Others Porn Empire [v0.92 dev5] [PEdev]

[Icebird]

It is possible that she is a rival's model. In this build, when a rival's model's contract expires, she can show up in your freelancer pool. Check your emails, there will be a email notification telling you ahead of time before this happens.

I personally enjoy the increased difficulty, but rest assure, the stable version will have the difficulty reduced.

More details about the circumstances: I didn't got emails about rival models. When I found this newcomer she did a girl-girl scene with one of my existing model. (Not really know if the autoprod assigned her but it seems this happen, because meanwhile other models start appearing as freelancers). Also I got a popup message when I was reached the first reputation level/star, now I had around 24 reputation score what means 2 yellow star and I get no popup about leveling like before in the older versions. As I remember these leveling popups unlocked some restrictions before. I know in higher reputation levels the rivals start siphoning out my uncontracted models with high potential, and at these times got these mails what you talk about.
So it seems things are out of sync a little, and I realized my early gained special characters will be retiring without I can use they potentials out. Using them at shootings makes deficit. Without videos no fan gains, fame loss and retiring boost. Only way is to let them camming to slow the process somewhat and get back using cheap wh0res to do some scenery. Also I should send away the most models because the std and health checkups bleeds me out (and I'm not say a word about recent robberies).This is how looks the 'easy' difficulty now

 

[mbmb]

More details about the circumstances: I didn't got emails about rival models. When I found this newcomer she did a girl-girl scene with one of my existing model. (Not really know if the autoprod assigned her but it seems this happen, because meanwhile other models start appearing as freelancers). Also I got a popup message when I was reached the first reputation level/star, now I had around 24 reputation score what means 2 yellow star and I get no popup about leveling like before in the older versions. As I remember these leveling popups unlocked some restrictions before. I know in higher reputation levels the rivals start siphoning out my uncontracted models with high potential, and at these times got these mails what you talk about.
So it seems things are out of sync a little, and I realized my early gained special characters will be retired without I can use they potentials out. Using them at shootings makes deficit. Without videos no fan gains, fame loss and retiring boost. Only way is to let them camming to slow the process somewhat and get back using cheap wh0res to do some scenery. Also I should send away the most models because the std and health checkups bleeds me out (and I'm not say a word about recent robberies).This is how looks the 'easy' difficulty now

if they're listed that you met them on jan1 im pretty sure they are rival girls. they just didnt get resigned yet (or wont be if it's bugged).

i've decided against locking too many mechanics behind rep level. final decision.
i want open play from the very start. players should go in any direction they want and proceed how they want.
you can imagine it's absolutely daunting to balance it right and abhorrent for first time players.
but i FUCKING HATE when devs railroad me into their way of playing the game. i dont want that. tried with PE, doesnt work.

i'll make retirement meters run slower special chicks. i can see being it a problem.
they were locked behind rep level before to avoid that, but thats not the way.

 

[Sihy]

I don't know if it was written previously, I didn't see it while scrolling through the posts. If I try to assign Maya Chase to the Cam Show, the game crashes.

 

[mbmb]

I don't know if it was written previously, I didn't see it while scrolling through the posts. If I try to assign Maya Chase to the Cam Show, the game crashes.

thats the game saying you shouldnt do that. girl's too smart.

 

[Icebird]

For the most part it is random, except location plays a factor. For example, whore spots like the alley, docks, and strip club will spawn very low lvl models, but other areas like the cafeteria, beach, etc will spawn decent to good models. Once you have unlocked the night club, it is the best place to spawn high tier models with max stats or almost max stats. The only other place that spawns better models is throwing a party or going to a convention.

I know nothing about the character generation but it can be a littlebit more ... sensible. I mean if characters generated at location it will be good if they get skills and traits what reflect better to that place. For example nurses at hospital should get bigger chance the medical skill. Persons at the shops should better get marketing skill or greedy trait. Persons at school should have higher intelligence, teachers should better chance to have leader skill, at gym girls should have better initial fitness and athletic, or flexible traits, and so on...

And it comes from the skills: the offering job at your company for retiring model can be more reasonable too. In this version when I tried, only one random position offered but mostly this isn't reflected that person's will to do, neither they skills.

 

[mbmb]

I know nothing about the character generation but it can be a littlebit more ... sensible. I mean if characters generated at location it will be good if they get skills and traits what reflect better to that place. For example nurses at hospital should get bigger chance the medical skill. Persons at the shops should better get marketing skill or greedy trait. Persons at school should have higher intelligence, teachers should better chance to have leader skill, at gym girls should have better initial fitness and athletic, or flexible traits, and so on...

