Tyktamsyl

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As it occured to me, NTR is when the MC watches at others fucking and gets blue balled.
It doesn't seem to be the case here as he can participate and litteraly fuck every female he meets.
Most of it is avoidable, BTW. Even those without included story branching options, simply by pressing the "skip" button and go to the next porn scene. Which is what I do with 90% of any porn scene of every game, considering most are crap, and cringe as fuck. This game is a exception to that. Visually, it's a blast.

Yet, in terms of story and dialogues, it's been litteraly dead for years now. There is nothing new, not a single link appearing between the different plots. No real alchemy. It's there, somewhere, but still a the "teasing/milking" embryonic stage. They'll have to move that schedule up someday, or this game will simply die. But hell. I've not seen that kind of render quality, scene orchestrations and animations anywhere in any other porn game whatsoever.

So to me, NTR is not the issue here. Painting in the angles and playing the clock is starting to be one. Why adding a new character and not developping stories like the one with Lina/Risa for example, or Fiona's garage/ruin side story ? Why not developping really the harem instead of including new characters that won't be developped any further for years ? That's stupid.
I don’t think the skip button is the same as avoidable content. Imagine a 12 hour ntr only game and someone tells you it is avoidable because you can skip it. As for the other stuff, no idea. I always thought this game was getting lots of updates pretty consistently.
 

Jericho85

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I don’t think the skip button is the same as avoidable content. Imagine a 12 hour ntr only game and someone tells you it is avoidable because you can skip it. As for the other stuff, no idea. I always thought this game was getting lots of updates pretty consistently.
The sharing/swinging content is avoidable. None of it is forced. This game has catered toward a wide range of tropes except actual NTR, and those tropes are typically foreshadowed well before the content appears. And this game approaches those kinks in a medley of side stories, so you can choose whether or not you even want to do that girl's content unless it's story critical. That's why it's avoidable.

For example, Alice is a side girl and her content was always going to be a cuck husband, sharing, and/or swinging route. That's what her entire arc is themed as, so if that's not your thing you can just choose to avoid Alice and Will's route altogether because it's basically a "side story" so to speak. Jennifer's content is that way for me. She doesn't appeal to me in the slightest so I just avoid her content entirely except for the parts early on that were required for other girls I'm interested in.
 

Tyktamsyl

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The sharing/swinging content is avoidable. None of it is forced. This game has catered toward a wide range of tropes except actual NTR, and those tropes are typically foreshadowed well before the content appears. And this game approaches those kinks in a medley of side stories, so you can choose whether or not you even want to do that girl's content unless it's story critical. That's why it's avoidable.

For example, Alice is a side girl and her content was always going to be a cuck husband, sharing, and/or swinging route. That's what her entire arc is themed as, so if that's not your thing you can just choose to avoid Alice and Will's route altogether because it's basically a "side story" so to speak. Jennifer's content is that way for me. She doesn't appeal to me in the slightest so I just avoid her content entirely except for the parts early on that were required for other girls I'm interested in.
Yeah, I got that information beforehand, I am just talking about the idea of calling something avoidable just because you can skip it.
 

Tyktamsyl

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I mean, I don't understand your confusion then... If you can skip content then it's avoidable... Hence why we call it "avoidable".

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There is no confusion on my end. I am talking about skippable with the skip button, I think you are talking about fully skipping a girl's content if that isn't what you are interested in. That to me is also not "avoidable", routes make it avoidable, which is what happens in this game. There is no confusion or conflict.

Like if you told me that there is ntr in Final Fantasy 69 and the only way to avoid it was to not play the last chapter (Or skip it with a skip button), that to me would be unavoidable ntr. I am just talking about the concept though.
 
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Jericho85

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There is no confusion on my end. I am talking about skippable with the skip button, I think you are talking about fully skipping a girl's content if that isn't what you are interested in. That to me is also not "avoidable", routes make it avoidable, which is what happens in this game. There is no confusion or conflict.
Unavoidable content would be something that happens in a linear narrative and there are no choices available avoid watching said content. That's not the case here. In this case, you do have a choice. Each of the girl's side story is a "route" because they are independent. You can choose whether to watch the content or whether to avoid it.

So if swinging or sharing isn't your thing, then good news! Alice is a side girl and her content is optional.
 

