Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

If Drew had shown up instead of Hunter, I think Drew would've had an easier time seducing the house. Given her natural charms, Drew probably wouldn't have needed any help from drugs. She seems to have high empathy, and authentically cares about others (even as she's trying to sleep with them), which would've made them open up to her the same way they do for Sterling. And given most (all?) of the girls bisexual tendencies, Drew is literally "the best of both worlds" and appeals to their sexual fantasies.

I can imagine a scenario where all the girls would've joined Drew's harem of their own free will, while Sterling remained a scrawny weakling. Having realized that Drew was not evil and all the girls were happy, Sterling would eventually accept the new status quo. At some point, perhaps based on her own view of the Dio Del Sesso tradition, Drew might've encouraged Sterling to have sex with the girls in order to impregnate them (since Drew can't) and pass on the DDS genes. Drew doesn't seem possessive to me, so I think she would've allowed it.

 

[HiP1]

Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.

the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.

 

[storm1105]

the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.



Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.

If the idea was to prepare Orphelia for biggeer dicks it still doesn't make sense. He could have had one modeled after him or simply bought one and the growth hormones wouldn't be something to get passed down like that. Plus it would be super irrelevant as Hunter could just get t them pregnant

I really can't think of any other logic for Hunter's actions other than he was helping Sterling.

 

[SuddenReal]

I can't really think of any ways hunter could use it as black mail material and it wouldn't make sense to get it to Ophelia anonymously if that was the case. And if Hunter was going to use it as blackmail material I can't think of a reason why he didn't.

Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.

 

[storm1105]

Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.

It wasn't one of the bulletin points though and it happened before Hunter deemed sterling as a threat. If it was actual blackmail he would have used it. There's no real logical explanation other than to get Ophelia more open to the idea of having sex with Sterling.

 

[HiP1]

If the idea was to prepare Orphelia for biggeer dicks it still doesn't make sense. He could have had one modeled after him or simply bought one and the growth hormones wouldn't be something to get passed down like that. Plus it would be super irrelevant as Hunter could just get t them pregnant

I really can't think of any other logic for Hunter's actions other than he was helping Sterling.

or just increasing Ophelia sex drive in addition to the drugs and aphrodisiacs. as the dildo looks exactly like a real dick instead of a generic toy. or just for the chaos it would create. when she found out the truth about the dildo, it didn't really help MC.

 

[Mr. Chatty]

Hunter actually trained him, until at some point he realized that Sterling is not like Hunter or Drew, Hunter initially showed him how to seduce women and other things, when Sterling returned home, and immediately realized that Sterling was a threat to Hunter and interfered with his plans. after all, this is a confrontation, since Sterling's father lost, then Sterling can protect the family... now the question is, will he keep the harem without Hunter? I think yes, at some point we see all the women’s love for Sterling, since Ophelia already knows who her son is fucking with, this is already a good sign even without Hunter’s drugs.
Hunter just pushed them more into the intimacy that he wanted for himself, and of course Sterling got them, he was in the right place at the right time and prevented debauchery... then it will be interesting what kind of fun awaits us

Hunter couldn't preach his ways to sterling, he's too good a person to go that route, no matter what, is hunter your ideal?

 

[HiP1]

Hunter couldn't preach his ways to sterling, he's too good a person to go that route, no matter what, is hunter your ideal?

he is not that good of a person at all. he did and push for the things he confronted hunter with. he only stays away from the extreme stuff. he still fucks his whole family and profited massively from the drugs, let's not kid ourselves there

 

[storm1105]

or just increasing Ophelia sex drive in addition to the drugs and aphrodisiacs. as the dildo looks exactly like a real dick instead of a generic toy. or just for the chaos it would create. when she found out the truth about the dildo, it didn't really help MC.

You can find plenty of dildos that look like a real dick and giving her a dildo wouldnt have increased it anymore than the drugs. She admitted the fact it was modeled after sterling's turned her on. It seems obvious that Hunter was helping Sterling seduce the house and pretty much every other explanation for a of his actions including the growth hormones seem like stretches.

 

[SuddenReal]

It seems obvious that Hunter was helping Sterling seduce the house and pretty much every other explanation for a of his actions including the growth hormones seem like stretches.

