TheDuke9999

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She's had sex with Erik without Oliver being there. She just told him about it the next day while they had sex. I was thinking more along the lines of that, and not just Stefany running around jumping on penises just because Oliver isn't there to stop her.
im sort of confused .. since this VN has been conceived it has had a netorare tag on it yet all it is really is swinging . there has been no ntr or cuckolding of any kind in it and when it was introduced stephany quickly dismissed it while mario was having his way with her.. my question is when is netorare/cuckolding going to be introduced since the VN has the tag netorare on it from beginning?
 

TheDuke9999

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It has an NTR tag because there is no NTS or sharing tag. Dev has said from the beginning this is a sharing game.
there a swinging tag i believe which would suit this VN perfectly .. no need to use netorare tag to misrepresent VN trying to get more subs ..
 

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im sort of confused .. since this VN has been conceived it has had a netorare tag on it yet all it is really is swinging . there has been no ntr or cuckolding of any kind in it and when it was introduced stephany quickly dismissed it while mario was having his way with her.. my question is when is netorare/cuckolding going to be introduced since the VN has the tag netorare on it from beginning?
there a swinging tag i believe which would suit this VN perfectly .. no need to use netorare tag to misrepresent VN trying to get more subs ..
exactly so why the netorare tag on here?
This was addressed on page 205, comment #4099.

Also wanted to laugh at the idea that adding NTR tag INCREASES your potential sub prospects. No. If anything it lowers it.
The most popular titles are vanilla Incest, and vanilla harem. Adding an NTR tag to those games would kill their subs.
If the goal was to misrepresent in order to farm subs it would be smarter to integrate Gigan's incest mode into the actual game and leave Patreon, not adding a tag known to hurt your sub count, and lock you into a niche.
 

TheDuke9999

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This was addressed on page 205, comment #4099.

Also wanted to laugh at the idea that adding NTR tag INCREASES your potential sub prospects. No. If anything it lowers it.
The most popular titles are vanilla Incest, and vanilla harem. Adding an NTR tag to those games would kill their subs.
If the goal was to misrepresent in order to farm subs it would be smarter to integrate Gigan's incest mode into the actual game and leave Patreon, not adding a tag known to hurt your sub count, and lock you into a niche.
i was just curious because i would love if this VN took a netorase/cuck turn to it.. i know it most likely wont but i think it would open up a whole new vibe to the VN that would be fun
 

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i was just curious because i would love if this VN took a netorase/cuck turn to it.. i know it most likely wont but i think it would open up a whole new vibe to the VN that would be fun
The game is already an Netorase based VN at its core by pretty much every searchable definition of the word aside from individual, personal definitions.
It's just willful cuckholdry. It CAN focus on the negative emotional effects of this (Indecent Wife Hana), but mostly steers clear of those negative effects. (Vulgar Reverie, Moonripple Lake)

Maybe you could share what you think Netorase means so that it can be properly addressed.
 
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TheDuke9999

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The game is already an Netorase based VN at its core by pretty much every searchable definition of the word aside from individual, personal definitions.
It's just willful cuckholdry. It CAN focus on the negative emotional effects of this (Indecent Wife Hana), but mostly steers clear of those negative effects. (Vulgar Reverie, Moonripple Lake)

Maybe you could share what you think Netorase means so that it can be properly addressed.
actually the last episode touched on it perfectly with the photo shoot as he was describing how things were in the beginning when they started this journey.. the unknown and how it made him feel. i like that what will she do next vibe as opposed to the cheerleader and pom pom husband that just cheers her on while she gets wrecked .. bring emotion back into the VN . one of the best scenes in this VN was the beginning when his dad was banging her and he was watching thru keyhole wondering is she really doing it .. that feeling .. even she said they didnt do itbut we all know they were banging lol .. but he realized thru the fear he liked it .. now its more like rinse wash repeat .. i mean stephany is hot but she never challenges him in dialogue's when with other men.. like the scene with banker was great cause there was part of her not worrying and enjoying it on her own so to speak even whispering so hubby dont hear .. people believe if she cucks him to his face while banging another guy talking to him he wont like it and its hurtful but what if he does like it and wants more? .. wouldnt that still be sharing ? doesnt mean she doesnt love him .. it means she is doing what he enjoys which was the premise from the start correct?
 

