Frederiksc

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[...] sisters, or even twins - and you know that would rake in the big bucks if you can get them into a FFM scene.
If I would code it myself, you would have a small twin system tomorrow :)
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To ease the implementation, start with a very rare tag "twin", before crafting an elaborate tracking system for relatives. Let both NPC spawn together (location event coding, needs space for 2 NPC) or design an event to "meet" the other twin (copy the social butterfly event, replace the NPCs and alter text).

Coding time for elaborate relative tracking: ~ 3 weeks.
Coding time for tag "twin" and no elaborate relative tracking: ~6 hours.

Hints for coding:
Add an array for relatives containing all IDs of relatives to the NPC object (table). When tagging the scene, do a "for each ID in relatives" to check for the twin present in the scene, set a temp varable to true. After you checked all NPCs in the scene, remove the all twin tags. If this temp variable is true (found the other related twin) add a tag "twins" (notice the S) once, which is the money multiplier and final tag.

So you can have -3- twins unrelated to each other without granting the money bonus and you have a clean FFFM tagging without a clutter with additional -3- twin tags in the scene. In scenes you filter for "twins" (both related present) in the actor field you search for "twin", so you find the possible matches.
 

Soliloquay

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Maybe it was discussed,but in 0.78 i have a bug:when shooting scenes via studios i cant use option(Take a look inside)within certain room.So i cant watch scheduled scenes(I click on button(take a look inside)but nothing happens).It happens when i start new game or load my 0.78 saved games.But when i load 0.77 saved games,all is OK.
 
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the_fake

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IIRC only Boy-girl scenes can be seen in rooms other than bedroom. So FFM, MMF, Gangbang etc only in standard bedroom studio. Haven't checked this in latest update tho.
 

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I still can't remeet Diana at diamond shop... there is a condition I should know (i bought the car and stuff like that, except the yatch). ?
 

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Its a pretty nice game I like it but issues are there like when you have every room to make a video and renting out the hotel room the cancel button isn't there like its under but can't scroll so unreachable, it isn't that much of big deal just thought i should mention it if it hasn't been also i have question, How do i delete a website? because I sometimes mess up and create ones without a name or just a comma or dot and it kinda loses its immersion for me:LOL::LOL: Great Game tho love it!!!
 

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Apologies if I've missed it, because I have had a look but still can't find anything - is there an up to date Mac version knocking about?
 

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i appreciate your listening to our complaints, bitches and whatnot.. it shows me you are closely involved and watching how we feel.

let me now give you some praise and crits since i have played for a week or so on this version

more girl variety.. never a bad thing...although some stats are way off for some things a street walker with a 0 in sex skill isnt real realistic.. small potatoes in reality

money for operating expenses , .. i think i finally figured it out.. nice bonus at end of month when subscribers pay for website content

not being able to delete a web site once created.. especially if you want to change it or you screw up your idea.. should be easily added, or i cant find out how to do it

random occurrence of STD's .. totally overdone clear up one event and no sex 5 hours laters pops again.. please cut it out or limit it some

someone mentioned the GF button...i liked it... allows you to hook up with one or more people and have random sex when you want. it can also mean free scenes if you film with your partner

dislike: girls who only do solo or photos not being able to be fucked.. library chick fucked her in library recruited her and snap shes pregnant doing cam shows but im not able to fuck her again.. bosses should be able to blackmail his talent for sex lmao. all these hoes should be fuckable off cam... wether or not good or bad happens from it you can add lol

i do find it increasingly difficult and annoying trying to figure out which girls do what once you get a stable going... id like to see it when you select a scene type solo or boy girl whatever only those models that are available and will do those scenes show up for casting

also can we put agency models in a different tab away from the main girls the list is hard enough to figure out might make it a bit easier

i could add more but im just venting a bit thanks for reading and if you do fix any of this its appreciated
 
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Its a pretty nice game I like it but issues are there like when you have every room to make a video and renting out the hotel room the cancel button isn't there like its under but can't scroll so unreachable, it isn't that much of big deal just thought i should mention it if it hasn't been also i have question, How do i delete a website? because I sometimes mess up and create ones without a name or just a comma or dot and it kinda loses its immersion for me:LOL::LOL: Great Game tho love it!!!
i've fixed that one already.
i dont think you can delete them. i'll make a delete button.
you should be able to rename them by clicking on the name when selected.