Now, I'm not saying that Sterling didn't benefit from everything Hunter did (because that's obvious), but Hunter did NOT do that to help Sterling. He did it to reap the benefits himself. Hunter only cares about himself. He may have reached out to Sterling at the start, but Sterling turned him down. So to think that Hunter would still help Sterling after he refused, that's a stretch. Everything that happened was to help Hunter. Sterling just happened to benefit from it instead.

 

[storm1105]

Now, I'm not saying that Sterling didn't benefit from everything Hunter did (because that's obvious), but Hunter did NOT do that to help Sterling. He did it to reap the benefits himself. Hunter only cares about himself. He may have reached out to Sterling at the start, but Sterling turned him down. So to think that Hunter would still help Sterling after he refused, that's a stretch. Everything that happened was to help Hunter. Sterling just happened to benefit from it instead.

I feel like you missed the whole point of the conversation. The idea is that Hunter wants Sterling to succeed him as Dio Del Sesso. He didn't care that Sterling turned him down because at that point he still believed that he could be won over, that's why he gave Sterling growth hormones, gave orphelia the dildo. He wants Sterling to succeed at seducing the house then Hunter can win Sterling over and they can both share the harem. It was only later on that Hunter realized that wasn't going to happen which is why he invited Drew. Yes, Hunter was trying to help Sterling because Sterling successfully seducing the house helps him.

 

[SuddenReal]

I feel like you missed the whole point of the conversation.

Oh, I didn't. In fact, this conversation has been going on for a very long time now, ever since we found out about the Dio Del Sesso. But Hunter never wanted Sterling to become the next Dio Del Sesso once Sterling turned him down. After all, Sterling made it very clear he wouldn't let Hunter near any of the women. So, why would Hunter help him seduce everyone if he can't reap the benefits (because the plan was always that Hunter would fuck everyone)? Hunter knew he wouldn't be able to win Sterling over, because even in the early chapters he is dismissive and arrogant towards Sterling. That's why I said he saw a cuck-in-waiting in Sterling, because Hunter considers himself the alpha while Sterling is far beneath him.

And again, the dildo you seem so focussed on is so Hunter could go "see? It was all Sterling's plan. After all, he gave you a dildo molded after his own penis! What kind of pervert does that?".

 

[dartred]

The way i saw it, is that Hunter was helping Sterling, because he had something to gain from it too. He thought he could mold Sterling to be the next Dio Del Sesso and get to partake in the women. That's why he practically sculpted Sterling into a greek living statue.

By the time he made Sterling into what he is now, it was too late. He didn't see Sterling as a threat until he kept getting injured and life was put at risk.

That said, he did somewhat want to help Sterling. He would be happy if Sterling took over for him. That's what he wants. Only if Sterling would share though. That's why we didn't see him actually start killing people until this last chapter, when he fully realized that there was no convincing Sterling and Sterling is more of an obstacle.

 

[storm1105]

Oh, I didn't. In fact, this conversation has been going on for a very long time now, ever since we found out about the Dio Del Sesso. But Hunter never wanted Sterling to become the next Dio Del Sesso once Sterling turned him down. After all, Sterling made it very clear he wouldn't let Hunter near any of the women. So, why would Hunter help him seduce everyone if he can't reap the benefits (because the plan was always that Hunter would fuck everyone)? Hunter knew he wouldn't be able to win Sterling over, because even in the early chapters he is dismissive and arrogant towards Sterling. That's why I said he saw a cuck-in-waiting in Sterling, because Hunter considers himself the alpha while Sterling is far beneath him.

And again, the dildo you seem so focussed on is so Hunter could go "see? It was all Sterling's plan. After all, he gave you a dildo molded after his own penis! What kind of pervert does that?".

The dildoo thing was a small part of the evidence. The growth Hormone thing was the main part as once more that makes no sense unless we are assuming he was trying to help him out. I dont know why you guys are against the idea that Hunter wanted Sterling to succed him with it's the most obvious answer. Hunter is not just going to say Sterling said no that's it. Sterling also said he wasn't attracted to any of them in chapter 1. That's why the whole thing started. Hunter never told Sterling about the Dio Del Sesso thing, he only found that out after reading David's journal. What Hunter did is ask if Sterling was attracted to any of them and propose they work together to seduce the house. Sterling already changed his mind about his attraction to his family, it's not a stretch at all to believe that Hunter thought he could convince Sterling if he just pushed a little more.


