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So as you said, and I already find it out, its pretty bad for a management game. The curve of progression is AWFUL !!! And tutorial dont give the right hints to help you (like he is telling you to quickly open a company, when you are obviously not ready to do it).While I disagree about the difficulty, I too cheat just to save time (i.e. use cheat engine to max my stats and then stick a few billion $ in the bank to fund everything off interest).
Or rather, the difficulty is a curve and it's easy to bite off more than one can chew. For example, even with sixteen girls assigned to the nightclub, a 100% marketing rating and a 100% service rating I'm still six months in and it has only just now started bringing literally any money - all while costing over $100K per month to operate. And since you can't sell it, this will absolutely break the bank for anyone who buys it before they're ready.
It's the same way with the strip joint and even just opening a studio. The full staff needed to make that transition will easily run over $50K per month, and if it isn't immediately making more than that then it's another financial waterfall leading to certain doom.
So far, camwhores have been the only start-up project that almost can't fail, and even then as new game iterations have arrived their tolerance for my "fair cut" has dropped from around 25% to 10% or less. Websites can be easy to run, too, and should be the next step after that. Quality won't be great but the fans aren't that demanding with that particular venture (i.e. just pick generic boy-girl and flood it with home movies).
Meaning that most people (who don't cheat) will be stuck making home movies with cheap hookers for, oh, two or three years before amassing enough cash to expand into other things safely & successfully. Mind that this method is reliable and it will pay all your bills and you will make a profit... just very, very slowly.
If you don't want to cheat you can still grind your way to success, however. The trick is to keep dumping all your profits into the bank and sucking up to the manager to get better and better returns. Eventually, once you're making enough off those returns to hire one employee, go ahead and so - and make sure that the person you hire is Jenny so that can stop wasting time & energy at the gym. Don't even think about expanding your staff or facilities in any way until their expenses are safely covered by your bank income. Do this and you will have a very long, if very dull and grindy, career - and without cheating.
Or you could just cheat and skip straight to the good parts![]()
I wish this game had more questionable content, like the option to make 2 girls one cup then get raided by the police and put in prison like in real life, or whatever the fuck the Japanese do in their porn, tentacles and pixels, scary stuff.Ohhhh, you were talking about that game. I thought they meant this game had hidden beastiality.
I started a new game to see if everything you both say was right and as far as i'm concerned, saying the game is impossible seems quite too much.So as you said, and I already find it out, its pretty bad for a management game. The curve of progression is AWFUL !!! And tutorial dont give the right hints to help you (like he is telling you to quickly open a company, when you are obviously not ready to do it).
As I said in a precedent post, cost of salaries are too high, and gap between lvl 2 girls and lvl 3 girls is terrible (3 times price to make a scene, for 1,5x money from movie).
So yeah, I try to play without cheats but its so long and so frustrating. This game would be a good management game with a few changes. But dev seems to dont care about !!!
One can do fine within about 6 months and just 1 studio. There's a bunch of save-scum strategies (such as save scum to see if their potential is too high - in which case, leave them alone until you can put them on contract), but I'm keeping my mouth shut to avoid them being de-cheesedI started a new game to see if everything you both say was right and as far as i'm concerned, saying the game is impossible seems quite too much.
The first months are very slow. But you need to get your stats at 100, and to understand the core gameplay. Yes you are poor, yes you have to recrute some cheap prostitutes all the time because everything is too expensive, yes you need to put the little staff you got on minimum wage and hope they accept, yes you need to distribute some good movies instead of publishing solo but ... You can clearly progress. On a slow management level game pace, but you progress. And the gameplay slowly change.
The game is clearly not beginer friendly. Too much info, and you do not know what is relevant. The guide on the blog is not that helpfull either. Even worst : some advices from 1 year ago are irrelevant now. And the dev is on a break so there are less people to actually help here.
My advice is : play it slow, very slow. Never overpay, always recruit some girl that do scenes for 100 bucks, and get only directors and maybe some security until you got 4 studios making low quality movies. Then you can start upgrade, recruting, very slowly. Get moderately decent actress, camshow, and start some easy to fill websites. At this moment only, recruit the "story girls".
Avoid for at least one if you two years the nightclub and strip club, ignore the mansion, ignore the rivals, give 0 contract, but do every possible request to get the all the money you can. Be ready to loose some reputation to keep your money, do not hesitate to get rid of staff, and always pay your actress minimum wage. Put the game on "very easy" to make all of above a little bit faster if you want.