Apologies if I've missed it, because I have had a look but still can't find anything - is there an up to date Mac version knocking about?
someone just have to share it

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i appreciate your listening to our complaints, bitches and whatnot.. it shows me you are closely involved and watching how we feel.

let me now give you some praise and crits since i have played for a week or so on this version

more girl variety.. never a bad thing...although some stats are way off for some things a street walker with a 0 in sex skill isnt real realistic.. small potatoes in reality

money for operating expenses , .. i think i finally figured it out.. nice bonus at end of month when subscribers pay for website content

not being able to delete a web site once created.. especially if you want to change it or you screw up your idea.. should be easily added, or i cant find out how to do it

random occurrence of STD's .. totally overdone clear up one event and no sex 5 hours laters pops again.. please cut it out or limit it some

someone mentioned the GF button...i liked it... allows you to hook up with one or more people and have random sex when you want. it can also mean free scenes if you film with your partner

dislike: girls who only do solo or photos not being able to be fucked.. library chick fucked her in library recruited her and snap shes pregnant doing cam shows but im not able to fuck her again.. bosses should be able to blackmail his talent for sex lmao. all these hoes should be fuckable off cam... wether or not good or bad happens from it you can add lol

i do find it increasingly difficult and annoying trying to figure out which girls do what once you get a stable going... id like to see it when you select a scene type solo or boy girl whatever only those models that are available and will do those scenes show up for casting

also can we put agency models in a different tab away from the main girls the list is hard enough to figure out might make it a bit easier

i could add more but im just venting a bit thanks for reading and if you do fix any of this its appreciated
stats are randomly rolled and street girls are low tier hookers. it happens that they roll low sex skill. not realistic i know.

i'll make a delete button. you should be able to rename them by clicking on the name while selected.

i've already toned down the stds. high chance is only when fucking an already infected person and having no medical advisor.
you can't get randomly get infected, for everyone else the chance is 1%.
there's 1 day delay before you get notified that you're infected. if you fuck during that period there might be a bug of sorts that triggers stds twice. i'll look into it.

yea i'll change that. having a gf will solve the problem.

girls who don't want to shoot a specific scene or are unavailable are excluded from the production list.
everyone is shown at the home office list tho. i'm guessing here you want some filters?

theres a checkbox top left corner on the list "show agency". uncheck and it will hide agency models.

add more then
 
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What am I missing? Apparently the discussion is about a 0.78d dev version, but I can only find links for a 0.78b version.

Can someone tell me please, where to get the newest version?
 
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mecha_froggy

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Found a bug in 78d: If you hire a model who is already pregnant (i.e. from the hospital), you will still get stuck paying child support once she gives birth. This may or may not be because I have the Genghis Khan trait (which removes all options except paying support), but I felt that I should mention it anyway.

Also, not a bug but an annoyance - any randomly spawned NPC who has either Photomodel or Camgirl will only have likes in Photos or Solo, respectively. Yes, they'll have 100% in those but 0% in everything else. This actually makes them worse choices than simply rolling the dice until you can land a girl with 80%+ naturally, because those girls will still be able to do other stuff on the side. That is particularly important because CamGirl popularity appears to only increase when they do regular, PornTube videos released to the general public (same as any other model). Result being that your random girls that you train yourself to be CamGirls ultimately have far, far more potential to earn money than those who are cursed by starting with it (since the ones that start with it will never do any videos of any kind with anyone, ever).

In fact, my new long-term strategy is to assign a max level PA to Talent Search and making the traits they look for be Solo & Boy-Girl. This will still have really good odds (70+) and land me girls that 1) bone myself and publish to raise their popularity and 2) put them on CamGirl duty while I wait for their happiness to build back up to 100% before the next round.

Question: If I have a company (and pay taxes like an honest person) and never publish any hidden camera videos, do I really need a Lawyer for anything?
 
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Suggestion: New PA job type, Accountant.

Instead of a flat 5%, change bank deposit interest rate to equal the skill level of your accountant. So no accountant, no free money, but at max level 10 you are now making 10% per year.

Also reduces company overhead by 2.5% per level as well. This means reduced month expenses for owned offices, studios and - most importantly - websites. So at max level you'd save 25% per month on these currently flat-rate expenses.


Suggestion: New PA job types, Trainers.

