VN Ren'Py Phone Story [v0.61] [Taptus]

[Joshy92]

Hello, maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but you know that the game has the ability to play without blackmail? That is, you can literally stop Lisa from drinking at the bar and you will have a regular game branch. The blackmail line is variable and if you don't want it to be in your game, it won't be, this is just one of the opportunities to make me, for people who like it, part of the content in the bush. Just like I will continue to make content for the line without blackmailing Karl.

Hey Taptus I was wondering if Karl is the blackmail path will there be the option for another black guy for Lisa without blackmail down the line?

 

[Taptus]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you there. Everyone has the right to criticize the game regardless of it's a paid supporter or not in the end of the day everyone that has the time to download, play it and comment in the game page are all fans of the game and want to see it have success. Everyone has their own reasons to why they do not support the game on patreon, in my case for example is because I don't trust game devs on this website. Yeah Taptus has been doing a good job so far and I've been happy with the updates until this one but still I've seen times and times again where a dev is super responsive and makes good updates only for it to go downhill months later and the game goes abandoned because of reasons that only those devs know and then all the money that the supposed "true fans" gave goes to waste.

I can assure you that despite the game's drain and temporary dismoral, I will continue to make the game. Here, however, there is a possibility that I got sick, but that's another story.
In any case, I don't plan to quit the game, and I don't even have that thought in mind. The most important thing is that I like it and enjoy it myself. Yes, I make mistakes in some parts, but who among us is without sin?

 

[Taptus]

Hey Taptus I was wondering if Karl is the blackmail path will there be the option for another black guy for Lisa without blackmail down the line?

Karl will be both in the line of blackmail, and Without, just in the branches of NTR and NTS and Love, already as separate branches, there will be another branch with Karl's blackmail. At the same time, Sem (Lisa's black coach) remains in the game.
Soon there will be several white characters in the game, this is Aaron-Lisa's ex-boyfriend and a few more.

In other words, Karl's blackmail is just a convenient preparation for me for part of the plot of future additions.

 

[Joshy92]

Karl will be both in the line of blackmail, and Without, just in the branches of NTR and NTS and Love, already as separate branches, there will be another branch with Karl's blackmail. At the same time, Sem (Lisa's black coach) remains in the game.
Soon there will be several white characters in the game, this is Aaron-Lisa's ex-boyfriend and a few more.

In other words, Karl's blackmail is just a convenient preparation for me for part of the plot of future additions.

Awesome, thank you for the quick response, Taptus. I hope you have a good evening.

 

[malha_vacas69]

Hey Taptus as someone that has been enjoying the game until know and was also disappointed with how the story developed in this update please don't lose your motivation because of the criticism. Good and bad decision are part of the development of it, I reckon that the game is still in it's early stages of development so any criticism and feedback will only help you grow as a developer and you will learn your audience better. In my case I just prefer a natural flow of the story without feeling forced. When I choose the Karl's path I thought that the cheating would come as a natural progression of Karl and Lisa getting closed to each other but with the blackmail it feels like it's going to be forced to happen (I don't know if I'm making sense here). Maybe some option to see what the path will lead to in the future would probably help, like there was no way to see the it would end up in blackmail.

 

[Taptus]

Hey Taptus as someone that has been enjoying the game until know and was also disappointed with how the story developed in this update please don't lose your motivation because of the criticism. Good and bad decision are part of the development of it, I reckon that the game is still in it's early stages of development so any criticism and feedback will only help you grow as a developer and you will learn your audience better. In my case I just prefer a natural flow of the story without feeling forced. When I choose the Karl's path I thought that the cheating would come as a natural progression of Karl and Lisa getting closed to each other but with the blackmail it feels like it's going to be forced to happen (I don't know if I'm making sense here). Maybe some option to see what the path will lead to in the future would probably help, like there was no way to see the it would end up in blackmail.

Hello, thank you for your feedback. Karl's path and the neutral path are just different versions of events. There are no right or wrong options, primary or secondary. Just as there is no right branch of the game and NTR and NTS and Love are all the right branches of the game, there are no wrong ones. Karl's path is a path for those who like blackmail and further humiliation, a neutral path will allow you to develop NTR, NTS and Love relationships more smoothly, without coercion. The player always has a choice

 

[ItsNotUs]

So, because of the scoundrel who leaked my game here, it is now in the public domain. There is no worse demotivation for me. Good luck to you all.

You know, i can only give my subjective advice not to get too worked up about it, otherwise it might burn you out!

