Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Allen Watson]

can anyone tell me what scene is that from ophelia ntr night which people are using as a gif in this thread i cant find it

 

[DD69-1]

And he hasn't said anything about the size of the complete update. It goes both ways. At least we know the size of the updates will be the size of at least the What-Ifs. Which brings me to my following point...

He'll probably put characters that are tied in to each other in the same update (such as Tiff and her mom). But now that we know that the size of the updates will be at least a What-If, we'll get enough content for each girl. If it's all in bulk, it's a lot more tempting to make one of the minor girls a footnote. Now at least they'll get a dedicated update

Let's see man, I'm very hopeful since these would be the vanilla ends, so expectations are high, I may sub back if after chapter 13 there is no NTR content. That's why was curious to know how many epilogues he had planned

(although I don't think Rachita will be in it, unless WWG can link her with someone else).

They should still be bigger than what ifs. what ifs were made in roughly 2 weeks and with a main game being made at the same time.

These new Vanilla epilogues will be 4 to 5 weeks of development time and be focused on by themselves. this should in theory make them at least twice in size of the longest what ifs.

I really hope what you're saying is true, because as of now we don't know the amount of epilogues he has planned, if it's more than 6, I'll be happy. Thanks for answering

 

[SuddenReal]

The scene seems more like a bad ending?

Allow me to reiterate what I said about five hundred pages ago.

Dude! Eileen is a big NO-NO! If Sterling would ever stick his dick in Eileen, Brenna will cut it off and stuff it so far up his ass he's giving himself a blowjob! Remember what she did.

Obviously it's a bad ending.

 

[Taylan13]

And probably the end of the return of the old Hunter (unless of course it's a woman with a gun), although the hand looks a little dark skin

That skin looks pretty damn smooth for the old hunter. I'd rather bet that the young Hunter shows his true colors in that scene and what we all already know, that he's the old hunter... yeah, no idea how he managed to stay so young, I hear you.

 

[Alexbt]

SO,THE last 7% need a month

 

[FoolishFool0]

The hand doesn't seem to be Hunter's, but at the same time the hand and choice of clothing do not seem to be Drew nor Brenna either, the only two other people who might be involved here.

I don't think that's young man hunter either, the hand still seems bigger compared to the one in his previous teasers, maybe Kevin? But Kevin is now Buff Kevin, and he, like, is literally the LEAST involved character with this pairing, and it still wouldn't explain the clothes.

OK here's my theories.

A) The Mysterious Veterinarian/Doctor Partner of Hunter, the one who provides him the drugs, here to recover the various canisters he lent Hunter and finding Sterling in the shed, thus needing to put him down to avoid being discovered. If we ascribe to the "Hunter's partner is the Nurse Rachida's Husband because he mentioned him when talking about Starling's Vaginoplasty in the Force Fem Bad Ending" it would also explain the choice of clothing, and he would also have a further reason to want Sterling's dead since he is probably a subscriber of Hunter's stream and watched Sterling fuck his wife while affected by the drugs he had provided Hunter.

B) Same as option A but Eileen is actively trying to get a hold of the drugs herself, and this is all a ploy to get him to show her where they are. Why? Maybe she's working with the doctor, maybe she wants to start her own meth empire on a RV in the Nevada desert and she needs the goods, maybe she wants to drug the whole family in retaliation for what Brenna did to her and then out them as incest freaks, anyway essentially the same as Option A but she is not a casualty in this and she's actively engineering the situation.

C) Uh... Sean maybe?

 

[lipe2410]

SterlingxEileen is literally, if i'm not mistaken, the only scene with Sterling to won a last chance pool. All others were girlxgirl scenes and ntr scenes. Turn this unique scene in another bad end leading to ntr in chapter already full of bad ends/ntr scenes will be simply a fucked up asshole move to all non-ntr players who wanted see a scene with Eileen.
Don't like be that guy, but sometimes seen the previews seems like the one who will get less scenes and less sex in this final chapter will be just Sterling, the canon harem owner. How ironic.

 

[dartred]

^at the very least, it's not an NTR scene. WWG always labels the teasers NTR when they will be.

 

[Only1P]

SterlingxEileen is literally, if i'm not mistaken, the only scene with Sterling to won a last chance pool. All others were girlxgirl scenes and ntr scenes. Turn this unique scene in another bad end leading to ntr in chapter already full of bad ends/ntr scenes will be simply a fucked up asshole move to all non-ntr players who wanted see a scene with Eileen.
Don't like be that guy, but sometimes seen the previews seems like the one who will get less scenes and less sex in this final chapter will be just Sterling, the canon harem owner. How ironic.

