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VN Ren'Py Penlight [v0.1614.1] [Angela DeMille]

3.10 star(s) 13 Votes

Edvin

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Wow...
This game is really bad.
How can anyone destroy such a great plot with a mesmerizing pen by using moralism?

I played the game pretty carefully and reached about 6 different endings.
All are the same in their own way and they say 3 things:

Hypnotizing people is wrong.
I should never have done that.
It ruined my relationship.


I hate that sort of thing (n)
Who would want to play a game about hypnotizing people that punishes you for hypnotizing people?
 
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gtz-god

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Wow...
This game is really bad.
How can anyone destroy such a great plot with a mesmerizing pen by using moralism?

I played the game pretty carefully and reached about 6 different endings.
All are the same in their own way and they say 3 things:

Hypnotizing people is wrong.
I should never have done that.
It ruined my relationship.


I hate that sort of thing (n)
Who would want to play a game about hypnotizing people that punishes you for hypnotizing people?
well ver is 0.1527 that still under 1 so it like far from being done him likely make the bad ending first to see what people want in the future
 

Sonico

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I'm so glad it's just a pen. When I first viewed the thumbnail of the title image I thought that someone was holding a glinting knife behind their back.

So far, Hypnosis - 1, School Days - 0!
First thought was knife, second was "dildo?!", then brain started to work and i remembered what a penlight is supposed to be.
 

KingWeWuz

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Edvin I can understand why you didn't like the endings, however I'd like to make two points.

-There is nudity. There's not much, but it's definitely there. In the robotization route there's a nude pic of each girl, for example.
-The game was not originally tagged no sexual content so I know if you dld it back then it would be fair complaint, but it's tagged now no sexual content, so it's unfair to give the game too much flak for it.
 

negative1

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Wow...
This game is really bad.
How can anyone destroy such a great plot with a mesmerizing pen by using moralism?

I played the game pretty carefully and reached about 6 different endings.
All are the same in their own way and they say 3 things:

Hypnotizing people is wrong.
I should never have done that.
It ruined my relationship.


I hate that sort of thing (n)
Who would want to play a game about hypnotizing people that punishes you for hypnotizing people?
Yeah I was hoping for more from the game and the dev went FURTHER down the "it is all bad how dare you play this" route instead. *Sigh* another game that I should have loved on my ignore list...
 
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MoolaMoona1

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I'm gonna be "that guy" and say that none of your are getting the point. Just because it's on this site doesn't mean it needs to be porn for the sake of porn. The writer is trying to make a "reap what you sow" story here, and personally, I think it's competent.
 
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fulcrum

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I'm gonna be "that guy" and say that none of your are getting the point. Just because it's on this site doesn't mean it needs to be porn for the sake of porn. The writer is trying to make a "reap what you sow" story here, and personally, I think it's competent.
maybe. but many mind control games today are either shovel ware trying to make a cheap buck from desperate people with low quality junk and depressing them even more, or some bullshit forced genderchange sissyfication submissive bullshit. i dont care about the sissy side, at all. then comes this gem around and blueballs mindcontrol fans with a fucking cinderblock to the nutsack.
 
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Edvin

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Edvin
-The game was not originally tagged no sexual content so I know if you dld it back then it would be fair complaint, but it's tagged now no sexual content, so it's unfair to give the game too much flak for it.
The fact that there is no such thing does not mean that the game would not be better if it contained some sexual content.
For Christ's sake, there's a man who has power to hypnotize women, command them and reshape their personality.
He could make his own harem and live like a king...
Yet he is a pathetic spineless weakling who doesn't even know what he wants.

The writer is trying to make a "reap what you sow" story here, and personally, I think it's competent.
In that case, we should be allowed sow something meaningful.
Right now, we only plant glass that cuts us as we try in vain to look for the results of our work in the dust.
I don't mind bad ends if they are balanced by good ones. I saw at least 6 different ends and neither was good.
What's the point of a brainwashing game when every time we try it, it leads to a bad end?

The game is a big disappointment because it's an incredibly wasted opportunity.
 

KingWeWuz

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The fact that there is no such thing does not mean that the game would not be better if it contained some sexual content.
For Christ's sake, there's a man who has power to hypnotize women, command them and reshape their personality.
He could make his own harem and live like a king...
Yet he is a pathetic spineless weakling who doesn't even know what he wants.
That was my biggest complaint, the characters don't know what they want and I felt the game did not reach its full potential without sexual content. Instead of being a sexual game it comes off as an erotic experience more than anything. However, I would still argue it's a little unfair to the game.

For example: if you play an ntr tagged game and then complain there's ntr in it, isn't that unfair to the dev? In my review I gave it a high score because even if the story, characters, and lack of sexual content frustrated me, I did find the overall experience to be very high quality. And I reviewed it before it had the nsc tag.

The biggest writing issue I'd take with the game was how in the trust routes the narration and girls all felt the mc was unfair to them for doing what they had consented to. As another review pointed out, he's young and doesn't know any better. It's not his responsibility to know, but the story ignores his perspective in favor of the girls and the mc admits fault even when he's done nothing wrong.
 

MoolaMoona1

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maybe. but many mind control games today are either shovel ware trying to make a cheap buck from desperate people with low quality junk and depressing them even more, or some bullshit forced genderchange sissyfication submissive bullshit. i dont care about the mind controled side, at all. then comes this gem around and blueballs mindcontrol fans with a fucking cinderblock to the nutsack.
Too bad, so sad, things don't have to pander to you?
In that case, we should be allowed sow something meaningful.
Right now, we only plant glass that cuts us as we try in vain to look for the results of our work in the dust.
I don't mind bad ends if they are balanced by good ones. I saw at least 6 different ends and neither was good.
What's the point of a brainwashing game when every time we try it, it leads to a bad end?

