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You're wrong. Sterling doesn't get pumped full of hormones until several chapters in after he's independently showed sexual interest in the girls which only happens because he found out about Hunter and is running defense.

Hunter intended the girls to be his and then to sway Sterling into sharing after he found out Sterling was also interested. The same happened for Drew. Hunter didn't groom Drew to take over the mantle until Drew stole panties which Hunter misinterpreted as Drew being interested.

In Sean's what if Sterling never discovers Hunter, never runs defense, and therefore is never sexual with the girls. Hunter with nothing in his way quickly gets wit the girls within 2 weeks.
I never said he gets pumped full of hormones at the beginning I said Hunter still tries to go out of his way to get Sterling to his side. He would have never jut completley ignored him regardless of whether Sterling agreed or discovered hunter on his own or not. Hunter leaves Sterling alone in that what if because patron asked for a what if where that's what happened
 

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Do you make these or are they from the game?
YES, these are taken right from the game or the what-if. I have a few of them prepared with assets made by other fans that I will release eventually (I don't want to saturate it now).

THe challenge is to have a picture where you can see both the body AND the faces of the two characters, but also they need to not be naked. Sexy clothing is acceptable but no nipples, boobs or penis must be visible.

And this is much more difficult than it seems because clear shot of two characters face and body that can bypass the censorship in this game, there is not that many. This is not an attack on WWW, making shot reverse shots is good for narratives but in this case, it's not what I am looking for and what I need to make them.
 

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Wow... so many arguments that I don't even understand who is talking about what except I see the same "Sterling is better!" "No, Kevin is better!" :HideThePain: :HideThePain:

I'm not usually a fan of ntr, I'm sure everyone already knows, but reading the comments I think Strom is overreacting to some things... Dude, if it was like you want it to be, the game wouldn't have the atmosphere that Sterling gives us, like dumb moments, awkward moments and bad decisions...

We've said a hundred times why Sterling initially got hormone growth... like I said earlier Hunter underestimated his grandson just like Drew underestimated his nephew, these two enemies have it in their blood to corrupt all the girls and then arrange it as they please and share, while Sterling turned out to be a protector of the family who wants to protect them from the wrong ones and does not share but suddenly also turns out to be drawn into debauchery thanks to Hunter... You say it doesn't make sense? The answer has been given many times, as I said above, Sterling has made it clear that he will not allow others to touch his women... otherwise all this fun would not have happened if Sterling had given in easily and allowed...
but Hunter thought that Sterling would fall under his influence like it happened with Drew or anyone else where they could set up and fuck the family together...
now that Hunter failed to drag Sterling to his side, he will take revenge, get rid of Sterling so easily? Not an option, he just wants to personally show him how he fucks his family... that's the whole point of hero vs antagonist

The whole point of Ntr and Canon is that, ntr all the women are no longer yours, you are already missed your chance dude, don't try to look for why women act like that not in canon, because it's pornlogic!
And canon is a slow start, the story of Sterling and his becoming an alpha with his stupid ideas but interesting plot...

Never look for logic in a porn game, you're playing a sitcom comedy incest: Do what the robot tells you or don't, it's that simple. And enjoy :HideThePain:
 
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YES, these are taken right from the game or the what-if. I have a few of them prepared with assets made by other fans that I will release eventually (I don't want to saturate it now).

THe challenge is to have a picture where you can see both the body AND the faces of the two characters, but also they need to not be naked. Sexy clothing is acceptable but no nipples, boobs or penis must be visible.

And this is much more difficult than it seems because clear shot of two characters face and body that can bypass the censorship in this game, there is not that many. This is not an attack on WWW, making shot reverse shots is good for narratives but in this case, it's not what I am looking for and what I need to make them.
The resemblance to the characters is pretty good until they turn their heads. Is there a way for the AI to use both front and side profile shots for reference to produce a more consistent result?
 
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The resemblance to the characters is pretty good until they turn their heads. Is there a way for the AI to use both front and side profile shots for reference to produce a more consistent result?
Not that I am aware of but even if it was possible, it would probably not be available on the free plan, and even with that plan I had to make a LOT of efforts just to avoid risking my credit card (something I am not willing to do for just a few short videos).
 
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Wow... so many arguments that I don't even understand who is talking about what except I see the same "Sterling is better!" "No, Kevin is better!" :HideThePain: :HideThePain:

Nobody here was arguing over whether sterling was better or Kevin was better. It's that the ntr endings are canon in an alternative universe even though we've been told their not.

I'm not usually a fan of ntr, I'm sure everyone already knows, but reading the comments I think Strom is overreacting to some things... Dude, if it was like you want it to be, the game wouldn't have the atmosphere that Sterling gives us, like dumb moments, awkward moments and bad decisions...

