POLL: You like Femdom. Does your gf/wife mistress(s) have sexual relations with other men?

[Staimh]

There's no shame in being a cuckold, unless you want there to be.

Guess that depends on how unrealistic one's self pretensions were
(should own up, it was long enough ago that I can't really give a monkey's chuff, thanks for the reassurance though)

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

There are many flavors of femdom, but for me the only one that really works is the one that also involves cuckolding. Yeah, you can give your MC a huge dick and do some "oh we only fuck if I want and how I want, and you're just my toy, blah blah blah" thing, but that doesn't do it for me. Inadequacy is a big aspect of femdom for me, that doesn't mean the MC has to have a micro-penis, just a smaller one than the ridiculously larger ones of other men. Chastity should also be a main aspect. Also plenty of other fetishes, you didn't mention any, this concerns me. Foot fetish content and femdom also naturally goes together for me. And plenty of other degenerate shit. But I'll stop.

 

[hakarlman]

Hakarlman, I would definitely take your own opinions and fitgirlbestgirls before mine.

Thanks, but I'm trying to avoid my argument being an opinion. It has to be solid fact, or else I'll make a mistake and people will get pissed off.

Since you showed so much interest in the topic, here are some more precise definitions:

Netorase -

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By the deliberate actions/inactions of the protagonist, or by the agreement with the significant other, in this VN their committed partner ends up engaging in sexual relations with other people. Only one member of the couple has sex with others.

Under normal circumstances neither side of the couple has a desire to cheat, but due to the desires of one partner, their significant other will end up having sex with other people. This can be a mutually agreed act with a trustworthy person, which the partner convinces their significant other to have sex with, or a selfish act, with the partner selling or whoring their significant other for personal gain (money, blackmail material on someone, etc.).

In every case, the partner is (at least initially) fine with their significant other being sexually involved with other people, and possibly even enjoys it.

Don't confuse with

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where both romantic partners have sex with others, or

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, which is a long time agreement involving romantic feelings, while Netorase is a momentary satisfaction of a kink.

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Cuckoldry -

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Unlike the traditional definition of the term, in fetish usage a cuckold or wife watching is complicit in their partner's sexual "infidelity"; the wife who enjoys cuckolding her husband is called a cuckoldress if the man is more submissive. If a couple can keep the fantasy in the bedroom, or come to an agreement where being cuckolded in reality does not damage the relationship, they may try it out in reality. However, the primary proponent of the fantasy is almost always the one being humiliated, or the "cuckold": the cuckold convinces his lover to participate in the fantasy for them, though other "cuckolds" may prefer their lover to initiate the situation instead. The fetish fantasy does not work at all if the cuckold is being humiliated against their will. [[[CHEATING/NETORARE/NTR ]]

Psychology regards cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism, the cuckold deriving pleasure from being humiliated. In Freudian analysis, cuckold fetishism is the eroticization of the fears of infidelity and of failure in the man's competition for procreation and the affection of females.[citation needed] In his book Masochism and the Self, psychologist Roy Baumeister advanced a Self Theory analysis that cuckolding (or specifically, all masochism) was a form of escaping from self-awareness, at times when self-awareness becomes burdensome, such as with perceived inadequacy. According to this theory, the physical or mental pain from masochism brings attention away from the self, which would be desirable in times of "guilt, anxiety, or insecurity", or at other times when self-awareness is unpleasant.

 

[Staimh]

Thanks, but I'm trying to avoid my argument being an opinion. It has to be solid fact, or else I'll make a mistake and people will get pissed off.
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The fetish fantasy does not work at all if the cuckold is being humiliated against their will. [[[CHEATING/NETORARE/NTR ]]
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Wow - too much learning for me.
You are being very thorough
I'm impressed that you clearly want to understand other peoples perceptions but I do feel mine have been proved questionable.

The quote in yellow does imply I was not a cuckold at all and my relationship was just plain old cheating (I'm almost a bit deflated).
I wonder how much a sexual therapist could have charged to help me reach this conclusion.

Keep up the good work and wishing your project all the best.

 

[Staimh]

Hakarlman you have recently started another thread
You love Femdom, but HATE NTR/Cuckold/Sharing, and you might have an ounce of self respect. Do you find this story sample erotic?
However I don't fall within the criteria you have indicated you want to contribute to that thread so I'm answering it in this one.

I like femdom and feel distinctly uncomfortable with NTR/cucking but could not describe my reaction as hate. It's worth noting femdom on it's own will make me very uncomfortable if it develops into what I percieve as callous cruelty or abuse. Also I'm fairly sure I don't have a very alpha or sexually dominant personality (don't try to persuade me against my will about which beer or cheese is better than another though).

