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The last update of lost in paradise has been released to Patreon. Now waiting for the update of P.E.
That is not so surprising at all! While there is a lot of NTR stuff in both PE and LIP, you can also find viable non-NTR routes. E.g. PE has a route where "nothing" happens beside our couple helping Cornell keeping his secret. It also has sharing/swinging paths. So it is not quite a surprise there is support from non-NTR players.
Another example would be 3Diddly, also a hard NTR developer, but his current game "Wifey´s dilemma revisited" is his first one with major non-NTR routes, like full romance and sharing/swinging, which are quite nicely done. So he also has support from non-NTR players.
I don't thik non ntr player will ever support a ntr developer
Non ntr players always avoid ntr developer
But here I can see developer got much success by making only ntr game
As I wrote before, this depends on if there are viable non-NTR parts in the game! Developers like Dimajio333 , 3Diddlyf95zone or Fronte91 have NTR in their games, but also well done, great non-NTR paths.
So it is not surprising that non-NTR players also play and support these games. Not for the NTR, but for the non-NTR paths.
- Sep 7, 2023
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NTR games are so controversial among players for the simple reason that many Devs develop the stories in an almost identical way, then they don't really relate the adventures of a couple or a betrayal, for many Devs a wife in these cases becomes super slut in a day, so much so that in the end she develops love for her lovers and they all treat MCs like shit, even in those games where MCs are condescending in sharing, in the real world of Cuck etc, it's not like that, not even in situations of real betrayals, everything is done in sex with lovers or bulls, but nothing more, in games however, in 99% of cases the woman ends up running away with her lover just because she has the dick of a horse, another stereotype, all bulls or lovers have dicks like horses, all the MCs are mini gifted, practically the game develops around a slutty woman and a big dick, here's also the reason for using the various BBCs, which then doesn't make sense, in a fantasy game you can also use a Japanese guy with a horse's cock, a lot and fantasy, but instead we always have to use this mythology of the black guy, hahahhha
Well don't play ntr games nor do i play avoidable ntr games (as most if the cases developer first introduce sex scenes for ntr player non ntr player have to wait for a long time eg culture shock)
I don't know how someone can even play ntr games there mentally is something else
They should just play female mc games
Different persons, different tastes! I do not play NTR games unless it is avoidable and the non-NTR paths are really good. For example, 3Diddly´s "Wifey´s dilemma revisited" or Fronte91´s "Sharing is caring" both have hard NTR paths, but also very good sharing/swinging, romance and partly even Netori (you being the bull, not the cuck) paths.
Games that are worth being played.
The game "Culture Shock" you mentioned is an example of how it is not done, this particular was great in the beginning, but no longer anymore.
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I think that the story is actually different than what Dev wants to show us!!!!!
I have 2 hypotheses:
1) Julia already had a secret relationship with Cornell and they planned this adventure together. Why I say this is because if you play the game, Julia was very open and enthusiastic about this challenge from the beginning, even though her body was put to the test.
I say this because Cornell could always pay one of his many mistresses to play the role of the fiancee for a few days!!!!! But he chose le Julia!!!!! Why ??????
2) Cornell liked Julia for a long time and did not know how to attract her to his bed without Julia's lover being against it. So he invented the story with his mother (who knew about her son's plans and helped him) to bring Julia to his bed. From what I can see, Cornell's sister also knows what it's about, because she doesn't make too much of a fuss when she finds Julia in panties and a bra with "Cornell's best friend (meaning her real boyfriend) at midnight.
All that remains is to see what the new game update brings us this month!!! I hope I am wrong about the 2 hypotheses above
I have 2 hypotheses:
1) Julia already had a secret relationship with Cornell and they planned this adventure together. Why I say this is because if you play the game, Julia was very open and enthusiastic about this challenge from the beginning, even though her body was put to the test.
I say this because Cornell could always pay one of his many mistresses to play the role of the fiancee for a few days!!!!! But he chose le Julia!!!!! Why ??????
2) Cornell liked Julia for a long time and did not know how to attract her to his bed without Julia's lover being against it. So he invented the story with his mother (who knew about her son's plans and helped him) to bring Julia to his bed. From what I can see, Cornell's sister also knows what it's about, because she doesn't make too much of a fuss when she finds Julia in panties and a bra with "Cornell's best friend (meaning her real boyfriend) at midnight.