And it comes from the skills: the offering job at your company for retiring model can be more reasonable too. In this version when I tried, only one random position offered but mostly this isn't reflected that person's will to do, neither they skills.

medical skill is deprecated btw. will be removed entirely. it was never even in use lol.
npcs at the school(library) tend to have higher potential and are younger. on the basketball court, cheerleaders have some beauty bonus, professors are at the cafeteria, chicks at the gym have higher chance of being athletic, ...
there are some location specific things, it just isnt really thrown in your face.

you can change the job of the staff member at any time to anything. i think it displays the job they like the most, not what their best skill is.

 

[Icebird]

if they're listed that you met them on jan1 im pretty sure they are rival girls. they just didnt get resigned yet (or wont be if it's bugged).

i've decided against locking too many mechanics behind rep level. final decision.
i want open play from the very start. players should go in any direction they want and proceed how they want.
you can imagine it's absolutely daunting to balance it right and abhorrent for first time players.
but i FUCKING HATE when devs railroad me into their way of playing the game. i dont want that. tried with PE, doesnt work.

i'll make retirement meters run slower special chicks. i can see being it a problem.
they were locked behind rep level before to avoid that, but thats not the way.

I'm completely agree with you.
Your game still the best in they category IMO and it's amazing how many features and things you put together, and I apprentiate and thank you your hard work. Your Pornempire is one of the rare game in this site what evolve to be better and better. (and this happen again, the game is more 'realistic' than before even if it's harder in this state)
I understand this is a leaked version, and I will be waiting for a stable one.

("i'll make retirement meters run slower special chicks. i can see being it a problem." - maybe a little tweak on 'loyal' trait?)

 

[Sihy]

thats the game saying you shouldnt do that. girl's too smart.

I tried reducing the intelligence, as a test, but as soon as I press "assign to Camshows" I get the same result, crash. Maybe she's not really the character to send to that section.... Although, if I'm not mistaken, in her "story" she says that she actually want to do the Camshow, right?

 

[vs2011xyz]

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[mbmb]

I tried reducing the intelligence, as a test, but as soon as I press "assign to Camshows" I get the same result, crash. Maybe she's not really the character to send to that section.... Although, if I'm not mistaken, in her "story" she says that she actually want to do the Camshow, right?

i was just joking. the game(or she) is bugged.
i'll try to trigger the bug, see whats going on.
in the meantime make her do other shit. or maybe even better, ignore her completely.

 

[Neterez]

I don't understand. When a random meeting occurs and the recruitment is not successful, I press the debug line (meet again), but when the meeting is repeated, it is impossible to repeat the recruitment, just end the conversation. Should it be like this or do some conditions need to be met?

 

[Lou111]

I was having a blast with this update. I got stopped dead in my tracks, though, when the game became unresponsive as I was hiring a male actor. The part where it asks how far he's willing to go.

So far, these items crossed my mind:
- Is there a maximum depravity for stationing a girl somewhere? If so, I feel it needs a tooltip or something.

- I feel like the girls don't learn fast enough on their own without training. I remember there being a policy for that. It's only for staff members now? Speaking of staff members, I had a director that stayed level 1 the entire playthrough (I don't hire anyone with less than 90 potential)

- A smaller detail; When creating a contract, enabling a more depraved act should enable everything below that, right? If I don't bother checking them all, will she only do the one act?

- I've got ten girls working all day every day (half-naked) at a carwash with a security guard (also half-naked) and dishing out $2000, and it produces $2 after three months (it was $1 before that). I could put ten homeless dogs on a street cone and make more money. Let's work it out. I understand that the goal is to have ten supermodels working there after ten years, but the game requires a starter property that functions and pays a little pocket money.

- It's time for more rival companies. 3x the number in place to start.

- More sex.

Love the update and looking forward to the fixes

 

[ElCativo1988]

How do the camshows work? I thought happiness was linked to fame and cut but models with similar fame will have different satisfaction. I even have one that is annoyed at 99% cut, her happiness slowly went into the 20s as she's never happy. What actually has an effect on income and happiness amounts.

I'm cheating the happiness so it's not the biggest deal but how would you keep them satisfied with their income without it?

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You can give yourself a 100% cut and you have no penalty. I'm not sure if it works properly at the time.

 

[mbmb]

Though I'm a patreon, it seems that dev is more active in here.

