Others Porn Empire [v0.91] [PEdev]

[Icebird]

You gonna need 10k for office, 5k for photoshoot, so i would say, try to keep having 10k in reserve, keep buying stuff when you won't go below that. I prefer to use as good equipment in photo studio as i can afford, preferably 80 or 100 quality, so i can reliably do photo work contracts. I would say about 60-70k?, you can get loan though, rest is kinda RNG, but consider such approach:
- train your inteligence and fitness, get laptop from store
- use that to get some cheap prostitutes, do a bit porn with them, so you have spare money, use distributor contracts for max money, fans don't matter that much at this point yet,
- get as much special characters you can, especially those 3 from last post, also blonde in the bar, both from the beach, gym girl too, put them all into photoshot, DON'T DO PORN with them yet, so they slowly get fame and do scenes with prostitutes in meantime
- if you already have photo shot and few special characters, get 50k loan for 2 months, it will allow to buy good camera and lighting for your photo studio, get some cheap director (doesn't matter, really, lvl 1 is ok for now) and marketer
- keep repeating scenes with prostitutes and work contracts for photos, events and if possible, anonymous porn requests (ignore geo requests for now) until those 3 mentioned in post above have like 20 fame and you have 2 stars reputation
- get admin, start cams, put your lvl 2 models into cams, keep grinding until you can afford contracts for your camgirls or until you pay first loan, take next loan, give them contracts, with contracts they'll be working for 25+ days a month
- get a few PA so you can get some related bonuses
- profit

That's how it looks for me usually, whether to take loan or not, depends on rng from contracts, you can as well keep it easy and not take loan at all, just give yourself more time. Just don't do porn with those you put into photo studio or cams, you will do much later on, when they're famous, or not, make them GFs or whatever, your call. With that, you should be able to have cams set and running in ~3 months, depends on RNG really.

And just a note, again, don't rush into porn, especially with special characters, porn far is more profitable when you have profesional studio with high end staff, equipment and famous girls. Though it's required early on, just think about it that it's necessity, you just want to get some money to start photo/cams, that will cover you day-to-day operation for few months, with surplus money allowing you to expand into professional porn. Also you need a lot of fans for it to be worth it.

Also, if you find random girls with Blue Balls perk, they're a good candidate for forever camgirl too.

Cheers

I think the photo studio is completely skipable at starting the business. It isn't necessary to have at beginning, didn't bring passive income, and didn't helping much in the raising fames of the girls like if you put on a marketers advertising on them while they camming. But generate costs and expenses and require a director (and staff), a good equipment and very good models to be able to do work orders (you can get painful penalties for doing low quality work orders). So this shouldn't be priority here, only get when affordable to your budget. IMO alternatively if you have 5k surplus starting with a studioroom, putting existing equipment there, hiring the worst director, and doing upcoming shooting there manually. This way you get rid of amateur video penalty on videos, and scheluding solos for the cheapest models likely makes some profit even publishing on porntube too.
For me the photostudio means a pool of girls with high appearances and almost zero likeliness to do other things or doesn't fit in any other position, but there can gain some fans passively.
And two important thing is missing from your useful summary: if you hasn't a really reason with them (like having high potential) it isn't really worth using girls with low beauty to photoshoot, and with low beauty and sex skill to camshow (they just wasting resources for almost nothing in return). Secondly the advertising the key how fast you can earn money, fame and reputation, and how much. (Keeping webaddmins efficiency and camshows advertising near 100% brings the max profit out from this, makes camgirls more famous and happier too what means they will work more and earn more)
Also taking out loan is dangerous in this stage (opening the company), advised to do more work orders instead if you really need some surplus cash in your hand (IMO). If you can afford advertising a littlebit on company also can helps to get more and accomplishable orders with a little better payouts and/or conditions.

 

[macadam]

wip
take shroom or two and go for a stroll around the city

sound just like real life ... XD

 

[macadam]

wip
take shroom or two and go for a stroll around the city

oookay, it's alots of shrooms to take LOL... But, now i have some small shitty questions... obviously :/

- is the effect really permanent? (like girls like this will spawn continuously now? or it go back to normal after some time ?
- does the recruited girls stay like this too? or they go back to normal after a moment ?



i dont know, but i suppose it require some cure to go back to normal (player character/game effect)...

It's cool tho, i prefer this version of the game, it's soo random XD

 

[mbmb]

oookay, it's alots of shrooms to take LOL... But, now i have some small shitty questions... obviously :/

- is the effect really permanent? (like girls like this will spawn continuously now? or it go back to normal after some time ?
- does the recruited girls stay like this too? or they go back to normal after a moment ?



i dont know, but i suppose it require some cure to go back to normal (player character/game effect)...