The websites will at some point get you enough monthly incomes for you to play a bit more freely, but it is slow and you have ot be meticulous. Good luck !
You actually can skip most of the early game grind if you start with reputation level 2 (which really is level 1.5 x_X) and 50k extra cash perks. If you go all-in on contracts week 1 (More contracts perks, 100% company score, more contracts and higher photo studio policies on level 10 PAs) you can make your way to first million or so in three months without shooting a single low quality scene. Or any scene, for that matter. You can set it all up weeks 1 an 2, and make enough to pay all the bills before the end of the month.The first months are very slow. But you need to get your stats at 100, and to understand the core gameplay. Yes you are poor, yes you have to recrute some cheap prostitutes all the time because everything is too expensive, yes you need to put the little staff you got on minimum wage and hope they accept, yes you need to distribute some good movies instead of publishing solo but ...
Yeah I totally agree with your playstyle and I would add to get the carwash (30-50k per month) and to avoid recruit for a high price, right click on her, "call to office", speak to her and give her day off (even its illogical cause you didnt already recruit her). In tat way, your relationship is going better then you could more easily recruit her for minimum wage.My advice is : play it slow, very slow. Never overpay, always recruit some girl that do scenes for 100 bucks, and get only directors and maybe some security until you got 4 studios making low quality movies. Then you can start upgrade, recruting, very slowly. Get moderately decent actress, camshow, and start some easy to fill websites. At this moment only, recruit the "story girls".
Avoid for at least one if you two years the nightclub and strip club, ignore the mansion, ignore the rivals, give 0 contract, but do every possible request to get the all the money you can. Be ready to loose some reputation to keep your money, do not hesitate to get rid of staff, and always pay your actress minimum wage. Put the game on "very easy" to make all of above a little bit faster if you want.
The websites will at some point get you enough monthly incomes for you to play a bit more freely, but it is slow and you have ot be meticulous. Good luck !
Its pretty impressive, even I didnt understand how you did it !!! Depends a lot of bonus/malus you take at the beginning.BillieJeans said:You actually can skip most of the early game grind if you start with reputation level 2 (which really is level 1.5 x_X) and 50k extra cash perks. If you go all-in on contracts week 1 (More contracts perks, 100% company score, more contracts and higher photo studio policies on level 10 PAs) you can make your way to first million or so in three months without shooting a single low quality scene. Or any scene, for that matter. You can set it all up weeks 1 an 2, and make enough to pay all the bills before the end of the month.
I did it as a challenge run one day (reach the endgame without ever hiring a prostitute) and it turned out to be really good anyway. Nerfed in v0.84, but still works just fine.
Oh yes, three starting perks are absolutely necessary to start photo contracts day one (or, to be exact, day 7).Its pretty impressive, even I didnt understand how you did it !!! Depends a lot of bonus/malus you take at the beginning.
Thanks bro
So you disagree about the difficulty saying that it's easy but making very good arguments proving just how hard and unforgiven the game can be? gotcha... sure...While I disagree about the difficulty, I too cheat just to save time (i.e. use cheat engine to max my stats and then stick a few billion $ in the bank to fund everything off interest).
Or rather, the difficulty is a curve and it's easy to bite off more than one can chew. For example, even with sixteen girls assigned to the nightclub, a 100% marketing rating and a 100% service rating I'm still six months in and it has only just now started bringing literally any money - all while costing over $100K per month to operate. And since you can't sell it, this will absolutely break the bank for anyone who buys it before they're ready.
It's the same way with the strip joint and even just opening a studio. The full staff needed to make that transition will easily run over $50K per month, and if it isn't immediately making more than that then it's another financial waterfall leading to certain doom.
So far, camwhores have been the only start-up project that almost can't fail, and even then as new game iterations have arrived their tolerance for my "fair cut" has dropped from around 25% to 10% or less. Websites can be easy to run, too, and should be the next step after that. Quality won't be great but the fans aren't that demanding with that particular venture (i.e. just pick generic boy-girl and flood it with home movies).
Meaning that most people (who don't cheat) will be stuck making home movies with cheap hookers for, oh, two or three years before amassing enough cash to expand into other things safely & successfully. Mind that this method is reliable and it will pay all your bills and you will make a profit... just very, very slowly.