There is a fairly well-known team of NTR game devs, the head of which also often came and scolded in the thread for an early liсk, they also had a model after a month the release was given out for free, but they were not against the fact that the release did not happen immediately, but at least after 10 days, allowing them to make money on high tiers, but for this you will have to raise the prices of your product and make a gradation by tiers and to move on to this you need to provide better quality content!
Don't get me wrong, but constructive criticism should also be taken calmly and with "dignity"!

You know what path interests me more in this game, so as a pirate i will say that i agree with those who said above that this update is "short-bad", there is little content in it - content that interests me!

A couple of points to make everything clearer:

1. Yes, as i assumed, it was Karl's car and Lisa felt sick, but in the position in which he sits and which the last update ended with, it says otherwise,i understand that this is AI, but i would do so that Karl's right hand lies on Lisa's back and he himself is either surprised.

2. Black and white footage from a surveillance camera, as some one said above, almost nothing is clear on them, yes, i understand that this is the idea, but it was possible to make high-quality AI images and remove the color in a photo editor by making them black and white and in Photoshop add a frame from a surveillance camera and a grainy or interference effect!
Then, when you enlarged these pictures on a phone, you could more clearly understand what was on them.

3. Many bugs, "thoughts" run in front of the text and pictures, i.e. the scene has not yet been, but the thought has already appeared. In one of the scenes the thoughts just froze in place and the text underneath them was hard to read!
In Love Path it is said that Karl helped Lisa get to bed, although in the pictures from the camera she is there completely alone!

4. Since i also play NTR path, i didn't like that the cliffhanger is the same for all paths.
Lisa feels sick in all options - i would like her to suck him off on the NTR path, but these are my personal wishes, so that there would be a difference between the paths not only in the texts but also in such key moments!

As for blackmail, it's not about what you added it, but how you did it!
Yes, i know that there is an option not to go this way or to choose not to give in to blackmail, but for now this option ends the game.
As for blackmail, i personally don’t understand what it’s for!?
Lisa in NTR paht behaves in such a way that she does not need to be blackmailed (what can i say, even on the Love Path she has such thoughts ), she kisses Karl and thinks about how good she is with him, etc. This is the path to slow corruption, why blackmail if Lisa herself will want Karl after some time!? Personally, i do not understand this - probably like other people, that is why there is so much hate at this point!
Well, if you still decided to use blackmail in your game, think it through better. Karl is blackmail the MC and not the object of his desire! It seems to me that in this case Karl would be better off blackmailing Lisa while corrupting her! The fact that he knows that they falsified reports, etc., and now Lisa has to please him so that neither she nor her husband lose their jobs and positions!
This would be more logical.
I know that we discussed it with you and you told me what you mean by the NTR path in your game, but i still miss the classic one where the wife cheats and the husband doesn’t know or guesses, etc.!

The result of this update is that for me it turned out "bad" - but i see how much work you did, because it is visible from the paths and choices in them, if someone doubts this open the gallery, i have many unopened photos, because i do not follow the NTS path, but also that i made the "wrong" choice in the NTR path!

By the way, from here there is another point of minuses, the last photo in the gallery opens in the neutral option, it open on freedom points 150+, but no matter what i do, i gain. maximum 140, and i don’t want to replay from the very beginning, maybe it’s worth thinking about the option of opening the gallery via a code or optional by decision of the player himself!?

 

[Joshy92]

Hello, thank you for your feedback. Karl's path and the neutral path are just different versions of events. There are no right or wrong options, primary or secondary. Just as there is no right branch of the game and NTR and NTS and Love are all the right branches of the game, there are no wrong ones. Karl's path is a path for those who like blackmail and further humiliation, a neutral path will allow you to develop NTR, NTS and Love relationships more smoothly, without coercion. The player always has a choice

I really like that. A lot of devs make it feel like you have to play a certain way to get the 'best' options, but you are doing a good job of giving the players freedom without going overboard and making the game a convoluted mess.

 

[malha_vacas69]

Hello, thank you for your feedback. Karl's path and the neutral path are just different versions of events. There are no right or wrong options, primary or secondary. Just as there is no right branch of the game and NTR and NTS and Love are all the right branches of the game, there are no wrong ones. Karl's path is a path for those who like blackmail and further humiliation, a neutral path will allow you to develop NTR, NTS and Love relationships more smoothly, without coercion. The player always has a choice

Ok I played through the entire game again and this time I choose the Neutral Path when it gave me the choice and yeah it was exactly I had in mind before playing the update and more to my liking. Maybe for future updates instead of having Karl path maybe change it for Blackmail/Humiliation path. Having the kinks explained would probably resolve the confusion that the choice caused, because when choosing Karl's Path I honestly thought that would be the option that allows Lisa to get together with Karl.