It's cool tho, i prefer this version of the game, it's soo random XD

i think above 5g is permanent until you restart the game
otherwise it's few hours

 

[macadam]

i think above 5g is permanent until you restart the game
otherwise it's few hours

what do you mean by 5g? like 5 grammes?

i tried to take around 20 shroom, effect dissapeared after a moment... but maybe it's a conflict/bug with some events or something.

it pretty cool that it affect every NPCs, including the specials one like cops, hotel-con, girl at beach etc.. definitly make the game way more fun for me.

 

[chopeks]

I think the photo studio is completely skipable at starting the business. It isn't necessary to have at beginning, didn't bring passive income, and didn't helping much in the raising fames of the girls like if you put on a marketers advertising on them while they camming. But generate costs and expenses and require a director (and staff), a good equipment and very good models to be able to do work orders (you can get painful penalties for doing low quality work orders). So this shouldn't be priority here, only get when affordable to your budget. IMO alternatively if you have 5k surplus starting with a studioroom, putting existing equipment there, hiring the worst director, and doing upcoming shooting there manually. This way you get rid of amateur video penalty on videos, and scheluding solos for the cheapest models likely makes some profit even publishing on porntube too.
For me the photostudio means a pool of girls with high appearances and almost zero likeliness to do other things or doesn't fit in any other position, but there can gain some fans passively.
And two important thing is missing from your useful summary: if you hasn't a really reason with them (like having high potential) it isn't really worth using girls with low beauty to photoshoot, and with low beauty and sex skill to camshow (they just wasting resources for almost nothing in return). Secondly the advertising the key how fast you can earn money, fame and reputation, and how much. (Keeping webaddmins efficiency and camshows advertising near 100% brings the max profit out from this, makes camgirls more famous and happier too what means they will work more and earn more)
Also taking out loan is dangerous in this stage (opening the company), advised to do more work orders instead if you really need some surplus cash in your hand (IMO). If you can afford advertising a littlebit on company also can helps to get more and accomplishable orders with a little better payouts and/or conditions.

Sure it's skippable, I didn't say my way is the only way, probably not the best, just shared what works for me. However, Photo studio with 100/100 equipment helps a lot early on nevertheless, for me at least, photo orders in combination with hostess work orders allows rep 2 by mid march. Ofc marketer targeting company is a plus too. Sure, you can skip it and go cams early on, why the hell not, only downside would be lack of contracts, because it's highly likely you'll have rep 1. I just tend to start with photo studio early on, just keeping all special characters (they're all good early on, so you don't need to be picky for work orders), building fame, and counting on RNG Jesus to roll some highly paying contracts. I also tend to pick Right Hand PA with more work orders just for that.

As for model stats, I was talking in my post exclusively about 'how to start, and not bankrupt too early', and that's easiest leveraging whatever special characters you have (least RNG dependent), same goes for taking loans, this is ofc risky, but if you're using special characters, they're kind of predictable, so you after few restarts you know how much they gonna make on cams.

For 4 special characters that you can contract on rep lvl 2 you can say how much they gonna be making on cams, I'm gonna attach a pic below from end of April. They're all on non-porn, 6-12mo contracts. This looks very similar for each restart I do. With such income, if you have them all by end of March, there's not really any risk in taking loan (but in March/April, earlier it's risky and RNG dependend).

For random characters stats and traits do matter, but if you're new to the game, it's best to have at least some passive income early on, so you can experiment on your own.

And it's completely possible to use same equipment and staff between porn studios and photo studios (do pics contracts on sundays, or after they end shoting a scene). Personally for me it's too much clicking and I'd forget about it, but sure, go for it.

Also, https://f95zone.to/threads/porn-empire-v0-9-pedev.2857/post-12223161

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[mbmb]

what do you mean by 5g? like 5 grammes?

i tried to take around 20 shroom, effect dissapeared after a moment... but maybe it's a conflict/bug with some events or something.

it pretty cool that it affect every NPCs, including the specials one like cops, hotel-con, girl at beach etc.. definitly make the game way more fun for me.

it's been a long time. so i've tried and it's 5 times to last it for a few hours and 10 to make it perma.
it's just a stupid "secret". there isnt much to it.

 

[mbmb]

Sure it's skippable, I didn't say my way is the only way, probably not the best, just shared what works for me. However, Photo studio with 100/100 equipment helps a lot early on nevertheless, for me at least, photo orders in combination with hostess work orders allows rep 2 by mid march. Ofc marketer targeting company is a plus too. Sure, you can skip it and go cams early on, why the hell not, only downside would be lack of contracts, because it's highly likely you'll have rep 1. I just tend to start with photo studio early on, just keeping all special characters (they're all good early on, so you don't need to be picky for work orders), building fame, and counting on RNG Jesus to roll some highly paying contracts. I also tend to pick Right Hand PA with more work orders just for that.