I think if a game starts neutrally enough, is subsequently immersive enough to remain interesting (idiosyncracy and novelty will count for a lot for me) and then develops into cuckoldry or NTR I would go with it.
However a direct approach into cuckoldry/NTR porn simply using a game as a means of distribution will probably be abandoned without bothering to finish it and be deleted from my game folders.

So what I'm trying to say is the quality of the story pitched within the game can potentially overrule my prejudices (I'm sure I can't be the only one). The example you wrote in the referenced post would keep my interest going.

 

[hakarlman]

Hakarlman you have recently started another thread
You love Femdom, but HATE NTR/Cuckold/Sharing, and you might have an ounce of self respect. Do you find this story sample erotic?
However I don't fall within the criteria you have indicated you want to contribute to that thread so I'm answering it in this one.

I like femdom and feel distinctly uncomfortable with NTR/cucking but could not describe my reaction as hate. It's worth noting femdom on it's own will make me very uncomfortable if it develops into what I percieve as callous cruelty or abuse. Also I'm fairly sure I don't have a very alpha or sexually dominant personality (don't try to persuade me against my will about which beer or cheese is better than another though).

I think if a game starts neutrally enough, is subsequently immersive enough to remain interesting (idiosyncracy and novelty will count for a lot for me) and then develops into cuckoldry or NTR I would go with it.
However a direct approach into cuckoldry/NTR porn simply using a game as a means of distribution will probably be abandoned without bothering to finish it and be deleted from my game folders.

So what I'm trying to say is the quality of the story pitched within the game can potentially overrule my prejudices (I'm sure I can't be the only one). The example you wrote in the referenced post would keep my interest going.

You're gonna like what I'm making then. NOTHING is forced, you can choose. Let me give you an example: What I'm about to share may sound odd in theory, but within the context of the game, it fits perfectly.

I'd like anyone else who reads the following to please tell me which choice you would make. If you love femdom, yet hate NTR; please mention this. If you love harem, you can answer to. If you love Femdom and NTR, you can answer too. Just mention what category you're in when you respond, thanks.

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Dear Femdom Lover and NTR hater, what choice would you make?
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*You and your [MC chose Mother/Girlfriend/Sister/Girlfriend as Companion] encounter a dangerous gang in the alleyway*

*After analysis, you know the vulnerabilities of this gang.*

*This gang is vulnerable to [Class H type Combat Maneuvers] and [Visual Erotic Stimulation].*

What do you do?

a) Use [Visual Erotic Stimulation] ; Ordering your companion to expose her breasts & pussy, and use any means necessary to keep the enemy distracted; aggro.
b) Use [Class H type Combat Maneuvers] ; Order your companion to stay fully clothed and deflect grope attempts, not letting them touch her.
c) Use a mix of both, with outcome A & B becoming a hybrid result.

(A) Outcome

*The gang is immediately distracted by your [Companion]'s breasts and her smooth pussy. They cannot stop focusing on her due to their genetic vulnerability towards erotic stimulation. With the gang unable to control themselves, they swarm your companion and place their hands all over her, of which you clearly see, groping her and feeling her up. You then easily knock each one out and the battle is won.*

*Aftermath: The battle has erotically stimulated both you and your companion. You must quell your libido or face detrimental status effects.*

*You and your [Companion] engage in your favorite sexual fetish in the alleyway, engaging in a lust filled act after an intense battle.*

*You must generate [Biological Condition A] which requires you feel up your [Companion] in various ways before the next battle.*

[[[Feel free to modify the above scenario with your own ideas in your response if you want. Don't worry about story believability for now.]]]

(B) Outcome

*Using expert analysis and recon, you use special combat tactics that take advantage of the gang's vulnerability.*

*Aftermath: Due to you and your [companion]'s genetic disposition, your libido rating has sky rocketed from the intensity of the fight.*

*You and your [Companion] engage in your favorite sexual fetish in the alleyway, engaging in a lust filled act after an intense battle.*

*You must generate [Biological Condition A] which requires you feel up your [Companion] in various ways before the next battle.*

*You perform the same animations that the enemy NPC gang in outcome A would've done, groping and feeling up your [Companion] (ensuring the player does not miss out on any content)*

[[[IF YOU HATE NTR and Love Femdom, or if you LOVE HAREM, feel free to modify outcome with your own ideas when you respond. Don't worry about story believability for now.]]]]]]