 

[Taptus]

Ok I played through the entire game again and this time I choose the Neutral Path when it gave me the choice and yeah it was exactly I had in mind before playing the update and more to my liking. Maybe for future updates instead of having Karl path maybe change it for Blackmail/Humiliation path. Having the kinks explained would probably resolve the confusion that the choice caused, because when choosing Karl's Path I honestly thought that would be the option that allows Lisa to get together with Karl.

Yes, you are right, I have already marked this moment for myself from gold subscribers, and if my game had not been leaked ahead of time, then in the public version 0.6 this would have been fixed

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Is the neutral Path the same as Love Path??? If not, what is the difference because as a Player i felt left out with the last few Scenes with Karl and Lisa (no choices with impact)...! I want him to leave her alone and i want her to distance herself from this A**h**e. Can someone please make a mod with a "faithful only" switch??

 

[malha_vacas69]

Yes, you are right, I have already marked this moment for myself from gold subscribers, and if my game had not been leaked ahead of time, then in the public version 0.6 this would have been fixed

Yeah, I was honestly surprised when I saw the game here because I remember it should only be available at the end of the month, but I guess those are the risks of having the game on a pirate website and I would probably guess it will not be last time it happens. I remember the same happening to Netorase Phone and then it wasn't leaked for a few updates only for it to get leaked again last update.

 

[Taptus]

You know, i can only give my subjective advice not to get too worked up about it, otherwise it might burn you out!

There is a fairly well-known team of NTR game devs, the head of which also often came and scolded in the thread for an early liсk, they also had a model after a month the release was given out for free, but they were not against the fact that the release did not happen immediately, but at least after 10 days, allowing them to make money on high tiers, but for this you will have to raise the prices of your product and make a gradation by tiers and to move on to this you need to provide better quality content!
Don't get me wrong, but constructive criticism should also be taken calmly and with "dignity"!

You know what path interests me more in this game, so as a pirate i will say that i agree with those who said above that this update is "short-bad", there is little content in it - content that interests me!

A couple of points to make everything clearer:

1. Yes, as i assumed, it was Karl's car and Lisa felt sick, but in the position in which he sits and which the last update ended with, it says otherwise,i understand that this is AI, but i would do so that Karl's right hand lies on Lisa's back and he himself is either surprised.

2. Black and white footage from a surveillance camera, as some one said above, almost nothing is clear on them, yes, i understand that this is the idea, but it was possible to make high-quality AI images and remove the color in a photo editor by making them black and white and in Photoshop add a frame from a surveillance camera and a grainy or interference effect!
Then, when you enlarged these pictures on a phone, you could more clearly understand what was on them.

3. Many bugs, "thoughts" run in front of the text and pictures, i.e. the scene has not yet been, but the thought has already appeared. In one of the scenes the thoughts just froze in place and the text underneath them was hard to read!
In Love Path it is said that Karl helped Lisa get to bed, although in the pictures from the camera she is there completely alone!

4. Since i also play NTR path, i didn't like that the cliffhanger is the same for all paths.
Lisa feels sick in all options - i would like her to suck him off on the NTR path, but these are my personal wishes, so that there would be a difference between the paths not only in the texts but also in such key moments!

As for blackmail, it's not about what you added it, but how you did it!
Yes, i know that there is an option not to go this way or to choose not to give in to blackmail, but for now this option ends the game.
As for blackmail, i personally don’t understand what it’s for!?
Lisa in NTR paht behaves in such a way that she does not need to be blackmailed (what can i say, even on the Love Path she has such thoughts ), she kisses Karl and thinks about how good she is with him, etc. This is the path to slow corruption, why blackmail if Lisa herself will want Karl after some time!? Personally, i do not understand this - probably like other people, that is why there is so much hate at this point!
Well, if you still decided to use blackmail in your game, think it through better. Karl is blackmail the MC and not the object of his desire! It seems to me that in this case Karl would be better off blackmailing Lisa while corrupting her! The fact that he knows that they falsified reports, etc., and now Lisa has to please him so that neither she nor her husband lose their jobs and positions!
This would be more logical.
I know that we discussed it with you and you told me what you mean by the NTR path in your game, but i still miss the classic one where the wife cheats and the husband doesn’t know or guesses, etc.!

