Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Gwimmly]

And if you really had a great life you would'nt be here either you be out there on a adventure traveling, eating amazing food , getting laid all the time. but here you are judging us because we want results not excuses and our time is money .So if the Dev wants to continue to make money then give us what we want and if not then we will take our money else where. I'm sure if the numbers go down alot we will see results, as of right now he aint losing much if at all so he will continue to take as much time as he wants and laugh all the way to the bank at us.

Why do you guys keep saying "milking us" you guys aren't paying a dime lmao. You're all the same. Angry that you don't get what you want when you want. But you'll surely hit that download button when the time comes

 

[panzermaster]

Do we know the reason it's taking so long? More scenes? Writing? Dev is in depression? Last % status was 92% I think and the rest is always the writing

In my life I did many projects and many times when I thought I was close to be done with it... then I started to see problems so my first reflex was to correct those mistakes... and then I got better ideas how to improve so then I continue to work on it and then I realise I am nowhere near close to finish so I take more time despite the fact that I believe I was close to finish.

Many people have the same reflex and in this case. If WWG had this happne to him, I am more than happy to let him take time. Because I remember the flaws of the previous chapters and I would have been willing to take them later but with more content rather than now with those flaws. As I said previously :

I remember what if volume 8, and while I LOVED that what if, there is so many ways it could have been significantly better if it had more time. We could have seen more of Sterling trying to talk to Mallory and realised that she is only interested in Opehlia Now, that would have made a much more "alive" story then what we got, where Sterling just says that Mallory wants nothing to do with him. If we had seen that Sterling-Mallory discussion while Ophelia is breeding another girl and Stelring isn't aware of what is happening... Show don't tell is always more effective.

Or I remember Kevin NTR ending of chapter 12, and while it is good, it could have been significantly better if we had seen Sterling REACTS to Kevin taking both Brenna, Ophelia and Catherine. Because in the final products, we never see him learn that Ophelia got pregnant from Kevin. In this NTR ending it lacked a cuckold aspects.

More time of development on both of these would have made them significantly better. Now when I played what if volume 8 and chapter 12 for the first time, was I happy I got them sooner rather than later? sure... But Once I got them and I had an opportunity to play them, that "sooner" aspect is gone and now the focus is on what is NOT in the final products. Specifically the content that would have made these chapter much stronger in the long run.

 

[Gwimmly]

In my life I did many projects and many times when I thought I was close to be done with it... then I started to see problems so my first reflex was to correct those mistakes... and then I got better ideas how to improve so then I continue to work on it and then I realise I am nowhere near close to finish so I take more time despite the fact that I believe I was close to finish.

Many people have the same reflex and in this case. If WWG had this happne to him, I am more than happy to let him take time. Because I remember the flaws of the previous chapters and I would have been willing to take them later but with more content rather than now with those flaws. As I said previously :

I remember what if volume 8, and while I LOVED that what if, there is so many ways it could have been significantly better if it had more time. We could have seen more of Sterling trying to talk to Mallory and realised that she is only interested in Opehlia Now, that would have made a much more "alive" story then what we got, where Sterling just says that Mallory wants nothing to do with him. If we had seen that Sterling-Mallory discussion while Ophelia is breeding another girl and Stelring isn't aware of what is happening... Show don't tell is always more effective.

Or I remember Kevin NTR ending of chapter 12, and while it is good, it could have been significantly better if we had seen Sterling REACTS to Kevin taking both Brenna, Ophelia and Catherine. Because in the final products, we never see him learn that Ophelia got pregnant from Kevin. In this NTR ending it lacked a cuckold aspects.

More time of development on both of these would have made them significantly better. Now when I played what if volume 8 and chapter 12 for the first time, was I happy I got them sooner rather than later? sure... But Once I got them and I had an opportunity to play them, that "sooner" aspect is gone and now the focus is on what is NOT in the final products. Specifically the content that would have made these chapter much stronger in the long run.

What you're talking about kind of reminds me of the "mystery/hidden ntr" style that you see in alot of Japanese ntr games. The more you can get the MC involved withing the ntr scenario the better really. I've always wanted to see a variant version of the Sean harem what if 7 where Sterling would have already formed a strong loving(and somewhat physical?) relationship with the family. A version where he still goes back for his phone and sees what Hunter is up to, but Hunter doesn't give a shit and still coaches and trains Sean lol.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Lmao.