Remember back when Lena raised Sex Stats for your models? Same idea, but now done differently. One trainer class per skill of Fitness (Jenny's old job), Intelligence and Sex (Lena's old job). New titles for Coach, Tutor and Therapist, respectively. Each trainer has a 1% chance per trainer level per day of raising the respective stat of all your models by 1 point, up to their Potential limit. While that's only 10% per day for even a top level PA, it still shouldn't take more than six months to a year to max out every model's Potential. While that may be more expensive, in the long run, than conventional training the perk here is that it doesn't take them out of action while they're improving. They'll still be available for photos, films, etc, while still leveling up their skills.


Suggestion: New equipment class, Servers.

Just as there are five grades of cameras and lighting, so why not have the mall offer five grades of computer servers in progressive levels of expense and power? Better servers would allow higher levels of Network Quality (and the options that unlocks) without having to carpet bomb your staff list with twenty fucking webmasters (like, seriously?) Each level increases your NQ by 10%, so shelling out the $250K (or whatever) for the top tier model would take you straight to 50% by itself. Larger short-term cost but much cheaper in the long run due to reduced staff needs.

Suggestion: Online recruitment.

Each 10% of Network Quality increases the odds of your PA put on Talent Search to find a suitable model by 2.5%, so a max level system would make their jobs easier by 25% because now the girls are coming to you and applying online to join your company.

Suggestion: Different drug types.

Blow/Cocaine - Already in the game, continues to increase Chemistry by giving the girl more energy. Expensive, $100 per hit. High chance of addiction.

Crack/Yep, Crack - "Because only in America could there be some asshole who thought that cocaine just wasn't good enough." But it's way cheaper than coke, similar effects in that it increases Chemistry (but not as much as coke does) and is way cheaper ($10 per hit). Even more addictive (second only to heroin) and lowers Fitness and Beauty over time, same as Meth (see below).

Weed/Marijuana - Lowers a girl's chemistry for the day but also increases her happiness by 10%. Cheap, $20 per hit. Good for getting them back into action faster. Low chance of addicton.

Ecstasy/MDMA - Increases a girl's Likes by 25% across the board for the day, allowing her to do scene types that she normally wouldn't. Cheap, $20 per hit but has high chance of addiction.

Junk/Heroin - "Why would you do this?" As above, but increases her like by 50% because now she doesn't care anymore and will do anything you ask. Downside is Chemistry per scene drops 10%, addiction is all but automatic (90% chance per hit). Also permanently drops Fitness by 1 point per hit (at zero they die). But hey, it's cheap - $10 per hit because you're buying the cut crap.

Booze/Alcohol - At least it's legal (no chance of police action). Increases likes by 10% but also reduces Chemistry by 10%, and increases her Happiness by 5%. Very cheap, only $5 per "hit" (you're not buying the good stuff, here) and addiction is... interesting. Starts off almost zero but odds increase with each consecutive day of use. In other words, be sure to let your girls dry out livers once in a while unless you want to turn them into permanent alcoholics.

Meth/Methamphetamines - Again, "Why would you do this?" Like coke, but cheaper, increases Chemistry per scene ("so much energy!") and for only $10 per hit (you buy the really crappy stuff). Highly addictive and every ten hits taken lowers both their Fitness and Beauty stats by 1 point each (and again, they can die if their Fitness hits zero).

Suggestion: Add in new a Addiction mechanic as well.

First, an Addict has a specific thing (or things) that they're hooked on. Every day they require one dose of whatever that is to be functional, otherwise penalties are incurred (see below).

Second, add your drug stockpile ("stash") into a window that can be easily accessed. So long as you have the drugs that an addict needs, their per-scene cost drops by 25% for that day because you're feeding their habit for free (well, free for them). The downside is that if you can't meet this need of theirs then their Happiness only recovers at half normal speed (because they're paying out their own pockets and thus don't feel very motivated to do porn stuff after working eight hours at their day job to feed their habits). Also, bigger stashes tend to attract cops. You have been warned! (but remember, booze and weed are legal in most places, so if you stick with that then you shouldn't have issues).

Third, models can be addicted to more than one thing and their effects are cumulative. Ergo, that street whore who is addicted to booze, blow and heroin will do their scenes for only 25% the normal rate if you can provide them with all three that day. Of course when your stash runs out they're only recovering Happiness at 1/6th normal speed, so don't expect them to be particularly productive. But again, for the truly scummy, having a stash of cheap, highly addictive drugs (booze, heroin, crack and meth) and you're basically getting your street whore to work for (almost) free - and they'll be so high that their scenes might actually come out halfway decent... at least until they die of overdoes.