Tyktamsyl

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Unavoidable content would be something that happens in a linear narrative and there are no choices available avoid watching said content. That's not the case here. In this case, you do have a choice. Each of the girl's side story is a "route" because they are independent. You can choose whether to watch the content or not or whether to avoid it.

So if swinging isn't your thing, then good news! It's avoidable side content.
I feel like you are not hearing me. Whatever though, it is okay to have different opinions about what counts as avoidable and not avoidable. The developers seem to have done it right here by giving you routes. To me, making you *choose* to not see a side story by not clicking on it, would not be avoidable. Avoidable is when you can see that side story and choose a route to avoid that sort of content. In the end it doesn't matter, we have different views and that is okay.
 

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This, avoidable should always mean that that "something" never actually happens, not that you dont see it.
For me, an event is unavoidable if it's an event in which you cannot progress the main story without watching the scene, and you have no option to skip it. For example, say MC has a girlfriend or wife at the start of the story. There's a sex scene with her without an option to reject it (assuming you'd want to). That's unavoidable.

But even by your definition, the swinging and sharing content with Alice is still avoidable as nothing in the Alice & Will side story happens without the MC's involvement. By choosing not to do Alice's route, then she never engages in swinging or sharing even behind the scenes.
 
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AJSHR

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I don;t know what path I took with "Alice" (not evil) but it is totally cutoff, like there has no progress of her since like the gym one(?). I got gallery unlocker and saw there were tons if gone "evil" which seems way too fun ;)
 

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I love the idea of the conversation happening is only happening because someone decided to change the definition of skipping and avoidable to try and justify themselves walking into sharing or swinging even though warned several times about it ingame.

The Anti NTR-Brigade will march miles to hurt themselves like the true soldiers they are. :LUL:
 

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I love the idea of the conversation happening is only happening because someone decided to change the definition of skipping and avoidable to try and justify themselves walking into sharing or swinging even though warned several times about it ingame.

The Anti NTR-Brigade will march miles to hurt themselves like the true soldiers they are. :LUL:
What is the cuck/NTR brigade? those who cried about the "facepalm"? :LUL:
 

Badjourasmix

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I love the idea of the conversation happening is only happening because someone decided to change the definition of skipping and avoidable to try and justify themselves walking into sharing or swinging even though warned several times about it ingame.

The Anti NTR-Brigade will march miles to hurt themselves like the true soldiers they are. :LUL:
I haven't played the update yet, is there any actual content in this update with other men that is not avoidable by making the "right" choices? Up until now I don't remember a single scene in the game where you see a love interest with other men unless you want it to happen. Did it change with this update or are people just being dumb as usual?
 

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I haven't played the update yet, is there any actual content in this update with other men that is not avoidable by making the "right" choices? Up until now I don't remember a single scene in the game where you see a love interest with other men unless you want it to happen. Did it change with this update or are people just being dumb as usual?
Nope. There still isn't any unavoidable content involving other men. That hasn't changed in the new update.
 

Badjourasmix

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Nope. it's all avoidable if you don't want to see it.
Just to be clear, by avoidable do you mean that it doesn't happen in the story or you just don't see the scene but it still happens? Because if it doesn't happen storywise then I don't know wtf people are complaining about. The game has had content like that pretty much since the start.
 
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Bouwen

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Its not ntr guys. This game never had ntr and never will have. Moochie hate cheating, i hate cheating, whole team hate it, if it concern mc, its always up to him if he will allow it. This all drama is here because of sharing one particular character and i agree, this is something for futher discussion. But guys.. all criticism no matter what have to always be constructive, otherwise its very difficult to take it seriously.
 

Jericho85

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Just to be clear, by avoidable do you mean that it doesn't happen in the story or you just don't see the scene but it still happens? Because if it doesn't happen storywise then I don't know wtf people are complaining about. The game has had content like that pretty much since the start.
As in it doesn't happen.

Its not ntr guys. This game never had ntr and never will have. Moochie hate cheating, i hate cheating, whole team hate it, if it concern mc, its always up to him if he will allow it. This all drama is here because of sharing one particular character and i agree, this is something for futher discussion. But guys.. all criticism no matter what have to always be constructive, otherwise its very difficult to take it seriously.

I mean we know that, but you know some people on F95 be like:

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