As for model stats, I was talking in my post exclusively about 'how to start, and not bankrupt too early', and that's easiest leveraging whatever special characters you have (least RNG dependent), same goes for taking loans, this is ofc risky, but if you're using special characters, they're kind of predictable, so you after few restarts you know how much they gonna make on cams.

For 4 special characters that you can contract on rep lvl 2 you can say how much they gonna be making on cams, I'm gonna attach a pic below from end of April. They're all on non-porn, 6-12mo contracts. This looks very similar for each restart I do. With such income, if you have them all by end of March, there's not really any risk in taking loan (but in March/April, earlier it's risky and RNG dependend).

For random characters stats and traits do matter, but if you're new to the game, it's best to have at least some passive income early on, so you can experiment on your own.

And it's completely possible to use same equipment and staff between porn studios and photo studios (do pics contracts on sundays, or after they end shoting a scene). Personally for me it's too much clicking and I'd forget about it, but sure, go for it.

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special girls are way too god for camgirls holy shit
more i nerf them, more they earn

 

[macadam]

it's been a long time. so i've tried and it's 5 times to last it for a few hours and 10 to make it perma.
it's just a stupid "secret". there isnt much to it.

mmh then i think there is a small bug/conflict with some events, because it stopped completly after a moment while i used 20... i get to hotel cosplay-con, got the cops at studio (first time they come) and the storage control from the taxe girl. maybe one of this make conflict with it.

as stupid as it is, i really like it . nothing better than recruiting nice elves, twy'lek (i dont know exactly the name of theses lol) and angels then suddently see a tall fat orc girl poping out XD

 

[chopeks]

special girls are way too god for camgirls holy shit
more i nerf them, more they earn

If you ask me, Maya and Ananya are kinda specialized for cams looking at their traits, so I would leave them as is, but if you're looking for ideas:
- force player to build their depravity first, let them start with 0 and give them that trait, that makes them earn depravity slower,
- introduce new trait that makes it even slower for special girls
- make them appear later, they're both available at the beginning of the game
- leave them contract able at rep 2
That would kinda make it a bit harder to set up them for cams, but it will be worth it. ATM it's no effort for these 2 to get them going. On the other hand, random girls, even with maxed out beauty and sex work as much as potential allows don't produce that much money (pics) compared to specials.

This is kind of done with both police women, as they're available much later... but they can be offered contract on rep 2, which makes them kinda on pair with Maya and Ananya. Rest of the special girls are contract able at lvl 3, so if you really want to put them into cams full time, that can happen around end May.

Here's state from 29th May, PA partly specialized for cams. All girls have already surgery bonus, and have weekly +3 happines bonus from beauty center. Admin & Marketing 100%. Eg. those 2 with ~400 earning barelly cover their contracts worth, with markup like ~30%, not even counting marketing and admins cost.

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[mbmb]

If you ask me, Maya and Ananya are kinda specialized for cams looking at their traits, so I would leave them as is, but if you're looking for ideas:
- force player to build their depravity first, let them start with 0 and give them that trait, that makes them earn depravity slower,
- introduce new trait that makes it even slower for special girls
- make them appear later, they're both available at the beginning of the game
- leave them contract able at rep 2
That would kinda make it a bit harder to set up them for cams, but it will be worth it. ATM it's no effort for these 2 to get them going. On the other hand, random girls, even with maxed out beauty and sex work as much as potential allows don't produce that much money (pics) compared to specials.

This is kind of done with both police women, as they're available much later... but they can be offered contract on rep 2, which makes them kinda on pair with Maya and Ananya. Rest of the special girls are contract able at lvl 3, so if you really want to put them into cams full time, that can happen around end May.

Here's state from 29th May, PA partly specialized for cams. All girls have already surgery bonus, and have weekly +3 happines bonus from beauty center. Admin & Marketing 100%. Eg. those 2 with ~400 earning barelly cover their contracts worth, with markup like ~30%, not even counting marketing and admins cost.

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just remembered you're probably playing dev1.6 which is before i did some changes on camgirls
i mean, all the stuff still apply. i think i've made fame more important than anything else. also harder to keep it high.

problem with cams is that if you know what you're doing it's insta win. but lowering the values would make them unusable for those who dont minmax.
well at least there's harder difficulties which also influence cams earnings if one wants some challenge.

 

[chopeks]

just remembered you're probably playing dev1.6 which is before i did some changes on camgirls
i mean, all the stuff still apply. i think i've made fame lot more important than anything else. also harder to keep it high.

problem with cams is that if you know what you're doing it's insta win. but lowering the values would make them unusable for those who dont minmax.
well at least there's harder difficulties which also influence cams earnings if one wants some challenge.