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The game is already an Netorase based VN at its core by pretty much every searchable definition of the word aside from individual, personal definitions.
It's just willful cuckholdry. It CAN focus on the negative emotional effects of this (Indecent Wife Hana), but mostly steers clear of those negative effects. (Vulgar Reverie, Moonripple Lake)

Maybe you could share what you think Netorase means so that it can be properly addressed.
Exactly, though I hate the word 'cuck', it implies humiliation, which I'm not a fan of.
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INteresting conversation. It touches upon a few things. First, the fact that this site needs better tags other than NTR. I do think this game is more of a swinging game than any other tag. They both have their enjoyment with other people and don't have a problem sharing. Second, you have the game and it's progression. I liked how ksoft dropped one aspect from the first release in that Oliver couldn't please his wife so she had to sneak off to the bathroom to get herself off. I'm glad they changed it because I was worried this game would become what so many NTR games become....The MC losing his wife to the bull with the giant cock. Not that it's not a good storyline but it's been so overdone its practically a cliche of these types of games. Instead they went down the smart path of sharing and the husband enjoying his wife's fun while at the same time still being her favorite lover. It's made the story more fun to play. Not that it hasn't had (in my opinion) it's mistakes. I didn't enjoy the update with Stephany and the two guys at the beach and later the two guys at the nightclub. It seemed cruel to do that which is one thing the game hadn't done to that point. She's teased people before, but to blueball both sets of guys seemed out of the realm of the game.
Here is what I would like to see ksoft do. I think it would be interesting for him to create a poll on his patreon asking people what their favorite scene was so far. For me it was the scene with the banker. It was different but still hot. Stephany getting off with him even though she was just their to distract him was a good choice and opened up possibilities. But anyway, that's just my opinion. Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong, just makes it mine.
 

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To be honest, I don't like games with NTR, but the author managed to make it so fun and beautiful that it's impossible to deny yourself the pleasure of watching each new update. And the image with red hair is just fire! It seems to me, but this is only my opinion, I don't want to offend anyone, at this level Steph lacks piercings and tattoos. I'm not the main patron, and I can't demand anything from the author, but damn, I really want to see Steph with the most depraved tattoos. Piercing is a separate topic, I myself am trying to make my character, but so far it turns out so disgusting that it's not even worth talking about. Well, we all have a wild fantasy and describing everything probably does not make sense. I'll just say that I'm looking forward to the next update, I hope the author will please us before the New Year, health, good luck and happiness to everyone.

P.S. English is my native language, so forgive translation errors.
 
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TheDuke9999

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To be honest, I don't like games with NTR, but the author managed to make it so fun and beautiful that it's impossible to deny yourself the pleasure of watching each new update. And the image with red hair is just fire! It seems to me, but this is only my opinion, I don't want to offend anyone, at this level Steph lacks piercings and tattoos. I'm not the main patron, and I can't demand anything from the author, but damn, I really want to see Steph with the most depraved tattoos. Piercing is a separate topic, I myself am trying to make my character, but so far it turns out so disgusting that it's not even worth talking about. Well, we all have a wild fantasy and describing everything probably does not make sense. I'll just say that I'm looking forward to the next update, I hope the author will please us before the New Year, health, good luck and happiness to everyone.

P.S. English is my native language, so forgive translation errors.
yes next update hopefully will be good also
 
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Pedro Castro

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Hello friends, how are you? Does anyone have any saves after this scene? Because right after this scene my game crashes and closes. And I can no longer see the rest of the game's contents! If anyone can help me? I appreciate it.
 

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True and it was so-so. I just prefer having MC there, so he can potentially join or can watch somehow. Again, just my personal preference. ;)
Even the new Stefany/Emma scene was bugging me until I realized she knew he was right outside. :)
IMO I think all the scenes with Stefany and the MC are so much better when they are in contact together. It's like the fundamental concept of this game day 1.
 

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Hello friends, how are you? Does anyone have any saves after this scene? Because right after this scene my game crashes and closes. And I can no longer see the rest of the game's contents! If anyone can help me? I appreciate it.
do you become an error text?
 

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I hope all you guys had a Happy Holiday, and maybe even busted a few nuts to one the VNs on F95 (hopefully our game)!
K4 shared a couple renders with me for a DEMO launching soon. I figured a late Holiday gift would be nice!
Enjoy!


Well everyone enjoy, View attachment Cheri_ring.webp View attachment Cheri_smoke.webp BUT that one guy DM'n K4 saying that I'm dropping spoilers in order to cause issues between us!:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
P.S. That won't work!
PEACE!
 
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