Rehab must now be done per addiction, so fixing up these troubled ladies of the night might prove rather costly and time consuming for those more philanthropic types.

Suggestion: Staff buildings.

For example, a Staff Cafeteria (raises Happiness recovery rates), a Medical Office (increases Medical Advisor effectiveness and lowers the cost of medical related actions), Employee Lounge (just like the cafeteria, raises Happiness recovery), Day Care Center (lowers child support costs), Post Production Facility (increases editing time but also increases overall quality of the final product), Reading Lounge (1% chance per day of a random model gaining 1 point of Intelligence or Sex Skill), Swimming Pool (this has a 1% chance per day of a random model gaining 1 point of Fitness - yes there is already one in the game; maybe they can be merged?), Employee Housing (rooms assigned at the staff & model info screens - can be built multiple times). All big investments, $10K+ each, but long term gains as well.

Employee Housing I think needs more explanation. What you do when you purchase this is buy one room in a nearby area (apartment, condo, house, whatever). You then select the level that you wish to purchase, up to level 5. You now have one room that can be assigned to any staff member or model. When assigned, their salary or per scene costs drop 5% per quality level of the domicile, up to 25%. The building itself will probably cost you at least $10K per level, but if you're playing for the long haul, this can actually save you money - especially with top tier models and max level staff members. Overall upkeep should be fairly low (you're only paying taxes now, since you own the property) to make this sort of investment worthwhile. Upkeep is also subject to Accountant cost reduction perks, as above. About $500 per year per quality level per room is about fair (so $2500 per year per level 5 room), and is still far below what you'd actually save in salary expenses (especially considering your average level 10 staff costs you over $3000 per month and top tier models often charge you over $2000 per scene).
 
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Suggestion: "A Household Name."

This would be an end-game solution to marketing, because right now marketing basically means carpet bombing your staff list with 20 marketing agents (dude, seriously?) until you get to max 100%. The upkeep of this team of professional bullshitters is so high that unless you're cranking out a dozen movies a day it is ultimately self-defeating and, ultimately, not worth it. However, there is a solution and most of it already in game.

In addition to marketing you also have company reputation. So let's expand upon that some more. Marketing is now a short term value that is determined by how much you're spending on marketing and how many marketing weasels you employ. Company reputation should have all the same perks as marketing but be a permanent stat, independent of the marketing score. In other words, marketing is how much your blitzing on advertising while company reputation is your stone foundation, old fashioned name recognition in the public conscience. As now, having a high marketing rating allows you to perform special (expensive) actions to gain company reputation. Great, we will leave that alone.

All we need to change is this: When calculation marketing into things, such as how well a video is received or how many fans a website gains per month, the games uses your Marketing score and your Company Reputation, combined.

Now what does that really change? In the short run, nothing - you still needs marketing guys and you still need to throw money at it to get that score high enough to unlock the special actions that increase your company reputation, same as now. However, once you've got your company reputation as high as you want it (which is to say, max, because why wouldn't you want it maxed?) then you can throttle back, nay, toss out all the marketing agents and advertising expenses. Yes, your combined total of 200% will slowly wither away back to just 100% from your Company Reputation, but so what? You're a household name, now, and maybe you really just don't feel like dealing with all that extra overhead just to keep your score artificially inflated beyond the 100% mark.

Thus, a company that is successful over a long period of time can gain the perks of marketing without having to spend an eternal fortune on it unto infinity. After all, when was the last time you saw an ad for PornHub? Because why bother, right? Everyone knows who they are, so they don't need to advertise anymore. They're a brand name as well known as Reynold's Wrap - there is nothing left for them to prove. They've maxed their Company Reputation and are enjoying the long-term, permanent rewards of that.
 

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need to change shit around camgirls and photomodels, coz they're going to be exclusive for that job.
so yea, fame. my solution is having personal marketing campaigns to quickly raise their fame and of course gradually increasing it with streaming time and all that.

i've been also thinking of accountant for some time. even made some placeholder events for them already. so i'll probably include them sooner or later.

managers will get bonuses that special chicks had. including the training bonuses.

servers, ok. not a bad idea. you dont need 20 admins tho. 10 max levels for 100% efficiency. still a lot yea.

i've already have different type of drugs created for some time now. havent come around to finish it's effects and all.
now you reminded me of them and maybe i'll do something now.
same with addictions, also had in mind stacking them up to create free of charge drug fiends

household name. that's a long writeup for what i can do with 1 line of code lol. make sense, we'll try it out in next dev. i'll make 50% of marketing score to come from reputation. so in the end you'd need 5 maxed marketers to reach 100%. even less with the right manager.
 

