No fucking shot you found this HAHA btw has the landlord fucked the MC yet?
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Isn't it sort of ironic that Abelius hates when his game is pirated but he himself is downloading fitgirl repacks?
So everyone has to pay a monthly subscription for his game but he's allowed to pirate games?
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Isn't it sort of ironic that Abelius hates when his game is pirated but he himself is downloading fitgirl repacks?
So everyone has to pay a monthly subscription for his game but he's allowed to pirate games?
- May 10, 2020
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Oh no, he's donating to FitGirl so that gives him permission to download everything they release. Just like other people with his games, see?So everyone has to pay a monthly subscription for his game but he's allowed to pirate games?
- Aug 24, 2022
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What...? That didn't make any sense lol.
- Jun 9, 2017
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First, and very important rule of hardworking people:
1. Don't brag about it. If you're working hard on something or in general, you don't have time to say that you are working hard. And you don't need to prove to anyone that you are working hard.
Broadcasting to the world that you are "working hard" is the domain of lazy slackers.
2. I said something like that to this Abelius guy at the very beginning of this project, and he instantly became aggressive.
Why someone could be aggressive after such a word? Because he was called out on his bullshit.
He's a talker, not a developer. Talker with milking ideology. He talks, and his acolytes on the discord follow him mindlessly receiving nothing back.
This game could be good, but this dev is shit, so it is what it is.
1. Don't brag about it. If you're working hard on something or in general, you don't have time to say that you are working hard. And you don't need to prove to anyone that you are working hard.
Broadcasting to the world that you are "working hard" is the domain of lazy slackers.
2. I said something like that to this Abelius guy at the very beginning of this project, and he instantly became aggressive.
Why someone could be aggressive after such a word? Because he was called out on his bullshit.
He's a talker, not a developer. Talker with milking ideology. He talks, and his acolytes on the discord follow him mindlessly receiving nothing back.
This game could be good, but this dev is shit, so it is what it is.
At this point talking about the dev is more entertaining than playing the game itself.
Not a great look.
Not a great look.
Hostility towards criticism seems to be a reoccurring trend.
In another thread i criticized two mistakes he made in his previous game:
1. He failed to react to things that were not already in his plan.
2. He burned down the project around him by ignoring negative feedback.
I warned him that if he doesn't learn from these mistakes then his future games will suffer for it. His responses included a few sentences that might be appreciated here:
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"Doesn't matter if a deadline is made public or not. Without a closed work plan they [his last team] only know they're working... but they don't know *when* they'll finish until the very last month, or just when they decide to release an unpolished sub-version aka. "tech demo".
It's been two years and they still didn't figure out basic project management. "
and
"I'm going to release my game in September.
Why am I so sure? Because I made a Gantt chart along with the Trello board, and I see it happening. Not because I wishfully say so, like these guys, but because I have identified every task remaining, coordinated with Naikal (my new illustrator) and WE have a closed plan. "
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So, his ability to schedule and plan ahead set him aside from other devs, because he doesn't just promise, he knows exactly what and when he will deliver.
This aged quite well, i'd guess.
Man I bet Abelius ego searches this forum daily, c'mon Abelius if you're reading this prove all of these guys wrong and let's turn this fucking dream into a reality let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS DO THIS SHIT MAN! U GOT THIS
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guys i cannot clean up the mess. i check everyday like everywhere in the apartment but no cleaning option pops up...
- Jun 26, 2017
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I hate to break it to you, but I don't think anyone can clean up this mess.
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and this is the reason y dont even want to support anymore another good game just trowing the towel wile he is laugh of us like yummy tiger and neiron fountain of mana
- May 10, 2020
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In Yummi's defense, he charges per Major Game Update, not month, so if he doesn't push out a big update he doesn't get paid.and this is the reason y dont even want to support anymore another good game just trowing the towel wile he is laugh of us like yummy tiger and neiron fountain of mana
- May 20, 2020
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an important lesson. Everyone should learn to buy a product for what you are getting, not the promise of what you could get.and this is the reason y dont even want to support anymore another good game just trowing the towel wile he is laugh of us like yummy tiger and neiron fountain of mana
Is like buying a house without never have seen it before.
I personally only pay for a game that is already finished or if unfinished but what is already done already justifies the pricetag. A patreon is just like kickstarter, a tool for scammers
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Patreon's perfectly fine as a tool, but only when people realise what it is and don't convince themselves that it's something it isn't.
Patreon is literally just: a tool to financially support a creator you like. It is not a platform to purchase a product, it is not a guarantee of any future content - and that's where I think people tend to slip up, and feel like they've been scammed.
The safest thing if people aren't willing to take a gamble is, like you say, just buy finished (or unfinished but final versions of) content, where you know what you're getting. It's the smart thing to do if you just want to pay for a product and receive that product, and don't want to do the specific thing that Patreon exists for. I will only ever support a Patreon if
a) I've enjoyed some content for free that I thought was really worth X price, and I want to support long enough to pay X price
or
b) I genuinely love what the creator is doing and their design approach etc., and am willing to take that gamble, knowing that just like an investment it may not necessarily be 'successful'
It's rare that I do use Patreon, as there are very few (b) devs out there, and for the (a) ones I can typically just buy the product. But I genuinely think this is the only way people should be treating Patreon, you're just choosing to support them in whatever they do - it's got 'patron' in its name, after all!
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Sometimes you walk and walk and walk..
And you see something that look like an oasis..
And you walk and walk.. But it doesn't seem to be getting any closer..
And you walk and get so tired.. you decide to sleep on it..
And you wake up and think.. It was only a mirage uh?
Oh sorry totally off topic not related to this game at all.
Still love the Idea and graphics..
And you see something that look like an oasis..
And you walk and walk.. But it doesn't seem to be getting any closer..
And you walk and get so tired.. you decide to sleep on it..
And you wake up and think.. It was only a mirage uh?
Oh sorry totally off topic not related to this game at all.
Still love the Idea and graphics..
Thank you! Too many people don't get this. The idea of Patreon and its clones is based on the traditional idea of patronizing an artist, where you (traditionally somebody wealthy, Patreon's big revolution was to enable crowdsourced patronage) give money to support them financially (so they can pay their bills, rent, etc) so they can spend their time making their art, not to purchase something from them. It's like what you do when you donate to a charity, for example. Often that patronage can grant special privileges (like early access to their work, etc), but it's supposed to be different in purpose from a transaction, like purchasing a product from the artist.Patreon's perfectly fine as a tool, but only when people realise what it is and don't convince themselves that it's something it isn't.
Patreon is literally just: a tool to financially support a creator you like. It is not a platform to purchase a product, it is not a guarantee of any future content - and that's where I think people tend to slip up, and feel like they've been scammed.
The safest thing if people aren't willing to take a gamble is, like you say, just buy finished (or unfinished but final versions of) content, where you know what you're getting. It's the smart thing to do if you just want to pay for a product and receive that product, and don't want to do the specific thing that Patreon exists for. I will only ever support a Patreon if
a) I've enjoyed some content for free that I thought was really worth X price, and I want to support long enough to pay X price
or
b) I genuinely love what the creator is doing and their design approach etc., and am willing to take that gamble, knowing that just like an investment it may not necessarily be 'successful'
It's rare that I do use Patreon, as there are very few (b) devs out there, and for the (a) ones I can typically just buy the product. But I genuinely think this is the only way people should be treating Patreon, you're just choosing to support them in whatever they do - it's got 'patron' in its name, after all!
But tbf, many creators on Patreon have helped create this confusion about the site's purpose themselves by (mis)using it to sell products directly in a transactional manner