To all sane people, yes he's taking the piss.

Reminder that various fans on this forum will simply go over the same talking points:

- You can't complain if you don't subscribe to him
- He doesn't need to give reasons
- He can take as long as he likes
- The longer it takes the better it will be
- Why are you judging him so harshly he might really have had his leg eaten by a bear
- He has no obligation to explain anything
- Shit happens poor guy must be going through it
- I mean I will keep subscribing no matter what I just love him so much
- Its not abandoned
- Hes not milking us
- I'm happy that he posts a short vague update once or twice a quarter
- Actually I think he's one of the best devs

Etc.

This is now 4d advanced cuck porn where you pay a monthly fee to be denied seeing the cuck porn...

Anyone can complain, but there's a difference between disappointment and entitlement. People shouldn't expect sympathy just because they had to wait to get something for free.

The dev technically doesn't have to explain himself, but it's in his interest to do so. He's built up a lot of good will by being regularly communicative. Too many unexplained delays could result in a loss of subscribers, and reputational damage. It's up to each subscriber to decide where their threshold is to stop supporting, but trying to convince supporters that they should stop is a stupid pursuit of a Pyrrhic victory.

If we look at the trend of earlier releases, dev cycles have gotten longer and longer, but I think it's fair to say that the volume and quality of content increased in correlation. Anyone that appreciates the writing is hoping for a great ending, which puts more pressure on the dev to get it right. The visuals are probably 99% complete: we've had nearly 300 teaser pics and a handful of animations, far more than we ever got during a previous chapter's development.

Ignoring obvious hyperbole, one thing I will concede is: if the dev doesn't beat his latest estimate of a late July release, this game will earn a (temporary) "abandoned" tag, per this site's Game Uploading Rules:

Abandoned: used in the following cases:

• The developer states that the development has been permanently suspended.
• After 3 months of inactivity from the developer's public creator/crowdfunding accounts (Patreon, SS, etc), we will resolve special circumstances or scenarios on a case-by-case basis (no creator accounts, creators developing for free, Patreon accounts under review/ban).
• No game update has been released for an abnormally long period of time (>18 months).
• Game threads that are marked On-hold for over 6 months with no game update.
• Note: this prefix is only removed upon the release of a new update for purchase/download.

 

[pinkie96]

While I enjoy the NTR content I don't care for the Sterling suffering/witnessing aspect of it

 

[Gwimmly]

While I enjoy the NTR content I don't care for the Sterling suffering/witnessing aspect of it
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Hunter would like to disagree Pinkie

 

[pinkie96]

Hunter would like to disagree Pinkie

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[Massagecook01]

In my life I did many projects and many times when I thought I was close to be done with it... then I started to see problems so my first reflex was to correct those mistakes... and then I got better ideas how to improve so then I continue to work on it and then I realise I am nowhere near close to finish so I take more time despite the fact that I believe I was close to finish.

Many people have the same reflex and in this case. If WWG had this happne to him, I am more than happy to let him take time. Because I remember the flaws of the previous chapters and I would have been willing to take them later but with more content rather than now with those flaws. As I said previously :

I remember what if volume 8, and while I LOVED that what if, there is so many ways it could have been significantly better if it had more time. We could have seen more of Sterling trying to talk to Mallory and realised that she is only interested in Opehlia Now, that would have made a much more "alive" story then what we got, where Sterling just says that Mallory wants nothing to do with him. If we had seen that Sterling-Mallory discussion while Ophelia is breeding another girl and Stelring isn't aware of what is happening... Show don't tell is always more effective.

Or I remember Kevin NTR ending of chapter 12, and while it is good, it could have been significantly better if we had seen Sterling REACTS to Kevin taking both Brenna, Ophelia and Catherine. Because in the final products, we never see him learn that Ophelia got pregnant from Kevin. In this NTR ending it lacked a cuckold aspects.

More time of development on both of these would have made them significantly better. Now when I played what if volume 8 and chapter 12 for the first time, was I happy I got them sooner rather than later? sure... But Once I got them and I had an opportunity to play them, that "sooner" aspect is gone and now the focus is on what is NOT in the final products. Specifically the content that would have made these chapter much stronger in the long run.