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Not sure if CamGirls should be excluded from everything else. There's quite a few cam real-life CamGirls there who regularly do side-shows of normal porn. Heck, this even shows up over in Summertime Saga with Jenny's audience throwing more money at her if she actually fucks someone live on camera.

Which brings me to this proposal: CamGirls can still do other stuff still but it has to be live, which means that the production studio would not be able to keep an actual video afterward (because that's the whole point - luring people in with tickets to see something exclusive that won't be recorded for later viewing).

Mechanics wise, the production would still generate money like normal (use distributor lump sum for revenue) but, as always, you have to split that money with the CamGirl at whatever rate she normally works at. Furthermore, your company doesn't get new fans - she does. Which is to say, the production directly boosts her popularity based on how much that livestream matches your fanbase (so more fans in those catagories = more popularity gain for the girl, using the same mechanics for how regular published videos boost a girl's popularity already in the game).

Thus, it's not something you do for direct profit (because it actually earns you less than a regular video) but rather the more long-term gain of having a more famous CamGirl on your staff who brings in more views with her regular stuff each day.

Oh, and since she's getting paid via her cut of the video, there should be no cost to having her do the scene. Her commission is whatever she gets from her fans, so it doesn't come out of your own wallet.


Now as for Photomodels, yes I can see them being exclusive because that's a role for girls who just don't want to do real porn to begin with - they get to tell themselves that they're still respectable at the end of the day and all that. So no problem there. Though making the photostudio completely automated may not be necessary, provided that the issue gets fixed where PAs who are assigned to Production never actually send girls to do photos in the photostudio (Did I forget to mention that bug? Well, now I did.)


The marketing/reputation thing you mentioned wasn't what I really had in mind. When I say your marketing score is based Reputation or Marketing, whichever is higher, I mean exactly that. Marketing is raised quicker and easier by spamming marketing agents, which then unlocks opportunities to boost your Reputation - that's what we have now and it's great like that. What I was saying was just that a company with a perfect 100 reputation no longer needs a dozen marketing agents. If their Marketing score falls below their Reputation it's not a big deal because, again, we use whichever is higher as the actual rating for Marketing calculation (i.e. video revenue, etc). Thus the company that has become a household name (like PornHub) no longer has to waste money on marketing to get their brand out there.


While I'm here, I'd like to mention another bug (78d): PAs assigned to Talent Search seem to be completely ignoring whatever parameters that I tell them. For example, I'll say "Latina, Teen, Boy-Girl" and even with a level 10 PA when the new recruit office scene pops up it will be some Asian MILF who refuses to do anything but Solo work or something. The only time I've ever had them actually bring in what I asked for was when I asked for a CamGirl... which they did do... after about five tries... and they still ignored everything else on my wishlist.

Not sure if bug or design: Marketing staff can only be hired through the employment agency. Alice is literally the only NPC out in the world who spawns as a (potential) marketing employee. I find that odd.


Tweak Request: Have studios stop spending two hours in prep and two more doing make-up. One hour for each is enough, thanks. I say this because I'd like to open the door for studios to be able to do two films per day. I mean, for the amount we have to pay these jerks (in what country does a Set Decorator rake in almost $1000 a week and how do I get in on this racket?) they can at least put in more than 4 hours per day, sheesh. Two shoots per studio, 4 hours each - 10am to 2pm then a second one until 6pm. Much better, I think.
 

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Please allow contracts to be renegotiated sooner than in the last week when they run out.
 
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mecha_froggy

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Slight bug in 0.79 Dev1: It is possessed by demons!

First, .exe does not show the Godot icon.
Second, it is actually smaller than previous 0.78 stable, which makes no sense.
Third, nothing happens when clicked.
Fourth, the file deletes itself after thirty seconds even if left untouched. :oops:

I tried running a virus scan on it, but again since the file vaporizes itself so quickly it was gone before the scan could even finish.

So... yeah... might want to pull that one back down for now. I'm doing a rootkit scan on my drive now because that shit was too weird not to.
 
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