Thats why I cancelled my subscription, after dev said bad endings are going to cover around 40%-50% of Ch 13, I was one of the few who pledged money to support the development of the content of the actual main part of the game, but the demand is just too big and the focus had to shift so of course its going to affect the identity of the game to match the demands of most of the people who finance it, But on the bright side Sterling is gonna appear in around 4-5 scenes which are all threesomes-foursomes according to teasers so at least we get that ig

 

[Fayn Arawn]

The hand doesn't seem to be Hunter's, but at the same time the hand and choice of clothing do not seem to be Drew nor Brenna either, the only two other people who might be involved here.

I don't think that's young man hunter either, the hand still seems bigger compared to the one in his previous teasers, maybe Kevin? But Kevin is now Buff Kevin, and he, like, is literally the LEAST involved character with this pairing, and it still wouldn't explain the clothes.

OK here's my theories.

A) The Mysterious Veterinarian/Doctor Partner of Hunter, the one who provides him the drugs, here to recover the various canisters he lent Hunter and finding Sterling in the shed, thus needing to put him down to avoid being discovered. If we ascribe to the "Hunter's partner is the Nurse Rachida's Husband because he mentioned him when talking about Starling's Vaginoplasty in the Force Fem Bad Ending" it would also explain the choice of clothing, and he would also have a further reason to want Sterling's dead since he is probably a subscriber of Hunter's stream and watched Sterling fuck his wife while affected by the drugs he had provided Hunter.

B) Same as option A but Eileen is actively trying to get a hold of the drugs herself, and this is all a ploy to get him to show her where they are. Why? Maybe she's working with the doctor, maybe she wants to start her own meth empire on a RV in the Nevada desert and she needs the goods, maybe she wants to drug the whole family in retaliation for what Brenna did to her and then out them as incest freaks, anyway essentially the same as Option A but she is not a casualty in this and she's actively engineering the situation.

C) Uh... Sean maybe?

I like your theory "A". I was puzzled by the sleeve fabric but I could see it as a jacket worn by an affluent Indian man.

But there's another detail which has me stumped, and that is the gun itself, which appears to be the same weapon Sterling found in the safe. I don't think WWG would've just lazily reused the asset. How would the shooter have access to it?

 

[lipe2410]

But on the bright side Sterling is gonna have around 4-5 scenes which are all threesomes-foursomes according to teasers so at least we have that ig

Which kinda suchs imho since he barely start fuck Ophelia for real and not the game will already end but also all the remain SterlingxOphelia scenes will be group sex scenes. I lost a lot of faith in this game and in WWG after become clear how little content SterlingxOphelia will get in the end after a extremely long slowburn with her. It's literally: take fucking years for them fuck for the first but then after the first fuck simply rush all the releationship and already put them have 3-somes/4-somes/orgies with everyone else in a lightspeed. It's not good and not even makes sense story-wise but since they only start have sex literally in the third last chapter all the flesh out of their new relationship must be discharged to rush right to group sex.
Hell, even NLT whose all games end in a big ass orgy has the care and attention to give to their characters a fair number of solo scenes with the MC before reach that stage.

 

[dartred]

Which kinda suchs imho since he barely start fuck Ophelia for real and not the game will already end but also all the remain SterlingxOphelia scenes will be group sex scenes.

This happens in a lot of incest porn games. Once all the women get their sex scenes, the games tend to wrap up.

 

[lipe2410]

This happens in a lot of incest porn games. Once all the women get their sex scenes, the games tend to wrap up.

Which is why most porn games sucks in their ends and this unfortunately seems is taking the same road when could be different at last.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Which kinda suchs imho since he barely start fuck Ophelia for real and not the game will already end but also all the remain SterlingxOphelia scenes will be group sex scenes. I lost a lot of faith in this game and in WWG after become clear how little content SterlingxOphelia will get in the end after a extremely long slowburn with her. It's literally: take fucking years for them fuck for the first but then after the first fuck simply rush all the releationship and already put them have 3-somes/4-somes/orgies with everyone else in a lightspeed. It's not good and not even makes sense story-wise but since they only start have sex literally in the third last chapter all the flesh out of their new relationship must be discharged to rush right to group sex.

I can understand your disappointment, I also would've liked to see more Sterling x Ophelia scenes, but I disagree with you about it not making sense story-wise. This is not a story about romance, it's a story about people surrendering to lust and hedonist desires, and doing whatever feels good. Everyone wants to fuck everyone, why would they slow down and only have sex one-on-one? Wouldn't that be sort of selfish against the ones left out?