Thinking that Hunter would just give up on turning Sterling over just because he said no once is silly. He's already proven that he can change Sterling's mind about some things. And if his goal was to make Sterling the next Dio Del Sesso he completely succeeded and the only thing he failed at was convincing Sterling to share. So far I have not heard a single good alternative answer from either of you about the dildo thing or the growth hormones it just seems like you guys can't believe Hunter would ever help sterling at anything so you are automatically ruling that out. I also don't really think Hunter was that dissmisive of Sterling at the start of the game. It was more that he was critizing Sterling's seduction techniques and he did actually care about Sterling getting hurt in the earlier chapters as opposed to the later ones.

 

[fidgetspinner]

Only if Sterling would share though.

This is the perfect commentary on the state of F95. If only we would collectively learn envy and jealousy won't bring us joy. Let us share the bounty and revel in the fact everyone can have their desires fulfilled.

 

[slaanesh strongest sextoy]

It will contain "roommates" like PV. What it won't contain is NTR.

I'm curious about how things gonna play out. The voting on Patreon suggested that the NTR public is pretty heavy on him, i think he may will create a "what if" for this game too, for the sake of not losing so many people, or maybe will continue expanding the what if of PV through voting.

Also, incest is a biiiiiig player on the porn game market, is really hard to make a good game be noticed without it. Or this "roommates" will be the classic shit that you can turn off with a incest patch, or he is gonna really dare.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I think two things can be true at the same time, i.e. Hunter wanted to help himself and help Sterling. It's arguable that helping Sterling serves Hunter's goals in the short and long terms: the short being that Sterling can break the incest taboo more easily than Hunter since he's more attractive, and once broken it might become easier for Hunter to get laid also; the long being the often mentioned Dio del Sesso legacy, which I still think Hunter cares about.

Another factor we might be forgetting is that Hunter is also using Sterling as a performer for the dark web sex streams, which are immensely profitable. That's yet another way in which helping Sterling is also Hunter helping himself.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Another factor we might be forgetting is that Hunter is also using Sterling as a performer for the dark web sex streams, which are immensely profitable. That's yet another way in which helping Sterling is also Hunter helping himself.

Hunter, after his death, will record everything in a video where he talks about how his dark web sex stream made more money thanks to Sterling, Not a bad plan

 

[dartred]

Huh, that could be a failsafe for Hunter too. That every recording he has ever made of them will be uploaded to the internet unless he stops it manually every day. In case of his untimely death. Even if he dies by say heart attack without Sterlings interference. It won't be his problem to deal with anymore, he's dead.

He could use that as leverage against Sterling to stay alive longer. Until Sterling finds where to stop the upload. It's probably to late to introduce something like that anyways.

 

[Dmob_6438]

That said, he did somewhat want to help Sterling. He would be happy if Sterling took over for him. That's what he wants. Only if Sterling would share though. That's why we didn't see him actually start killing people until this last chapter, when he fully realized that there was no convincing Sterling and Sterling is more of an obstacle.

I mean I feel like Sterling is already the DDS and he doesn’t know it yet. I mean him and Drew both care about the family and he got Catherine pregnant just like what Hunter wanted to do. Also we all know sterling is never gonna share the girls, like we’ve seen it in the What ifs and we‘ve seen it throughout the Bad Endings and through each chapter. He’s not gonna let no one get with the girls not even Drew Tbh I wouldn’t mind if the dev did a sharing ending but I think it’s too late to do so.

Another factor we might be forgetting is that Hunter is also using Sterling as a performer for the dark web sex streams, which are immensely profitable. That's yet another way in which helping Sterling is also Hunter helping himself.

Oh man I almost forgot about the dark web streams, I do think that could be a big play in chapter 13, I see it going two ways either Hunter will use those recordings to blackmail Sterling and the family or Hunter could be petty and just upload them anonymously just out of spite cuz Sterling and Drew foiled his planned