If you don't want to cheat you can still grind your way to success, however. The trick is to keep dumping all your profits into the bank and sucking up to the manager to get better and better returns. Eventually, once you're making enough off those returns to hire one employee, go ahead and so - and make sure that the person you hire is Jenny so that can stop wasting time & energy at the gym. Don't even think about expanding your staff or facilities in any way until their expenses are safely covered by your bank income. Do this and you will have a very long, if very dull and grindy, career - and without cheating.
Or you could just cheat and skip straight to the good parts![]()
Sorry that reading comprehension isn't your strong point.So you disagree about the difficulty saying that it's easy but making very good arguments proving just how hard and unforgiven the game can be? gotcha... sure...![]()
Ok its clear now. But I wonder if you play more than 6 months with this strategy ? Cause I guess while reaching lvl 3 of fame, because rivals steal girls, it could be hard for you no ? Or you make contract with girls (non porn contract ?) so you cant make movies later ???Oh yes, three starting perks are absolutely necessary to start photo contracts day one (or, to be exact, day 7).
Here's the full strat:
Start with following perks:
Start with $50k,
More work contracts,
Reputation lv 2 (the savefile screenshot comes from has Smooth Operator and Models spawn with higher levels on top of that; negative perks are Less agency models, Train thrice as slow, Recruiting males is harder, Can't shoot with models below level 3, Distributor deals are worse, all of which do nothing to hamper photo studio operations)
First week you need to:
hire 2 high level PAs and 1 high level marketer; they won't require any money up-front,
create company, buy photo studio,
recruit as many special characters as possible (with exploits you can recruit all except cops and twins in one day; in fact, I believe it's possible to recruit all 8 day one, but it's not necessary to make the strat work; you only truly need them when you start photo studio operations).
Make sure marketer is working on Company Marketing Score and handling social media for all special characters; Fame greatly increases model level, and this in turn helps with contracts (and greatly slows down retirement).
PAs are Production ("Photo studio money and reputation rewards are higher") and Right Hand ("More work contracts").
All of this has to be done by January 6th, so that as many contracts as possible are generated on the 7th. Between Photoshoots and model contracts you might have ~15 of them, and if you're lucky you'll get one or two that awards over 5k. If not, don't worry, your reputation level will soon go up and the contract rewards will improve, too.
Bonus points if you unlock car wash, too; bit of extra money comes really handy. Try to fill it with special characters early on, and random girls when you start shooting photos.
After all of this is done you need to:
hire photo studio crew,
buy equipment,
fill remaining photo studio slots and car wash with random girls
You'll need a loan to buy the best possible equipment week one - I took it, but I think you could do with worse equipment.
Anyway, by the end of January you'll have 4 rounds of contracts to complete and way more money than needed to pay all your bills - and then it only gets better.
The main issue with this start is that while it generates money relatively quickly and with little management (you only need to complete contracts once per in-game week), it leaves you with very few fans; that'll greatly slow down transition to websites.
Hope it cleared things up. I attached the savefile if you want to check it out (compressed because F95zone does not accept files without extensions x_X); it's day 5, with everything in place to complete first round of contracts.
Oh, and one more thing. There's a small glitch - work contracts tab will not be enabled on the 7th; you can, however, access the contracts from the properties menu; everything will fix itself after you completed the first one.
The longest I played like that was 8 months and I got to reputation 5; that was the end of the challenge run for me. It was in v0.83 with better model contracts (and those were really, REALLY exploitable).Ok its clear now. But I wonder if you play more than 6 months with this strategy ? Cause I guess while reaching lvl 3 of fame, because rivals steal girls, it could be hard for you no ? Or you make contract with girls (non porn contract ?) so you cant make movies later ???
1 : If i am correct, the lvl3 reputation "unlock" the rivals. It's quite normal to loose some girls at this stage (mandatory maybe), and the rivals can buy out a LOT of girls if ... they are too good. If most of your girls are still cheap prostitutes with low potential or fame, the rivals will ignore most of your girls.So, I've been playing this for a bit, and ran into a few items I could not find (good) answers to.
1) When I hit level 3, about 25% of my models were signed to contracts by rivals in a day. Next day, a couple more. Roughly 10 models in 2 days. Is this common? Are contracts the only way to prevent this?
2) When a model is signed by a rival, if you've assigned a marketer to raise her fame, the marketer continues to do so after they have been signed by the rival. I cannot find a way to reassign the marketer to a new porn star.
3) Does relationship have any impact on if a model will sign stick around (not sign with a rival), or contract cost? For example, if you make someone a girlfriend, do they still sign with a rival? Besides chemistry bonus, what does the relationship stat do?
4) What use does the dungeon have?