If the porn empire would be a life sim in the future, I wish there will be other kind of relationship such as friend, for retired models or staffs who is close enough with MC.
And if possible, random chance of death for characters who are 60+ years old.
And a heir system, which is the players could designate a heir when their PC is died... among his, or her own children.

Actually I'm not developer, Idk how long will it take and how how hard will it be, or even is it possible to make with the Godot engine.
All of those are literally my wish, I don't care even nothing would be possible.
I love your game, thank you for your hard work.

im more active on discord.
we talked about newgame+ of sorts where you play as one of your siblings. pretty high chance i'll make it. time skip for 18 years, move to another country and start over with some benefits.

as for the lifesim, i can allow modding to add functions to locations, like working there or whatever.
or i'll start adding them myself after v1.0.
i really need to keep focus to finish the game.

I don't understand. When a random meeting occurs and the recruitment is not successful, I press the debug line (meet again), but when the meeting is repeated, it is impossible to repeat the recruitment, just end the conversation. Should it be like this or do some conditions need to be met?

known bug. fixed already.

I was having a blast with this update. I got stopped dead in my tracks, though, when the game became unresponsive as I was hiring a male actor. The part where it asks how far he's willing to go.

So far, these items crossed my mind:
- Is there a maximum depravity for stationing a girl somewhere? If so, I feel it needs a tooltip or something.

- I feel like the girls don't learn fast enough on their own without training. I remember there being a policy for that. It's only for staff members now? Speaking of staff members, I had a director that stayed level 1 the entire playthrough (I don't hire anyone with less than 90 potential)

- A smaller detail; When creating a contract, enabling a more depraved act should enable everything below that, right? If I don't bother checking them all, will she only do the one act?

- I've got ten girls working all day every day (half-naked) at a carwash with a security guard (also half-naked) and dishing out $2000, and it produces $2 after three months (it was $1 before that). I could put ten homeless dogs on a street cone and make more money. Let's work it out. I understand that the goal is to have ten supermodels working there after ten years, but the game requires a starter property that functions and pays a little pocket money.

- It's time for more rival companies. 3x the number in place to start.

- More sex.

Love the update and looking forward to the fixes

-depravity wont rise over 50 when assigned to some place, after that it's porn
-it does. it's slower, coz the game is slower. i had problems coz girls lvled up too fast and their rates increased. theres 2 training related pa policies to make it pretty viable.
as for director, idk. it shouldnt be that slow. but theres also a pa policy to make it faster.
-contract: if you dont enable she wont shoot those scene types, depravity doesnt matter in that case.
-increase service quality as the popularity of the place increases. if you want faster progression put some marketers on it.

 

[DrLizardman]

I tried reducing the intelligence, as a test, but as soon as I press "assign to Camshows" I get the same result, crash. Maybe she's not really the character to send to that section.... Although, if I'm not mistaken, in her "story" she says that she actually want to do the Camshow, right?

I'm quite sure he was joking. No way she has camgirl perks and is not meant to be one.

 

[Artyom000]

The Income system in this game is completely fuck up, especially the passive income, the carwash dosent make barely any money and the montly expenses are way to high, and the only way to make more passive income with the carwash is spending even more money that you dont have, same with the strip club exept that you have to spend 66.000 to open it in the first place. And the cherry on top is that the moment you open the bussines all the pasive income is lost, 0 , nothing. There's no reason to do anythin else than secret filming with a phone and edit with a laptop.

 

[legendppk]

Speaking of staff members, I had a director that stayed level 1 the entire playthrough (I don't hire anyone with less than 90 potential)

In the current build, the jump from lvl 1 to lvl 2 is actually quite steep, especially since lvl 1 have low stats. Low stats give negative multipliers to base directing skill. You need to train the relevant stats (int and sex) up because they add a positive multiplier, once high enough, to the base directing skill. For example, a 50% multiplier of 5 base directing skill is just 7.5 but a 50% multiplier of 40 (lvl 4) is 60 (becomes lvl 6). Once you break that lvl 2 mark, it becomes easier to gain levels. For these reasons, I highly recommend training your staff, especially if they're low level or low stats.

Also since skill ups are based on % chance, it's possible you just had really bad RNG. And the director is being held back due to low stats like int and sex which would turn a base directing skill of 16 into an effective 7.

In my expereiences, a staff with 75 potential, once fully trained, can still reach lvl10. Anything less than that will struggle.