The game is a big disappointment because it's an incredibly wasted opportunity.
Completely fair. I'd like to chalk that up to it being an incomplete game, but it's not like I haven't been wrong or disappointed before.
 

fulcrum

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Too bad, so sad, things don't have to pander to you?
thats not what i've been saying. I dont want to be pandered to, i just want to have anything at all I can enjoy, how can that be pandering? I dont downrate this game, I even enjoyed it, but my impression lowered once I learned its never to have any content I'm here for. Yes, there's heaps and heaps of interactive mind control stories, but most if not all that tick yes and dont have any of my absolute no checkboxes ticked are either abandoned or broken. And the rest... well, im not a submissive and i dont enjoy getting tortured. gendergange is questionable. forced right out of the window. despair is too bitter for me already. theres this story i tried to start to read several times over, but the author gets so off on describing the feelings of the character as he's constantly lead to forget and relearn what his family is going through, I gave up.
 
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Edvin

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That was my biggest complaint, the characters don't know what they want and I felt the game did not reach its full potential without sexual content. Instead of being a sexual game it comes off as an erotic experience more than anything. However, I would still argue it's a little unfair to the game.
I think the appropriate comparison is Mass Effect 3.
Although it wasn't as good as ME2, it was still a pretty good game.
But then I saw the endings...

I felt that my decision did not matter at all and no matter what I choose, it always ends badly.
Something like this can completely ruin the game experience.
It may be a masterpiece, but if the ending is not satisfactory enough, it will be quickly forgotten.

Imagine Sleeping Beauty where at the end the prince says: "Fuck it, there's too much work with that woman and she wasn't even THAT hot. I'm going back home." And so the princess slept in the castle until she died of a lack of nutrients...

Not exactly a satisfying ending, don't you think? ;)
 
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Edvin

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I do agree the endings were often unsatisfying. Though I'll say it might just be our subjective tastes on the game.
Of course!

Every opinion and every review is always only subjective.
If you have not been given the right to speak for others, then everything will always be only subjective.

Anyway, brainwashing/mind control fans are used to a certain standard and games and comics are created according to this standard. Although it was boldly from the author that she tried a very original concept, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a step in the right direction.
 

MoolaMoona1

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thats not what i've been saying. I dont want to be pandered to, i just want to have anything at all I can enjoy, how can that be pandering? I dont downrate this game, I even enjoyed it, but my impression lowered once I learned its never to have any content I'm here for. Yes, there's heaps and heaps of interactive mind control stories, but most if not all that tick yes and dont have any of my absolute no checkboxes ticked are either abandoned or broken. And the rest... well, im not a submissive and i dont enjoy getting tortured. gendergange is questionable. forced right out of the window. despair is too bitter for me already. theres this story i tried to start to read several times over, but the author gets so off on describing the feelings of the character as he's constantly lead to forget and relearn what his family is going through, I gave up.
I haven't the faintest clue what you're on about, sorry mate. Good luck finding a game you like, I guess.
 
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FollowBobb

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Probably worth including a link to the offical walkthrough's in the OP
The all versions are pinned as an image on this public patron post... warning NOT spoiler free.
 

mizzet

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I really don't think the criticism of the game is fair. While I personally also prefer more immoral mind control and did not particularly enjoy the 'bad' endings, this really isn't a quality issue.

Noizumi's path has several fun hypnosis scenarios. The game just empathizes consensual hypnosis as being good, over playing as an evil mind controller. With the later deliberately resulting in dissatisfaction for the protagonist in the end (While I still very much enjoyed the mind control leading up to that point)

I also see little problem with the characters not outright having sex. There is definitely enough erotic content and bend to the hypnosis for it to fit here. You don't need characters fucking for something to be hot.


The game is fairly high quality, in my opinion. It is well made, and many of the scenarios are fun. It is trying to be more then just completely unreflective smut - which can be good or bad dependent on what you are looking for. It's incomplete status also doesn't do it any favours - it has too much fun with it with Noizumi for me not to expect a good ending that involves more mind control, but that doesn't mean that the 'bad' endings aren't definitely outnumbering those. But to me that doesn't make it not well made overall.
 

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It's feel like game where newer ever something happens except endless bubbling.
 

KingWeWuz

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I really don't think the criticism of the game is fair. While I personally also prefer more immoral mind control and did not particularly enjoy the 'bad' endings, this really isn't a quality issue.

Noizumi's path has several fun hypnosis scenarios. The game just empathizes consensual hypnosis as being good, over playing as an evil mind controller. With the later deliberately resulting in dissatisfaction for the protagonist in the end (While I still very much enjoyed the mind control leading up to that point)

I also see little problem with the characters not outright having sex. There is definitely enough erotic content and bend to the hypnosis for it to fit here. You don't need characters fucking for something to be hot.
I didn't really get too upset at the bad ends, only that they were slaps in the face if you like the evil mode of hypnosis. Many of them were "fitting" I guess, but not really that enjoyable or satisfying.

Nozomi's route seemed, as I recall, to mock the main character as bad even when he respects her boundaries. Which, by the way, is extremely unfair to the mc. Sayori's handled this much worse, where even when she consented to everything that happened, she aggressively bullies you at a personal level. I don't mind if the author is going for a "bully girls and feel bad" feel but don't try to make me feel like shit when I do nothing wrong.

The characters *do* have sex, but the story is just focused on the build up. The author even mentions in an unfinished route how some sex scenes are cut by fade to black.
 
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