I'm not really sure what you think "I want the game to be" but I really don't want any changes and I don't really get what your actually trying to say. I think this is a good example of why you shouldnt butt into a conversation i you don't know what peple are talking about because I have no idea what you're actually trying to say.
 

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I'm sure you have said this before, forgive me for asking again, but please, will the version coming out this month be the last version of power vacuum? and then it will start with the new set or will there be more versions of power vacuum? Thank you very much.
Im not the dev, but the dev has said that this is the last full chapter. He will then make a few Epilogues for some of the girls. After that, he will begin working on a new game and will "maybe" do what ifs during the in-between time.
 

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Nobody here was arguing over whether sterling was better or Kevin was better. It's that the ntr endings are canon in an alternative universe even though we've been told their not.
Where can they be canon if the whole point is purely theoretically this is what if it were like this? We all continue to play canon after the bad ending has already ended showing us "how it could have ended". Let it be for some alternative universe ntr endings, but we are playing in fact a canon plot...

Kevin's ending showed us how it would have ended for non-incest with normal relationship, Drew's ending showed us a family reunion... is this canon? No, this is their personal ending. And they moved on, now we returning to canon. All the others are already bad endings that do not even correspond with canon... I was just following all your arguments and it seemed like you were trying to make bad endings canon, so I chimed in. If some people consider bad endings a bit canon for them, so be it. No one is stopping us from continuing to play the canon story further.
 
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Where can they be canon if the whole point is purely theoretically this is what if it were like this? We all continue to play canon after the bad ending has already ended showing us "how it could have ended". Let it be for some alternative universe ntr endings, but we are playing in fact a canon plot...

Kevin's ending showed us how it would have ended for non-incest with normal relationship, Drew's ending showed us a family reunion... is this canon? No, this is their personal ending. And they moved on, now we returning to canon. All the others are already bad endings that do not even correspond with canon... I was just following all your arguments and it seemed like you were trying to make bad endings canon, so I chimed in.

That's my whole point. That they're not canon and that the what if and bad endings just go on porn logic for the sake of having a scene. They're not valid interpretations of anyone in the games character or personality and some of the bad endings contradict the actual canon, because they need the scene to happen. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it or that I personally have a problem with it. I'm just saying that they're not canon or valid just because you like NTR or want Kevin to get a win. The main reason why this conversation started was because they kept insisting Kevin's ntr ending was an alternative canon. And that the bad endings are also alternative canons even though they're just suggestions people made.

I was never trying to argue that the bad endings or canon or trying to make it fit better with canon. I was jut listing reasons why they aren't alternative canons. It's just characters acting out of character so we can get a scene.
 
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That's my whole point. That they're not canon and that the what if and bad endings just go on porn logic for the sake of having a scene. They're not valid interpretations of anyone in the games character or personality and some of the bad endings contradict the actual canon, because they need the scene to happen. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it or that I personally have a problem with it. I'm just saying that they're not canon or valid just because you like NTR or want Kevin to get a win. The main reason why this conversation started was because they kept insisting Kevin's ntr ending was an alternative canon.

I was never trying to argue that the bad endings or canon or trying to make it fit better with canon. I was jut listing reasons why they aren't alternative canons. It's just characters acting out of character so we can get a scene.
Hey, it's okay. I have nothing against you. As I said before, the way characters behave differently in non-canon is because there is no need to look for logic here... in every ntr game there is a similar case when in ntr scenes the characters behave inconsistently and contradictorily to the usual case, this is what betrayal and ntr are...
Kevin's ending for some had an alternative canon, because some consider it a normal end to a relationship that got rid of incest and other corruption...

Ophelia found a new lover and the ending is a fairy tale... purely theoretically it could be considered that if not for all these Hunter/bad things and other bullshit and the widow Ophelia would have met someone and started a new life and here is Kevin who succeeded in this moment and fulfilled his dream...

personally, I did not get anything outstanding from this ending except for the fast and how illogical Ophelia gave up because of a big dick... but as you can see? That's what ntr is, for some it's canon and for others it's just a bad ending... this is what makes you enjoy the game sometimes, seeing the difference between canon and non-canon, and makes you think about all this absurdity and laugh and get tense because of the story
 

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What do you think about a short spin-off about Hunter? It could be a short game. 1 or 2 chapters. Maybe he lost his virginity to his mother. That could be the reason for his insatiable incestuous desire. Maybe he took Ophelia's own virginity. I'm on chapter 5. Don't get mad.
 

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What do you think about a short spin-off about Hunter? It could be a short game. 1 or 2 chapters. Maybe he lost his virginity to his mother. That could be the reason for his insatiable incestuous desire. Maybe he took Ophelia's own virginity. I'm on chapter 5. Don't get mad.
I would be interested in seeing how he started out and conquered his female relatives. It could be titled "Hunter Begins"? "Hunter Origins"? "Hunter Year One"? :unsure:

But I'm pretty sure Ophelia lost her virginity to David (Sterling/MC's father).

