goofy and ham-fisted but as far as I remember, the game never screws with a player's ability to suspend their disbelief as everything works within it's own developed system. If you can't trust or believe everything the game explicitly tells and shows you then that's your own fault especially when you're not highlighting any inconsistencies and just stating an unfounded opinion as if it's a fundamental flaw. I have plenty of my own criticisms for the game but weirdly enough, the lore is definitely not one of them as everything makes sense within the appropriate context which you are explicitly disregarding. Meeting women is the point which is exactly why the world is built in such a way to facilitate the game's plot and disregarding that in it's entirety is extremely disingenuous and in no way constructive.

If we decide to just ignore all that though, you're basing your opinions on the broadest worst of Earth and not at all on people's individuality and desires which the game happens to be built around exploiting for sex and power and even then it's hard to try and do that when the world is so far removed from any semblance of Earth. Obviously you're going to find problems when you're looking at it through the wrong lens. You said "the fact is, that human nature is ugly" and that's such a broad statement based on your own prejudice that you're projecting on a porn game where most character's aren't even human to begin with. I appreciate your review though, I think that was genuinely honest and context relevant even if I don't see why the lore didn't make sense to you it's perfectly fine for that to be the case and I wish more people were honest about the context and lens through which they review games on this site. I believe it's fine if the lore just doesn't make sense and purely works to facilitate another of the game's purpose whether its the gameplay or visuals or porn as is usually they point of games on here. The post after the perfectly fine review that blatantly disregard explanations and doubling down are genuinely bizarre though and I'd call that intellectual dishonesty, as Tiur so eloquently stated.
 
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You're invalidating the strongest argument for everything for literally no reason. I genuinely don't understand what you expect to see. Do you expect to see other men getting dominated everywhere you look? Is the fact that men are hardly seen and most women can handle themselves very well not enough of a signifier that men in the society aren't a pivotal role in the extremely large population sample size this game throws at you. Is it too hard to rationalize that in a fictional world, women would not be impervious to the literal embodiment of lust with magic that more often than not, supersedes the existing powers not only due to the raw strength but also the otherwordly powers working entirely differently than the rest of the peoples' magic? The other men are treated just about as expected with the MC being the only outlier for very obvious in game reasons regardless of the whole porn game context.

The lore can be goofy and ham-fisted but as far as I remember, the game never screws with a player's ability to suspend their disbelief as everything works within it's own developed system. If you can't trust or believe everything the game explicitly tells and shows you then that's your own fault especially when you're not highlighting any inconsistencies and just stating an unfounded opinion as if it's a fundamental flaw. I have plenty of my own criticisms for the game but weirdly enough, the lore is definitely not one of them as everything makes sense within the appropriate context which you are explicitly disregarding. Meeting women is the point which is exactly why the world is built in such a way to facilitate the game's plot and disregarding that in it's entirety is extremely disingenuous and in no way constructive.

If we decide to just ignore all that though, you're basing your opinions on the broadest worst of Earth and not at all on people's individuality and desires which the game happens to be built around exploiting for sex and power and even then it's hard to try and do that when the world is so far removed from any semblance of Earth. Obviously you're going to find problems when you're looking at it through the wrong lens. You said "the fact is, that human nature is ugly" and that's such a broad statement based on your own prejudice that you're projecting on a porn game where most character's aren't even human to begin with. I appreciate your review though, I think that was genuinely honest and context relevant even if I don't see why the lore didn't make sense to you it's perfectly fine for that to be the case and I wish more people were honest about the context and lens through which they review games on this site. I believe it's fine if the lore just doesn't make sense and purely works to facilitate another of the game's purpose whether its the gameplay or visuals or porn as is usually they point of games on here. The post after the perfectly fine review that blatantly disregard explanations and doubling down are genuinely bizarre though and I'd call that intellectual dishonesty, as Tiur so eloquently stated.
Dude, your post is way to long, I didn't even read it, I don't care anymore. Why does it even matter? I still like the game for what it is, I gave it a 4 star review before this entire discussion started. It just doesn't feel to me like the matriarchal society I think it should be. It seems people don't agree. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree and move on with our lives while we all enjoy the game.
 
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how i do something beside give tips to the bar girl "classy"
all the other girls are complete including the other side girls like the library and the cloth shopping
 

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Does anyone know what the my girls' memories section is for in the dreams option in your room and what to do with it?
 
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Master of Puppets

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Does anyone know what the my girls' memories section is for in the dreams option in your room and what to do with it?
Once you get far enough through the game, a couple of the girls will tell you about things that happened when you weren't around, that menu is for you to be able to see what happened.
 

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Could someone share save at the end of last update? I change my PC I don't want to grind from the beginning
 

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There is still the time-bug in the inn...if you look around in he morning you can "wait" with the bunny or go, but if you go it will still be afternoon.
 
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