Yes, dev1.6 indeed, and it is as you speak, without minmaxing there's barelly any profit from cams outside of special girls, even on easiest difficulty. At least first few months, because minmax takes time. That's why i suggested, if you're tweaking it, that it should be rather harder (longer) to achieve profit with special girls here, rather than tinkering with numbers alone, which could backfire on random girls, which already (if you're not save scumming for perfect rolls) require investment in training, surgery and time spent to build depravity and fame. Using existing game mechanics, that could be probably granted by trait. Start with 0 depravity + slower depravity gain for them? New trait? Maybe that's what are you looking for

 

[Icebird]

For 4 special characters that you can contract on rep lvl 2 you can say how much they gonna be making on cams, I'm gonna attach a pic below from end of April. They're all on non-porn, 6-12mo contracts.

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Just another thought (I hope I understand right what you wrote, otherwise ignore this): why sign contracts with someones who have a 'loyal' trait and do camming (all spec chick have this atm)? They never be leave your company and go to rivals, and if you hype them over the 5-6lvl and 80+ fame they absolutely won't go retire too. Keeping them happy makes them ethernal companions (without frankly spend a least 20k sum on each with contracting them with non-porn option only).
So it's about boosting they happiness to 'Elated'?

 

[chopeks]

Just another thought (I hope I understand right what you wrote, otherwise ignore this): why sign contracts with someones who have a 'loyal' trait and do camming (all spec chick have this atm)? They never be leave your company and go to rivals, and if you hype them over the 5-6lvl and 80+ fame they absolutely won't go retire too. Keeping them happy makes them ethernal companions (without frankly spend a least 20k sum on each with contracting them with non-porn option only).

If you make contract with them, they'll be rarely be unavailable, thus working 25+ days a month. It's not about rivals, it's about daily income. Say, you give them contract for 12mo, that would set you back let's say, 30k. for simplicity, they'll be camming 300 days a year (25d a month), earning 2k a day, that's 600k a year, so... 570k profit. Now, second case, no contract, girl's gonna be here for few days, then gone for few days, say, she's avaliable half time at most, that's 300k profit, and a slot in cam not working for you full time. Slots are limited. Not even counting marketing and admins, which you have to pay, whether girl works or not, that only makes the gap bigger. Contracts make cams worth it.

 

[DrLizardman]

Do the cops still offer bonuses when hired as staff or should I make them girls? I always like the option for Dillion to be "my gf" even if that option does nothing lol. Hopefully there will be/is a new girls list for the recent update since all the perks and some of the stories changed.

 

[Botoy]

I hope the game dev adds orgy

 

[chopeks]

Do the cops still offer bonuses when hired as staff or should I make them girls? I always like the option for Dillion to be "my gf" even if that option does nothing lol. Hopefully there will be/is a new girls list for the recent update since all the perks and some of the stories changed.

In 0.9-dev1.6 that doesn't matter, you get bonus regardless the option you choose, it seems to be reward for completing story. Not sure about GF option, never tried it, but you can make any girl or staff your GF, no? Atm best option seems to make them all working girls, there's really no benefit getting them as staff. Shame, you can't recruit car wash girl too, but storywise that's understandable.

 

[ElCativo1988]

Yes, dev1.6 indeed, and it is as you speak, without minmaxing there's barelly any profit from cams outside of special girls, even on easiest difficulty. At least first few months, because minmax takes time. That's why i suggested, if you're tweaking it, that it should be rather harder (longer) to achieve profit with special girls here, rather than tinkering with numbers alone, which could backfire on random girls, which already (if you're not save scumming for perfect rolls) require investment in training, surgery and time spent to build depravity and fame. Using existing game mechanics, that could be probably granted by trait. Start with 0 depravity + slower depravity gain for them? New trait? Maybe that's what are you looking for

I play on normal and currently have 12 cam girls who earn 350k a month. That's definitely a good win. Of course with the strip club I earn significantly more at 618k. But at the cam show there is also significantly more space while in the strip club all the seats are occupied.

Okay, you wrote without min maxing, yes, that's true. At times it's worth simply taking 100%Cut, even without a contract, and you'll make a profit without investing. Even if they only stream 3 times a month. Maybe we should change that so that the girls run away or something. Because why should they put up with that?

 

[legendppk]

legendppk: writes a PhD dissertation on how to easily make money with camgirls and discloses distinct information not normally privy with the general public

F95 community: judging from your post, you must be a new player

Also F95 community: how to make money with camgirls? halp!

 

[Sharinel]

legendppk: writes a PhD dissertation on how to easily make money with camgirls and discloses distinct information not normally privy with the general public

Ask for it to be linked from the first post so that people can see it easier? I know that I keep downloading the game and never playing it as A. The graphics do nothing for me and B. The first couple of weeks just spiral down into bankruptcy. These sort of breakdowns would be great if sufficiently highlighted