 

[lipe2410]

I can understand your disappointment, I also would've liked to see more Sterling x Ophelia scenes, but I disagree with you about it not making sense story-wise. This is not a story about romance, it's a story about people surrendering to lust and hedonist desires, and doing whatever feels good. Everyone wants to fuck everyone, why would they slow down and only have sex one-on-one? Wouldn't that be sort of selfish against the ones left out?

So how this makes sense story-wise? All denial and barriers Ophelia had towards Sterling simply doesn't exist towards anyone of the other characters because of? Sterling putting his cock inside Ophelia's pussy for the first time simply flip a switch inside her and she instantly has no issue in have sex with the other gilrs?
I'm not talking about romance. We can literally count in one hand the number of Sterling and Ophelia solo scenes before they starting the threesomes, and they are not even long and elaborate scenes. I'm talking about give more scenes to flesh out Sterling/Ophelia new relationship before they jump to threesomes.This could be possible if they didn't start have sex just in chapter 11 out of 13 OR if WWG simply made it more SterlingxOphelia scenes in ch. 12 to payoff the slowburn with Ophelia better but seems his efforts were clearly in another place.

 

[lipe2410]

Hey lipe2410 I'm going off topic. I see "Futher Education by Kvitravn Tales" in your signature. If you go to his patreon or suscribestar, you can see that he has so little support that I was surprised... To summarize, I'd like to ask you or whoever would like to answer: what is this developer doing wrong to have so little support?

I'm really surprised by the small number of paying subscribers he has, since the quality of the game doesn't seem bad at first glance.

Since is OT, i will reply to you in DM

 

[pinkie96]

Thats why I cancelled my subscription, after dev said bad endings are going to cover around 40%-50% of Ch 13

That was a joke made by me. WWG never said this.

SterlingxEileen is literally, if i'm not mistaken, the only scene with Sterling to won a last chance pool. All others were girlxgirl scenes and ntr scenes.

WWG said Sterling would be involved in the girl pairs. That includes

1. Ophelia and Keira
2. Kumiko and Flora (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)
3. Penny and Catherine
4. Tsukiko and Ophelia (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)

 

[Fayn Arawn]

So how this makes sense story-wise? All denial and barriers Ophelia had towards Sterling simply doesn't exist towards anyone of the other characters because of? Sterling putting his cock inside Ophelia's pussy for the first time simply flip a switch inside her and she instantly has no issue in have sex with the other gilrs?
I'm not talking about romance. We can literally count in one hand the number of Sterling and Ophelia solo scenes before they starting the threesomes, and they are not even long and elaborate scenes. I'm talking about give more scenes to flesh out Sterling/Ophelia new relationship before they jump to threesomes.This could be possible if they didn't start have sex just in chapter 11 out of 13 OR if WWG simply made it more SterlingxOphelia scenes in ch. 12 to payoff the slowburn with Ophelia better but seems his efforts were clearly in another place.

Again, I also wanted more Ophelia x Sterling scenes. It seems to me they probably had sex a number of times that weren't shown, when they talk about excuses and others suspecting etc. It would've been great to see a couple more of those scenes.

Ophelia already knew Sterling was fucking many other women, and Ophelia herself already had sexual experiences with some of them. Like almost all the women in this game, Ophelia is very open to sex with other women. It's barely an obstacle for her, compared to letting Sterling penetrate her vagina. So yes, fucking Sterling essentially flipped her switch. That was the ultimate taboo to her, and once broken, everything else came naturally and easily.

 

[lipe2410]

That was a joke made by me. WWG never said this.

WWG said Sterling would be involved in the girl pairs. That includes

1. Ophelia and Keira
2. Kumiko and Flora (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)
3. Penny and Catherine
4. Tsukiko and Ophelia (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)

Thanks for the info. And even thanks to show this Tsukiko x Ophelia pairing to show a scene between characters that not even interact once in the story untill now is doable but more scenes with characters who interact since ch. 1 (Ophelia and Sterling) is apparently a no-no.

 

[dartred]

Thanks for the info. And even thanks to show this Tsukiko x Ophelia pairing to show a scene between characters that not even interact once in the story untill now is doable but more scenes with characters who interact since ch. 1 (Ophelia and Sterling) is apparently a no-no.

You can't blame WWG for making scenes with characters that never interacted before. Those were suggested and voted for on his patreon. WWG even made a rule that Ophelia, Cath and Brenna could be used multiple times for Last Chance suggestions, unlike every other character.

He gave the community every opportunity to make more Ophelia if they wanted, but the community didn't vote for it. So again, WWG isn't to blame as he let it up to his members to decide what extra scenes we wanted.