The result of this update is that for me it turned out "bad" - but i see how much work you did, because it is visible from the paths and choices in them, if someone doubts this open the gallery, i have many unopened photos, because i do not follow the NTS path, but also that i made the "wrong" choice in the NTR path!

By the way, from here there is another point of minuses, the last photo in the gallery opens in the neutral option, it open on freedom points 150+, but no matter what i do, i gain. maximum 140, and i don’t want to replay from the very beginning, maybe it’s worth thinking about the option of opening the gallery via a code or optional by decision of the player himself!?

Hello and thank you for your extensive feedback!
Can you tell me what you mean by better content in my case?

Regarding point 3, yes, there is a bug that I haven't fixed yet with the wrong dialog in the neutral branch. But at the expense of thoughts I did not understand, please reveal exactly where the bug is, and better with screenshots in the BOS as you did last time, it helped me a lot

Regarding the cheat code, someone already suggested this idea above, I'm still thinking about it, I'll probably make a vote on petreon whether to introduce this into the game

 

[Taptus]

Is the neutral Path the same as Love Path??? If not, what is the difference because as a Player i felt left out with the last few Scenes with Karl and Lisa (no choices with impact)...! I want him to leave her alone and i want her to distance herself from this A**h**e. Can someone please make a mod with a "faithful only" switch??

hello, I will rename both options in the future
Karl's way will become-the way "Karl blackmails Adam"
Neutral way-the way "No blackmail"

In other words, if you choose a neutral path, then regardless of your game branch (NTR, NTS or love), you will not have Karl's blackmail, you will play on your own branch without this event.

 

[Taptus]

Yeah, I was honestly surprised when I saw the game here because I remember it should only be available at the end of the month, but I guess those are the risks of having the game on a pirate website and I would probably guess it will not be last time it happens. I remember the same happening to Netorase Phone and then it wasn't leaked for a few updates only for it to get leaked again last update.

In any case, I will release 0.6 with all the fixes and new technical mechanics (changing the names of MC and FMC ) on March 25th, so if it is interesting to play without bugs and errors - welcome

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Hey Tap. Thank you for your response. I did try out the "Neutral Way"....but i wasn t sure what it exactly means. I thought that the Neutral Way would be a Path where the Status Quo were reached (no ntr/nts; love at minimum; both parties (husband and wife) doesn t care about eachother); Thats my definition of a Neutral Way! Thanks for clearing that up. So..if i want to stay on the faithful path, sometimes i have to choose the neutral way. Check!

 

[ItsNotUs]

Hello and thank you for your extensive feedback!
Can you tell me what you mean by better content in my case?

Regarding point 3, yes, there is a bug that I haven't fixed yet with the wrong dialog in the neutral branch. But at the expense of thoughts I did not understand, please reveal exactly where the bug is, and better with screenshots in the BOS as you did last time, it helped me a lot

Regarding the cheat code, someone already suggested this idea above, I'm still thinking about it, I'll probably make a vote on petreon whether to introduce this into the game

The best content is like a figure of speech, it's just that if you want to, for example, raise the prices of your product, you have to raise the quality, the same one path for example the Love Path in this update took 10 minutes and as i said above the clifenger has one and OG for all paths, but these are options, its for you to decide for yourself what to do!

The thoughts of the MC that pop up during the deals at one point in the NTR path he thought about Lisa squatting in front of Karl and her eye at the level of his dick, but this picture appeared only after a couple of lines of text, at another point the thoughts on the black background did not disappear as usual, but hung and the text according to the plot goes further
I'll look it tomorrow and send you PM!

 

[tton8]

Taptus, just do your thing. You can learn technical stuff etc., but it's your vision as far as the content is concerned.

GL and do not be discouraged. Uphills and downhills are all part of the process of getting anything worthwhile done.

 

[666terror666]

For those guys hating the "blackmail" surprise. Would it have pissed off you less if the path wasnt called "karl path" but "blackmail path"? So that you know what you chose?

 

[BrandonW]

Taptus, just do your thing. You can learn technical stuff etc., but it's your vision as far as the content is concerned.

GL and do not be discouraged. Uphills and downhills are all part of the process of getting anything worthwhile done.

My sentiments exactly. Keep up the good work and do not be discouraged. Your work so far is very promising and it will get better with each cycle.