 

[slider]

I like both femdom and cuckolding, but I can't answer without knowing more of the context. It would depend mostly on the setting (realistic or fantasy), how receptive the female character is to being a "meat shield" for them, her relationship with the MC (as in how close they are, who is on top, etc), and what kind of personality I'm giving to the MC.

 

[hakarlman]

I like both femdom and cuckolding, but..................

I'll be honest. I'm confused by your answer. You like Femdom and Cuckolding, BUT ..... under certain conditions you'd want to go Harem and be Dominant? The 'but' indicates you'd want to do the opposite of Femdom & Cuckolding, based on certain conditions?

I can't answer without knowing more of the context.

So you're saying based upon the context, you'd want to go Harem Dominant MC, Femdom (Submissive MC) or Cuckolding (Submissive MC)? You'd want to choose between those three paths?

It would depend mostly on the setting (realistic or fantasy), how receptive the female character is to being a "meat shield" for them, her relationship with the MC (as in how close they are, who is on top, etc), and what kind of personality I'm giving to the MC.

So in a realistic setting, you'd want to be Harem Dominant MC? Then in a fantasy setting, you prefer Femdom and Cuckolding? Not sure I understand your angle. I'm dying to know though.

For me, the setting doesn't matter, my fetishes don't change based upon scene. For example, I don't like the spanking fetish, no matter if the scene is Fantasy or Modern.

how receptive the female character is to being a "meat shield" for them,

Aaah, this I understand. You want to know if it's against her will or a form of rape? It's 100% consensual, she knows what she's getting into, but she also follows your judgement; do you use sexual means, combat means, or both? Then depending on how submissive you are, she literally takes over everything, so you're not in charge at all, but she takes advice from you for a good reason.

and what kind of personality I'm giving to the MC.

The MC is an open book. You mold him into a dominant harem seeking alpha, or a submissive who like femdom and/or cuckolding.

Conclusion.

Based on your answer, it seems you like:

Harem
Femdom
Cuckolding

Because based on CONDITION X,Y,Z, you're tastes might dramatically change? That's what I took from your response.

I always like to play Femdom/NTR games FIRST and fore most. I'll try Harem games, but most of the time they're too vanilla, tame and have zero challenge. They feel empty as hell because it was just too easy, too easy = turn off. There is one Harem game I liked, it's called Corruption. The MC was actually an evil sadistic bastard who is into some very kinky shit.

On a side note, my research is showing that guys who like Femdom, but don't like NTR/Cuck/Sharing, seem to have a very dominant personality (VERY surprising), they want to have MASSIVE control over the women, despite submitting to the woman supposedly. It's almost a form of FEMDOM LIGHT(I'm talking featherweight division). Nothing wrong with that btw, it's just interesting. It caused me to make a lot of changes or else I would've upset a lot of people, lol.

 

[slider]

Disclaimer: English is not my first language, please don't over-analyze my wording

I'll be honest. I'm confused by your answer. You like Femdom and Cuckolding, BUT ..... under certain conditions you'd want to go Harem and be Dominant? The 'but' indicates you'd want to do the opposite of Femdom & Cuckolding, based on certain conditions?

Femdom and cuckolding are probably my favorite fetishes, but they are not the only ones I like and I'm comfortable roleplaying a wide range of characters. Regarding cuckolding, since what I like most about the fetish is the setting and everything surrounding it, I can also enjoy it from the eyes of the bull too.

So you're saying based upon the context, you'd want to go Harem Dominant MC, Femdom (Submissive MC) or Cuckolding (Submissive MC)? You'd want to choose between those three paths?

I feels like in your game we have an amazing degree of freedom and loads of content irregardless of the "path" we follow, so I imagine I'll play as a submissive (mostly towards "his" women) guy who gets cuckolded, as these are my main fetishes.

So in a realistic setting, you'd want to be Harem Dominant MC? Then in a fantasy setting, you prefer Femdom and Cuckolding? Not sure I understand your angle. I'm dying to know though.

For me, the setting doesn't matter, my fetishes don't change based upon scene. For example, I don't like the spanking fetish, no matter if the scene is Fantasy or Modern.

Wether I play as my "default" subby MC or I rather play as a brave hero for a chance is a matter of lots of factors. If I were to play in a realistic modern setting, I'd feel more inclined to play as a sub to explore some extreme things that I normally feel comfortable doing irl. If I'd were to to play in a fantasy setting, I'd be more open to roleplay a character with a very different personality than me or with super-attributes.