All that remains is to see what the new game update brings us this month!!! I hope I am wrong about the 2 hypotheses above
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I very much agree with your opinions, I immediately had the feeling that MC had been set up in this engagement by the Cornell/Julia couple, and honestly if in the end it turns out like this, I feel cheated by the Dev because in his description of the game he didn't have made no mention of it, just as it did not keep many truths, some time ago I also did some tests with various photos of events, which were artfully constructed by Cornell and his sister, even the photo of the condom, or the camera that Cornell moves for a few nights, then something really very very poor, Julia who does not show the slightest opposition to everything that Cornell or her sister proposes or does, and this is very questionable, all of which makes it an obvious and tasteless game , I find these deceptive games to be real pranks for us, it's not the first time that a game has happened where the creator cheats the players, on Steam it happened with another game, and the critics have massacred it, so much so that Steam and the creator had to change the gameplay dynamics and also refund part of the price. here I am reliving the same sensation, I repeat, I invited many of you to play it with a certain logic, and you can see that Cornell and Julia with her sister Jasmine are all in agreement, there are very clear signs, the dev was not capable not even to limit all these problems.
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oh man, now I have to change the script to fit your expectation
p.s. Don't search for a trick where there isn't one, otherwise, you'll be disappointed that you weren't cheated and will think that, in itself, is a cheat.
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I think the story is more simple.
Cornell has a huge dick, Julia likes big dicks (like many wifes, lucky me I haven't a black friend
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oh man, now I have to change the script to fit your expectation
p.s. Don't search for a trick where there isn't one, otherwise, you'll be disappointed that you weren't cheated and will think that, in itself, is a cheat.
evidently if you gave me the honor to answer me it means that I have touched a raw nerve, I would like to point out that if you read other posts by other players, they have developed the same skepticism as me, this makes it clear that I am not the only one to have my doubts , and observing some dynamics of the game, there are many contradictions that tell our perceptions about the game. I'm not asking for changes, nor are my thoughts on the history of the game, you are the creator, the game is yours, the rules are yours, but we players too, don't let ourselves be thought of as stupid, respect for respect.
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I think you guys are reaching for something that is not there. I think Julia is intrigued with the situation of sharing or cuckolding her fiance . It is a win Win for her. In the route where MC is kinda neurotic.... or he himself dives in the water of company of a lady. Julia flips the coin and does the same to him ( We think ) I do not think they are less in love .... just what is good for the gander..... Only my thoughts.
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This game goes round and round, and please don't be moralistic, I'm not against NTR if done well, they are the real porn games to play, they are not like Harem games, I don't understand those and I will never understand them, but the problem with the western NTRs and that they are too influenced by the eastern ones, those are the worst, no decisions, just idiotic and submissive MCs, as is in their culture, only that instead of the usual woman, in the game it is the men who are submissive, and here in the West the creators have not developed their own true identity, but have only modified the way in which the orientals play the game, here on many occasions there is an inexpressive Jliua, what Cpnnel wants to do she accepts, even in front of MC, He also takes the piss out of Mc by telling him that it's all a theatre, in fact this is a theater created to cheat Mc, director and actor Connel, actresses Julia and Jasmine, producer Connel's mother, the only paying spectator with his stupidity is just MC, and the film is done.
It is funny and also interesting how many points of view PE generates. Here are my 2 cents, if I get the proverb right:
Some posts are disregarding what we learn in the game about the characters and then going onto some wild theories. For instance, we learn at the beginning that the MC and Julia are a happy couple, the only troubled area is the bedroom. What happens quite often, after about a decade together, sex has become a bit routine for them, it lacks earlier passion.
The MC, unlike what some discutants insinuate, is not bad in bed! We can see this on the paths where the two share fantasies. Afterwards they have a really passionate romp, both happy they rekindled the flame. We also can see it with Jasmine, e.g. the motorcycle ride. It is the routine after over decade together which is responsible for the bedroom problems.
If the MC and Julia share their fantasies, the tone of many scenes changes. Our couple learns on most paths that these fantasies and the "Game/Act" they play to help Cornell rekindles their sexual desires. If you explore these fantasies before and during being at Cornell´s house, it is pretty clear that our couple stays close and in love.
Even if the MC goes onto the Jasmine path a bit, this is not too problematic. I estimate some swinging/sharing down the road here, a complete couples switch only with specific decisions to be made.
I have saves with shared fantasies, high CP and with/without Jasmine in the mix. On both the story makes it rather clear that our couple is still in love and has fun experimenting how far they want to go, neither Cornell nor Jasmine a danger for the relationship.
You get on the cheating path mainly if you never share your fantasies, fully go for Jasmine, but intervene often with Julia and Cornell. So if the MC goes prick, we see the cheating path.
There is also a faithful path here, where the end will be Cornell´s family leaving pleased,the acting successful and nothing happening.
I do not disregard a possible orchestration of events by Cornell (not Julia!), but I doubt everything was planned beforehand.
