nice and all but the dev should be the ones open about issues they face rather than fans making the excuses for them.There's a slight difference. You're FUNDING development, which normally means you would be looking for a return on investment once the product is ready - but in this case, you are getting some agreed upon rewards instead of a share of the profit from sales. The problem is that development isn't always smooth and linear, and that's even more true the smaller your team is - being sick for a week during a given month means that the output of a single person team is down 25% from baseline. Tack on a couple of other challenges, and it's easy to see how updates slip completely, or contain way less content than anyone wants. Not to mention that unless your patreon bucks are substantially higher than your monthly expenses, you either have to have a backup fund to cover attrition of funding, a second job, or regularly do a bunch of promotion to bring new funding in. And if your issue is that it turns out to be harder than you thought it would be to make as much content as your audience wants every month, then you need to figure out whether adding someone else to the team (or farming out some aspect on contract) is worth the additional tax of communicating, meeting, documenting and all of the other stuff that you have to do when you collaborate.
Just saying - this ain't an easy thing to do well, and the audience isn't very forgiving - unless you're making a furry game - the furries will forgive any amount of delay, sandbagging and grift if they think you're going to make something they'll like.
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I've never liked the "it's just a donation" or "you're funding development" argument for porn game devs on Patreon.
A good point, made even better by the fact that people are shitting on this dev for doing almost nothing in 2 years, which I find to be roughly the development time of a truly great Japanese RPGMaker porn game. I follow tons of them on Ci-En and the most talented ones making actually large games usually take about 2 years from the first post announcing the beginning of development to the final release. It's why I always buy from the Japanese and almost never donate to Patreons. Buying a one month subscription to a porn game that'll probably never even get finished sucks, I'd much rather just buy the finished game at the end, but that doesn't allow the dev to rake in thousands of dollars for relatively little work so it's no surprise that it's not a popular choice.don't mind me, just reminding everyone about all the dozens of japanese devs that create whole ass games with next to nothing support consistently without crying about it while living in a first world country that is moderately expensive
I hate AI art, but I can at least understand the laziness that motivates people to use it. Using AI to come up with scene and dialogue ideas because he's too lazy to think of them himself is next level pathetic lmao
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I already had Stat.Lewdness and Stat.Exhibitionism maxed at 25 from version 10 so I never tried changing those. The Arousal and Stress stats can still be changed and thank god for that. It's grindy enough as it is. Here's a save file with maxed stats if you want it.
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No, there is also Handjob scene in bus and grinding between thighs. It was a really good update with several meaninugful scenes in the bus. If you get all the scenes the game will notifiy it.
, said the moron that deleted their profile on said forum after using it as free advertisement. Getting " ideas " from AI is a new kind of low effort game design. $7k not enough?
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Kind of sad that there are basically no events in the game as is, yet he's already out of ideas lol.
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I even made a donation because this update was really good
I haven't played this game in awhile. Is there still no events on the bus going to work and/or when you sit on a seat (as opposed to holding the handle)?
I can't even imagine why anybody would NEED to do something like this in the first place. If you've been a fan of this genre for more than a year you've probably got an entire bank vault's worth of scenarios to pull from with no effort. This game is so barebones that you don't exactly have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find new stuff, basically anything would be an improvement.
Slum area with bums and a shady bar, strip club, bathroom with glory hole, beach with pickup artists, customer that offers you a sketchy modelling job, camgirl, Onlyfans equivalent, weird gynecologist, stalker, creepy neighbor. Those are just ones that I can rattle off instantly with no thought required, and they'd all fit well enough in this type of game. There's no need to reinvent the wheel here.
Some clothing requires greater exhibitionism than one can achieve... then what's the point of the clothing? or can you set it any higher than 25?
Maybe for dialogue?
Like say you run a prompt around 10 times for possible dialogues in creepy neighbor scenario, you find one that strikes your fancy and edit it to sound and fit better. It's a useful tool, so long as it's not a replacement.
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Oh boy, that stockpile of toxic shit is getting beyond all measures.
Well i have some news for you.
1) The dev owes you nothing unless you´ve struck a direct deal - tip him / or don´t / or wait with it until the next release
2) It isn´t his job to provide gratis fixes for what a bunch of bratty porn addicts on F95 imagine to be an appropriate amount of content within a certain timespan. You might aswell nonstop throw all your resources into a black hole, it won´t be enough, no matter what
3) Abelius provides you with free versions. Now don´t be one of those bigtime jerks who would never support an erodev with a single dollar in their lifetime, instead insult him of scamming, lazyness, etc in hopes to force more and quicker gratis material for you to fap upon out of him
Well i have some news for you.
1) The dev owes you nothing unless you´ve struck a direct deal - tip him / or don´t / or wait with it until the next release
2) It isn´t his job to provide gratis fixes for what a bunch of bratty porn addicts on F95 imagine to be an appropriate amount of content within a certain timespan. You might aswell nonstop throw all your resources into a black hole, it won´t be enough, no matter what
3) Abelius provides you with free versions. Now don´t be one of those bigtime jerks who would never support an erodev with a single dollar in their lifetime, instead insult him of scamming, lazyness, etc in hopes to force more and quicker gratis material for you to fap upon out of him
Maybe, but he specifically said in that Discord post that it was for ideas, NOT dialogue. Ideas really should be the easiest part. I also don't think that the dialogue in any of my given scenarios would be difficult enough to justify using AI anyway. Like I said, if you've played porn games for a while and have a decent grasp on the English language you can write porn game dialogue. The standards aren't exactly sky-high with this sort of thing.
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Well, I have some news for you.
People here are allergic to fanboys saying crap like "the dev needs more money". If somebody starts that crap, then they should expect response from community.
I am supporting around 15 different developers through crowdfunding. Some people here might laugh at that number, but I am only supporting those devs who deliver persistent work and updates. If they fail to deliver the results, then they dont deserve any money.
But Abelius development ethic is terrible. He fails to deliver any results after 2 years of development. Yet he keeps saying how much work he is doing. 10 months for an update and then new update has minimal amount of new content. He is obviously lying. This is money scam.
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Exactly. Also, I follow the Rogue Like Prime mod discord, and they have a channel set up for crowd sourcing ideas, some get accepted some rejected, there's a ton of requests too... no need for AI, in this case (for porn specifically) I think that there's no better input than a human one. They treat the community like human beings and that's for a non-for profit project. Even that psychopath of Yandere Simulator instead of using AI recruited volunteers and nobody complained and nobody thought it was shameful, in fact I saw a lot of them go the extra mile to help the dude because they believed in the project and wanted to see it come to fruition.... until he started to abuse the helpers and get into some stupid rants and drama.
If these people actually did work and were appreciative and humble about those who help and donate we wouldn't have these types of discussions.
I was expecting the next Insexsity with better looking art style, but it seems we will only get drama, donor milking and an ABANDONED tag.