Aaah, this I understand. You want to know if it's against her will or a form of rape? It's 100% consensual, she knows what she's getting into, but she also follows your judgement; do you use sexual means, combat means, or both? Then depending on how submissive you are, she literally takes over everything, so you're not in charge at all, but she takes advice from you for a good reason.

If I'm playing as a sub/myself, I love seeing women getting super-slutty and even submissive towards another man (specially if there's the contrast of them being dommy with me), but I don't like them seeing degraded if I'm attached to them. If I play as an asshole (sometimes I like doing that, more so in unrealistic settings), I wouldn't mind exploiting them.

The MC is an open book. You mold him into a dominant harem seeking alpha, or a submissive who like femdom and/or cuckolding.

That sounds great. I think I'll do a subby run as my main playthrough, but I'm curious about trying the other routes. Since I know there's the possibility of customizing the MC, I'll do them very different to each other is all ways possible.

Conclusion.

Based on your answer, it seems you like:

Harem
Femdom
Cuckolding

Because based on CONDITION X,Y,Z, you're tastes might dramatically change? That's what I took from your response.

I always like to play Femdom/NTR games FIRST and fore most. I'll try Harem games, but most of the time they're too vanilla, tame and have zero challenge. They feel empty as hell because it was just too easy, too easy = turn off. There is one Harem game I liked, it's called Corruption. The MC was actually an evil sadistic bastard who is into some very kinky shit.

Harem is not really a fetish of mine, but when I play a supersexual asshole I can enjoy it. While I like seeing several sexy women close to me, I prefer monogamist relationships when it comes to the love part.

On a side note, my research is showing that guys who like Femdom, but don't like NTR/Cuck/Sharing, seem to have a very dominant personality (VERY surprising), they want to have MASSIVE control over the women, despite submitting to the woman supposedly. It's almost a form of FEMDOM LIGHT(I'm talking featherweight division). Nothing wrong with that btw, it's just interesting. It caused me to make a lot of changes or else I would've upset a lot of people, lol.

That's topping from the bottom. It usually comes from misogynistic people that enjoy femdom because they have an humiliation/degradation fetish. Just like some racist people are turned on by interracial cuckolding but dislike black people otherwise.

I enjoy femdom as a fetish and as a relationship style. That's why when I self insert the most as the MC, I prefer to have a lovingly/gentle female-led relationship with the love interest, and regular/rougher femdom with the rest of the girls.

 

[Trapitalism101]

I need some help from someone who hates NTR, but loves Femdom.

There are 3D renders of your mistress(s) serving drinks on a platter in skimpy outfits; various sexy waitress, serving and walking poses. She's serving drinks to dominant men while the submissive MC watches in agony; she's humiliating him the whole time, telling him how pathetic he is. Obviously, players who dislike NTR most likely will not like this scene. So what's the solution?

(The following image is not a render, nor is it from my game. It's just a random sample image off the net.)
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Imagine the above is one of your mistress. In what story context, of which you find MASSIVELY erotic, would she be serving items of any kind on a platter with you around; as your being humiliated or just hanging out like a good pet?

I want to make sure the players get to enjoy the erotic nature of these renders, but I need story context. I already have some ideas, but I want to know what the first thing that pops in your mind is; then compare it to my current ideas.

If I can't figure this out, the player will lose out on about 4% of content. My goal is to ensure at least 80% of the games content gets to be enjoyed by the player, but without doing a half assed job. It has to be an immense erotic turn on, or it doesn't get shown.

It's the humiliation/ emotional pain thing that is a hard no for me. Hotwife/ntr/sharing can be really hot, but the malicious insulting aspect that so often accompanies it makes em not want to pay attention to the person being abusive.

 

[oldtaku]

this whole thread kinda stupid isn't it. if shes the master why do you have a choice? can you really call it femdom if you have any power over what she does? obviously there might be things you would enjoy but having options not to take part in them wouldn't be femdom to have.

in the poll you have the power to keep her exclusively, or if youre getting cucked whether you want to watch, if you do its optional. i know its nitpicky since the results would be the same if you worded it differently but how you get those results is the whole fetish!
its totally different if she takes an action to say, not have you watch, vs her forgetting to ask or you actively not being interested, and it makes a world of difference if she chooses to have other men or not vs you wanting her to have other men. femdom is based entirely on her being assertive and taking actions indepenant of your will.

also having multiple mistresses is retarded. you can't serve two masters, especially when it comes to cuckolding. what sense would that litterally make to have multiple mistresses cuck you, none! think of a harem game where you have a bunch of girls fall over you, would it make sense if all of those girls had dudes on the side, as far as the genre is concerned?

