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Yeaaa. There was an issue last month with the "hero" posting the update on the same day of release for supporters. I guess this is a pirate site with honor! So they removed the comment almost immediately.
Yes, but, I don't think, a pirate commits actions to the detriment of the devs who ask for a few weeks of margin for the public update and which they don't oppose,Yeaaa. There was an issue last month with the "hero" posting the update on the same day of release for supporters. I guess this is a pirate site with honor! So they removed the comment almost immediately.
A pirate is a pirate. You're still gonna download without/with supporting the Dev either way. The vast majority come to a pirate site to pirate, not to show respect.Yes, but, I don't think, a pirate commits actions to the detriment of the devs who ask for a few weeks of margin for the public update and which they don't oppose,
it's just a matter of respect for the work they do for everyone's enjoyment .
Don't confuse pirates with lamers.
Yes, by definition they act to the detriment of someone for a personal economic advantage or for a noble purpose which is to disseminate knowledge and entertainment to those who do not have the money to access , but if they cause damage without any personal advantage and only for the pleasure of doing it or free malice, the definition changes to lamer.A pirate is a pirate. You're still gonna download without/with supporting the Dev either way. The vast majority come to a pirate site to pirate, not to show respect.
I like this game and think the dev is more than deserving of his money for his product and consistency. I'm just pointing out the irony of asking pirates to behave themselves.
I agree. But getting what they desire IS the personal advantage. sites like this one wouldn't exist if there was no gain to be had on a personal level by the pirate.Yes, by definition they act to the detriment of someone for a personal economic advantage, but if they cause damage without any personal advantage and only for the pleasure of doing it or free malice, the definition changes to lamer.
Same. I've downloaded a few games from this site then still purchased it on Steam to support the dev and show appriecation for a well made product. I'm not subbing to patreon for $10 a month, for a small amount of content though. The finished product , if it actually ever comes out will be between $10-$20 going by Steam average prices on VNs and that's without any sales being attached. So I think charging someone $10 for an update to a game is asking a lot.Personally I hate the Patreon method of game development. It causes developers to milk their patreons for years instead of completing a game in a timely matter. I have no problem with people getting paid for their work but making thousands of dollars a month for a visual novel is freaking ridiculous! Most AAA titles don't even bring in that kind of money! I'm working on my first game and I don't think I will ever use Patreon. I think I will just release it here and maybe have the option for people to "buy me a coffee" if they want to support. If I was rich enough I would be pirating every popular game the day the updates are released. Also for those that will probably attack me. I have supported several developers both financially on patreon and by offering proofreading/testing services. But it takes an exceptional developer for me to be willing to support them financially and then I'm not giving them more than what I would pay for a professionally released AAA game. Lots of people have way more money than they have sense.
consider it in terms of the fact that everyone adds up to the developer's salary, and not buy the game one-timePersonally I hate the Patreon method of game development. It causes developers to milk their patreons for years instead of completing a game in a timely matter. I have no problem with people getting paid for their work but making thousands of dollars a month for a visual novel is freaking ridiculous! Most AAA titles don't even bring in that kind of money! I'm working on my first game and I don't think I will ever use Patreon. I think I will just release it here and maybe have the option for people to "buy me a coffee" if they want to support. If I was rich enough I would be pirating every popular game the day the updates are released. Also for those that will probably attack me. I have supported several developers both financially on patreon and by offering proofreading/testing services. But it takes an exceptional developer for me to be willing to support them financially and then I'm not giving them more than what I would pay for a professionally released AAA game. Lots of people have way more money than they have sense.
I still Remember when i follow Summer time sega update from last year, it milk around 28 K $/month, now i see it is 58 K $/month. i know people doing hard work and should be appreciated but from my perspective it is just for buy an updated. really hope dev can put it on steam for sale as finish game.Personally I hate the Patreon method of game development. It causes developers to milk their patreons for years instead of completing a game in a timely matter. I have no problem with people getting paid for their work but making thousands of dollars a month for a visual novel is freaking ridiculous! Most AAA titles don't even bring in that kind of money! I'm working on my first game and I don't think I will ever use Patreon. I think I will just release it here and maybe have the option for people to "buy me a coffee" if they want to support. If I was rich enough I would be pirating every popular game the day the updates are released. Also for those that will probably attack me. I have supported several developers both financially on patreon and by offering proofreading/testing services. But it takes an exceptional developer for me to be willing to support them financially and then I'm not giving them more than what I would pay for a professionally released AAA game. Lots of people have way more money than they have sense.
Yeeeeessssss very goooood. Embrace the NTRLatest update, seems more and more that the housewife is doing what she wants and Oliver is becoming more more a cuck, instead of this about them both playing. She's constantly getting her rocks off and he jacks off while watching, or just watches with an erection. Then there's the ending... oh boy...
Positive note: There's content for both the routes. So if you chose the dinner party, there's stuff. If you chose to see the grandkids there's stuff.
excellent news. hated how involved the husband was getting in the action with the anal 3some updateLatest update, seems more and more that the housewife is doing what she wants and Oliver is becoming more of a cuck, instead of this being about them both playing. She's constantly getting her rocks off and he jacks off while watching, or just watches with an erection. Then there's the ending... oh boy...
Positive note: There's content for both the routes. So if you chose the dinner party, there's stuff. If you chose to see the grandkids there's stuff.
You'd prefer Arnold take over as the main focus of Stef's affection or would you rather see her passed around to others?excellent news. hated how involved the husband was getting in the action with the anal 3some update
how big is the update and please try not to spoil to usLatest update, seems more and more that the housewife is doing what she wants and Oliver is becoming more of a cuck, instead of this being about them both playing. She's constantly getting her rocks off and he jacks off while watching, or just watches with an erection. Then there's the ending... oh boy...
Positive note: There's content for both the routes. So if you chose the dinner party, there's stuff. If you chose to see the grandkids there's stuff.
On this I agree, it is a market without rules in which profiteers roam mostly in search of easy profits and as long as demand remains unchanged or the rules are not changed, nothing will change.Personally I hate the Patreon method of game development. It causes developers to milk their patreons for years instead of completing a game in a timely matter. I have no problem with people getting paid for their work but making thousands of dollars a month for a visual novel is freaking ridiculous! Most AAA titles don't even bring in that kind of money! I'm working on my first game and I don't think I will ever use Patreon. I think I will just release it here and maybe have the option for people to "buy me a coffee" if they want to support. If I was rich enough I would be pirating every popular game the day the updates are released. Also for those that will probably attack me. I have supported several developers both financially on patreon and by offering proofreading/testing services. But it takes an exceptional developer for me to be willing to support them financially and then I'm not giving them more than what I would pay for a professionally released AAA game. Lots of people have way more money than they have sense.
1000 Lines of dialogue. 20 animations and 150 CGs.how big is the update and please try not to spoil to us
If the demand followed this trend, for sure, something would change. Unfortunately your rationality is part of a minority.Same. I've downloaded a few games from this site then still purchased it on Steam to support the dev and show appriecation for a well made product. I'm not subbing to patreon for $10 a month, for a small amount of content though. The finished product , if it actually ever comes out will be between $10-$20 going by Steam average prices on VNs and that's without any sales being attached. So I think charging someone $10 for an update to a game is asking a lot.
I'll definitely buy this game on release though!