 

[legendppk]

The Income system in this game is completely fuck up, especially the passive income, the carwash dosent make barely any money and the montly expenses are way to high, and the only way to make more passive income with the carwash is spending even more money that you dont have, same with the strip club exept that you have to spend 66.000 to open it in the first place. And the cherry on top is that the moment you open the bussines all the pasive income is lost, 0 , nothing. There's no reason to do anythin else than secret filming with a phone and edit with a laptop.

Car wash, stripper club, and night club are all long term investments. You need to slowly build up their popularity. In my play through, it took almost 4-6 months before they started turning a profit or throw away money into service quality until popularity is 100. However, once they did become popular the car wash was bringing in $100K, and the others were making $250k each.

Also, these stats are relevant to which models you should put in each place:


You didn't hear this from me, but I heard mbmb was gonna tweak the car wash so it gains popularity faster since it's supposed to be the early game investment property.

 

[Blockout]

Camgirls are a pain in the ass unless you specialize towards them.

You can manually give them breaks, but that would be a chore to micromanage 30 camgirls.

To optimize camgirls more:

1. Assign a marketer to each one so their fame rises faster, the more fame the higher their income.
2. Assign each model merchandise (for now there's no cost to use this and it gives free fame)
3. Assign marketers to camshows in the marketing tab to 100% (you can also increase spending, sometimes it's better to spend $5k on weekly spending than to spend $5k on hiring another marketer for example), if it's not at near 100% you aren't making the full income you would be making
4. Hire production PA and use boost camshow earning policy
5. Hire financial PA and use 33% cheaper maintenance
6. Besides fame, the other most important stat that directly increase a camgirl's income is beauty. I personally never assign a model with less than 80 beauty. Nobody wants to watch an ugly camgirl, just like in real life. I mostly use models with 100+ beauty even if her other stats aren't that great.
7. Only use models with good traits if you can. Any model with Blueballs, Idol, and/or Virgin trait should automatically be assigned as a camgirl, they will become your top earners. If you can't find any, look for traits like attractive, cute, passionate, etc that give scene revenue modifiers, these are all stacking multipliers.
8. I can't stress enough how important it is to send your camgirls to the spa and massage and sign a contract with them, this will give them a daily total happiness boost of +8. The happier camgirls are, the more often they stream. If you just throw a model into camshow and expect her to earn free money, it won't work out so well.
9. If you're loaded with money, in the late game, paying $200,000 monthly investment will give all models a +5 happiness. It sounds crazy but it pays back major dividends. And when I'm making $50k per day with camgirls, $200k a month is nothing.
10. Personally, I still hover around 50% cut for my camgirls, it seems to be the sweet spot with the current balancing. You can get away with taking a 70% for some girls.
11. Keep web admin efficiency at 100%

There's some unknown factors mbmb put in that makes some girls more adverse to this and unhappy for unknown reasons (at least he hasn't told me yet the details). I still don't understand why some models have a -9 daily unhappiness and some have a -22 daily unhappiness and others a +5 daily happiness. I suspect it is they lose happiness with each scene and once they hit 0 happpiness, their daily unhappiness resets to +5 daily happiness.​

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Again, I apologize, because he saw that I was doing too well with camgirls and he may have overcorrected the numbers to bring my success back in line with everyone else's struggling poverty gameplay.​

Andrew got it all figured out.

 

[Lou111]

In the current build, the jump from lvl 1 to lvl 2 is actually quite steep, especially since lvl 1 have low stats. Low stats give negative multipliers to base directing skill. You need to train the relevant stats (int and sex) up because they add a positive multiplier, once high enough, to the base directing skill. For example, a 50% multiplier of 5 base directing skill is just 7.5 but a 50% multiplier of 40 (lvl 4) is 60 (becomes lvl 6). Once you break that lvl 2 mark, it becomes easier to gain levels. For these reasons, I highly recommend training your staff, especially if they're low level or low stats.

Also since skill ups are based on % chance, it's possible you just had really bad RNG. And the director is being held back due to low stats like int and sex which would turn a base directing skill of 16 into an effective 7.

In my expereiences, a staff with 75 potential, once fully trained, can still reach lvl10. Anything less than that will struggle.

This actually makes a lot of sense. If there is really a negative multiplier, that would explain everything.
Most directors I hire simply exist to remove the 10% penalty on films, and I hire them based on their preference, meaning they were all helpers etc. before being directors. Them being level 1 and not costing me a bunch of money isn't the worst thing for me, I just thought it was strange that they were stuck at level 1 the whole time...
Thanks for the intel