TLDR: word the poll differently next time.

 

[ScrollPast]

I prefer male dominant roles. I like the cuckholdry fantasy, but I'm someone who fantasizes about being the bull not the cuck (even though that would never happen lol). But IRL I'd feel too guilty to actually do it even if I got a chance, and I wouldn't ever accept my partner sleeping around with other guys. But that's not to say I only like monogamous stuff, I like it when a dominant guy get's multiple gals, like if I were to just escape to any reality of my choice, I'd love to have about 3 wives that are undyingly loyal and loving to me, and also play around with eachother. Basically harem.

The only type of fantasy I like where a woman takes a dominant role is like a super loyal motherly love. Being breastfed by big milkers and getting lots of kisses and snuggles. That kind of thing ;0 Otherwise I really am not turned on at all when it comes to dominant women. So that's my perspective as someone who does not enjoy femdom stuff. That includes futanari, not a fan of that stuff either. I hope that was sort of interesting, and glad to see people being respectful of eachothers lifestyles and desires.

 

[frillynonsense]

Veery tempted to pick the last option... but I decided for a bit of seriousness and went with the first one instead.

About the Third Edit options, it would be either B or C; "see but don't touch" sounds pretty hot.

As for the First Edit, consider pegging. If you're not enough to fuck her, then maybe you should be the one being fucked.

 

[Bigtool]

Personally not much in to femdom, though a good writer can make it work. I am a fan of user selectable, which could go a long way here. It asks more of you as a content creator but it adds a lot for your customer too. Different routes means a form of replayability in your game.

 

[TuffSub]

I like femdom.
I'm also polyamorous.
My partners may decide to take other partners and create other relationships, including my dominant partners, including relationships where they may be dominant or submissive or vanilla, and engage in various activities. They may offer (or demand, if those are the rules of our relationship) that I take part in some of those activities. I may decide to accept that offer, or resist that demand, or anything between.
I may also decide to take other partners and create other relationships, and engage in activities, and possibly invite some of my partners to join in activities.
As long as nothing is done in violation of the agreed rules of the relationships, no trusts are violated, safety is maintained, and no one is denied their needs, what's the harm?

But that's RL. As for computer games, I would usually prefer to have the option to watch while my mistress(es) plays with others. I have no problem with my MC being a member of an NPC's harem, and forming his own harem.

 

[Kalkuv]

In your poll, you ask about gf/wife Mistress, but what you describe in the following quote, makes it seem as the dom-sub/sexual aspect is the only reason for the relationship at all.
But in my opinion, theres more to "lifetime"-relationship then that.
Irt cacn't be 100% dom/sub in life.
Outside the Bdsm the submissive MC could be funny, caring, a good parent and so on.

1) You're playing as a submissive MC, and your mistress is dominant. Why would your dominant mistress choose to stay loyal to you, rather than be fucked by other men? (I can give you possible reasons: (a) you're well endowed (b) you're highly attractive; either cute or highly masculine and rugged. (c) You're able to learn and execute the sexual techniques she wants; ex: impacting her clitoris upon every thrust with your perfectly shaped dick. - - (If you agree with all these reasons, and can't add your own, your approval of my reasons would be appreciated.))

Also your example with the gang. Me and my wife with a slight liking of Femdom.
But in the gang example, there would be 0% connection between that and our reaction to the situation.
On a further note. If this situation( in a game) had any reslution, which even in the slightest sexual aspect, i would propably loose interesst in the game.



Last a wider point of Fem/Male-dom games in general, which is mostly ignored: all the other aspects of the relationship.
First most games that i tried it seems as is there no consent, it start out rapey untill the forced sub evntually starts to enjoy it.
Next, often you don't see any aftercare, as stated here before.
Also rarely( atleast i believe so) are dom-relations 24/7. Not only the day to day living, but also sexual.

 

[JoleenStar]

Love femdom. If she wanted a "bull" that would be fine, but her having a BUNCH of other men would be a turn off.

 

[slider]

Love femdom. If she wanted a "bull" that would be fine, but her having a BUNCH of other men would be a turn off.

I agree. The love interest having one bull (as in a main boyfriend, master, or fuck buddy) is preferable to them opening their legs for any man that approaches them. Having said that, no harm in a woman trying several men until they find the ideal one.

 

[HroH]

I don’t like sharing my harem

 

[galibx23]

I'm more into swinging with consensual cucking involved.
Edit: Trans and crossdressing and sub/dom relations is cool