You better catch up before chapter 13 releases!
 

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Hey, it's okay. I have nothing against you. As I said before, the way characters behave differently in non-canon is because there is no need to look for logic here... in every ntr game there is a similar case when in ntr scenes the characters behave inconsistently and contradictorily to the usual case, this is what betrayal and ntr are...
Kevin's ending for some had an alternative canon, because some consider it a normal end to a relationship that got rid of incest and other corruption...

Ophelia found a new lover and the ending is a fairy tale... purely theoretically it could be considered that if not for all these Hunter/bad things and other bullshit and the widow Ophelia would have met someone and started a new life and here is Kevin who succeeded in this moment and fulfilled his dream...

personally, I did not get anything outstanding from this ending except for the fast and how illogical Ophelia gave up because of a big dick... but as you can see? That's what ntr is, for some it's canon and for others it's just a bad ending... this is what makes you enjoy the game sometimes, seeing the difference between canon and non-canon, and makes you think about all this absurdity and laugh and get tense because of the story

But it's not alterntive canon though, that's my whole point. We've already been told that. It's just porn for the sake of having ntr porn. There is no point an insisting they're valid alternative because they're not. It doesn't mean you can't like it, but something isn't canon just because you insist it is. To be fair that's not just my arument for this game but for everything in general. There is no such thing as it being canon for some people but not others. Either something has no set canon or it established that there are multiple branching canons. This game doesn't do that.
 

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I would be interested in seeing how he started out and conquered his female relatives. It could be titled "Hunter Begins"? "Hunter Origins"? "Hunter Year One"? :unsure:

But I'm pretty sure Ophelia lost her virginity to David (Sterling/MC's father).

You better catch up before chapter 13 releases!
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I'm going crazy with this game. Ophelia and Sterling's relationship is amazing. But at the moment of the story, they do their things in secret. No one knows anything. But from the gif pinned in your comments it looks like Sterling will soon have sex with all the family members without any problems.
 

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But it's not alterntive canon though, that's my whole point. We've already been told that. It's just porn for the sake of having ntr porn. There is no point an insisting they're valid alternative because they're not. It doesn't mean you can't like it, but something isn't canon just because you insist it is.
You will be happy to know that "alternative canon" is an oxymoron and therefore is not a thing.(y)

On the other hand, some people have the opinion that the characters don't act "out of character" during the alternate endings. Can we agree to let people have those opinions?:HideThePain:
 

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I'm going crazy with this game. Ophelia and Sterling's relationship is amazing. But at the moment of the story, they do their things in secret. No one knows anything. But from the gif pinned in your comments it looks like Sterling will soon have sex with all the family members without any problems.
Oh yeah, um, "spoiler warning" I guess! :KEK:
 
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But it's not alterntive canon though, that's my whole point. We've already been told that. It's just porn for the sake of having ntr porn. There is no point an insisting they're valid alternative because they're not. It doesn't mean you can't like it, but something isn't canon just because you insist it is. To be fair that's not just my arument for this game but for everything in general. There is no such thing as it being canon for some people but not others. Either something has no set canon or it established that there are multiple branching canons. This game doesn't do that.
For me, "alternate canon" has nothing to do with real canon. I always associate them with "if there was an alternate version of Spider-Man where Harry Osborn survived and Spider-Man and the New Goblin teamed up"... that's the saying for alternate canons.

This is what the alternative sounds like for Kevin who is happy with Ophelia, this is a violation of the balance between the canon of the alternative canon which partially contradicts the original and rewrites another story for the universe part
 
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Alternative canon means branching timelines. There is no oxymoron.
I get what you're trying to say, but you need to find another way to say it. There is literally no purpose for the phrase "alternative canon", it is self contradictory. Branching timelines are definitionally non-canon, because they conflict with the story's official narrative (i.e. "canon").
 

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I would be interested in seeing how he started out and conquered his female relatives. It could be titled "Hunter Begins"? "Hunter Origins"? "Hunter Year One"? :unsure:
There's already a manga about that called Hunter x Hunter.
Hunting For Beginners
Hunter - Penis Rising
Hunter - A New Grope
Hunter The Cunter
Hunter and The Sorcerer's Bone

...sorry, I'll stop now.
 

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I get what you're trying to say, but you need to find another way to say it. There is literally no purpose for the phrase "alternative canon", it is self contradictory. Branching timelines are definitionally non-canon, because they conflict with the story's official narrative (i.e. "canon").
If something is an alternative time line then they're part of the stories official narrative because that branch is part of the official narrative. So they're alternative canon because their all valid canons. Like Spiderverse, everything that happens in the alternative universe is still canon to the main universe, it just doesn't directly effect the main universe.
 
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