Some posts are disregarding what we learn in the game about the characters and then going onto some wild theories. For instance, we learn at the beginning that the MC and Julia are a happy couple, the only troubled area is the bedroom. What happens quite often, after about a decade together, sex has become a bit routine for them, it lacks earlier passion.
The MC, unlike what some discutants insinuate, is not bad in bed! We can see this on the paths where the two share fantasies. Afterwards they have a really passionate romp, both happy they rekindled the flame. We also can see it with Jasmine, e.g. the motorcycle ride. It is the routine after over decade together which is responsible for the bedroom problems.
If the MC and Julia share their fantasies, the tone of many scenes changes. Our couple learns on most paths that these fantasies and the "Game/Act" they play to help Cornell rekindles their sexual desires. If you explore these fantasies before and during being at Cornell´s house, it is pretty clear that our couple stays close and in love.
Even if the MC goes onto the Jasmine path a bit, this is not too problematic. I estimate some swinging/sharing down the road here, a complete couples switch only with specific decisions to be made.
I have saves with shared fantasies, high CP and with/without Jasmine in the mix. On both the story makes it rather clear that our couple is still in love and has fun experimenting how far they want to go, neither Cornell nor Jasmine a danger for the relationship.
You get on the cheating path mainly if you never share your fantasies, fully go for Jasmine, but intervene often with Julia and Cornell. So if the MC goes prick, we see the cheating path.
There is also a faithful path here, where the end will be Cornell´s family leaving pleased,the acting successful and nothing happening.
I do not disregard a possible orchestration of events by Cornell (not Julia!), but I doubt everything was planned beforehand.
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in this post you are behaving just like the people you just accused of plotting, I am someone who has seen very strange things from the characters in the game, if you want I will give you point by point the steps where your reasoning is dismantled:
the first Mc and Julia are not married, they have been living together for a while but are still only engaged,
we add that it is Julia who puts pressure and agrees to help Connnel, we have the two options as Mc, but in any case they are not needed, because Julia decided for Mc, where he is very reluctant, precisely because he knows Connell who does not respect any woman, so how can we assume that Mc plays the game well if initially he doesn't want to, then with every strange movement because MC is always nervous and jealous, it's not sharing behavior etc. and we are still in the first phase.
then we have the real problem of the couple already before Connell's entry, where MC cums almost immediately when he fucks and many times he left Julia without enjoying himself,
in the scene of Connell's speech on the request, if you pay attention, Connell holds Julia's hand right in front of her as if he were only talking to her as an interlocutor, he gives MC even slightly vague looks,
then we know from the descriptions that Connell is always surrounded by beautiful women, therefore why does he need Julia, when he could have others, then why coincidentally does he say that when his mother asked him for a photo, coincidentally he had a photo of Julia in lonely, and we're only at the beginning, but don't worry, I won't give the whole report, now I'll limit myself to the other things that are too obvious, and I'm talking about what seems like the beginning, where MC and Jasmine haven't even touched each other yet, let's talk about the need to have a password to understand that they are exaggerating, really, basically if the word didn't exist you mean that Julia, no Connel, wouldn't stop, so she goes through with it if the word isn't said, strange, this leads to the look that Julia shows when is with Connell in front of the family, shows intimacy as a slut, no as a girlfriend, passionate kisses with wrapping her leg on Connell, or never taking a step back in stopping Connell's hands when they are not seen by the mother, I can tell you I repeat thousands episodes that show the complete opposite of what you are saying, regardless of which path you choose, because many of these interactions are already at the beginning of the story, then we have the most sensational cases, which some say are imaginary, other bullshit, MC gets kissed by Jasmine, a kiss, and the following night we notice the scene of the condom full of cum coming out of the sheets, and then disappearing, the cameras moved by Connell, the groping in the pool, the mega birthday present, the naked photos that Jasmine takes of couple in hot poses on the sofa, if you want I continue with big scenes or less obvious scenes, if I haven't been clear, I repeat I'm talking about most of the first minutes of the game where MC and Jasmine haven't even touched a hand yet.
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Many people think that this whole situation is a plan of Julia and Cornell? I don't think so. Even dev had said earlier that there is no prior agreement between Julia, Cornell and Jasmine. It is said that if there is an agreement, the dev will have to change even the script of the story. The cheating path is set here if you have a relationship with jasmine without caring about julia. References that increase the relationship between julia and cornell if mc help themselves to show an open relationship between them. As dev said before, since this is a short story that ends quickly, he had to quickly shows a corruption that takes a lot of time... Taking them as Iggy, thinking of Julia as a slut girlfriend, leads you to think different way. but Think they are other possibility.
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Ilcoriglianese forte
I agree with most of what you are saying except :
I agree with most of what you are saying except :
The Mc gets a choice to stop the the photo shoot at many points.