All productions on AVN's no matter how large or how much story or how much graphics takes 1 year and 6 months at least right and we don't even know if we will see Jan 2026 because it's already been a year and a half and we still have no update. Can anybody be for sure and has inside information that the rest of us don't have or are yall going to say it sould be soon like always or I hope it's soon. And for the fella that said we don't pay maybe we did pay once in a blue moon but seen the lack or communication between us and the Dev and the sheer disregard of the fans, like we will never go anywhere and be faithful to a Dev no matter what they do. For too long Devs have been given Grace on their production times but it's in our hands to tell them get your shit together or we cut our funding ,Until then they get to have free reign and continue to act like they do without a care in the world for us.

 

[yunmaster]

I loved how Sterling looked when this game first came out. It's so terminator-like and gross now.

 

[Gwimmly]

I loved how Sterling looked when this game first came out. It's so terminator-like and gross now.

He's uncuckable now. But then again so is Hunter Jr. it seems

 

[SuddenReal]

And for the fella that said we don't pay maybe we did pay once in a blue moon but seen the lack or communication between us and the Dev and the sheer disregard of the fans, like we will never go anywhere and be faithful to a Dev no matter what they do.

But still demand the product, though...

Whatever happened to a proper boycot?

 

[stella vermillion]

The update has not been released because they eliminated hunter, these are the consequences

 

[acehigh]

But still demand the product, though...

Whatever happened to a proper boycot?

No backbone is what prevents that. Therefore, WWG could hold this release off for another 6 months regardless of Abandoned tag or not, and it'd still get all the simps nips diamond-hard and happy as a clam raving over an insanely pushed back update just like nothing ever happened, Circle of life for the raw-handed

 

[Negan22]

I play completed games only for a reason, the few games that I played before their completion are either a shitstorm or updates take forever.

But this thread is a double edged sword because this thread was already in a kinda shitstorm because of NTR/anti ntr and now the update is also delayed.

 

[uscmiller22]

If the release date is pushed out, I hope he clarifies the situation at least two weeks in advance.

Whatever difficulty he had at initially, there was no need for him to conceal it just to expose it in a later post when he wanted to move the date forward again. This makes him appear really dishonest.

And that's not even counting all of the development updates leading up to the stated March release date.
What was he talking about in those dev updates when he claimed 70%, 83%, 93%, blah-blah-blah? What was he completing? Has he altered anything? Is he redoing anything?

He isn't a new developer. He has been working on this for very long. He must understand how dishonest this all looks for him.

"This makes him appear really dishonest"

You new here? He's been a liar for a long while, this isn't new lol. He's been done with the game, but he's smart enough to know he can keep milking the fanboys for longer before he "retires" after this release. Hell even when he announces that half these simps will continue paying him.

 

[pinkie96]

 

[Snugglepuff]

you complain on other forums too.

What forums outside of F95 are you stalking him on?

 

[acehigh]

And when the update does come out, no one is going to care about this anymore, we'll have other topics to "simp" over (or complain about).

Hit the nail on the head for the free players. Not to mention many of the Patreon supporters either don't even remember their log in or reset information to cancel even if they wanted to or just forgot about Patreon altogether. This is a never-ending circle, so what are we really doing? ICSTOR could drop an update today for Milfy City, and the years of bickering and despise would magically wash away and applaud would be given, while people simultaneously begin posting in-game tips or walkthrough questions like nothing ever happened.

And I even think I posted in there about how when the game was made, one of my boys was in like 2nd or 3rd grade, and that very same boy is graduating high school and on his way to college with no game completion. But watch an update drop and everyone would get amnesia.

 

[elbo911]

Here come the usual simps desperately coping because they continue to give hundreds of dollars to a scam artist. Has to hurt that while you guys continue to cope, you have to see the realists here be continually right about delays. Going to be so funny coming back to this thread when everything I predicted plays out exactly lol.

As you were quoting me: Your first sentence already is based on a wrong assumption, as I'm no patron of WWG's neither have I ever been. And that's all you do, making claims and assumptions.
I wanna read info and opinions about the game here, not the propaganda of conspiracy theorists. I'm not a fan of blocking people as to me that is the equivalent of covering my ears and singing la la la, but I guess that's the only measure left. That shit is beneath me, so have a good time spitting your acid into the void.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

If WWG did have surgery I hope he has a speedy recovery but I just don't buy it.

My "conspiracy theory" is he burned out again, It happened to him in the past and posted about it but this update cycle has gone on too long for another woe is me excuse so he pulled out the medical issue card.