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Kind been being released at the end the month for over half a year now. I think f95zone either needs to redefine "ON HOLD" label or create a new one. Like "Development Hell" or "Lost in the Matrix" if it doesn't update in six months. No matter what the developer says. It only gets removed after update is released.
well they say that its still updating so its still active thats why the admins not gonna make it abandon or On Hold "as long it is still posting something and not generated ( :BootyTime: )"
 

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Kind been being released at the end the month for over half a year now. I think f95zone either needs to redefine "ON HOLD" label or create a new one. Like "Development Hell" or "Lost in the Matrix" if it doesn't update in six months. No matter what the developer says. It only gets removed after update is released.
well they say that its still updating so its still active thats why the admins not gonna make it abandon or On Hold "as long it is still posting something and not generated ( :BootyTime: )"


The sites rules for the abandoned tag is this. Either 18 months pass with no update, complete radio silence from the dev for at least four months, or the dev themselves saying they are abandoning the game. Neither of those 3 things have happened yet so no abandonment tag. Many many many games on this site only update once a year so added a development hell tag after 6 months of no update is completely useless. Games on this site taking 6+ months to update is pretty much the norm.
 

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>be me
>doing the mortal thing
>discover F95
>lots of fun, some good games and plenty of garbage, but it all kills time
>discover Power Vacuum
>wait times get longer with each update
>get tired of the cycle of playing, waiting, and looking for new shit to play while I wait
>focus on real life for a while
>pick up hobbies, meet people, go places
>return to F95 one day
>no update? Bummer.
>back to real life
>check in a month later
>still nothing
>meh
>decide to read up on the thread one day
>kvetching, reeeing, and shrieking everywhere
>contemplate what it means that my experience has been so different
>decide I'm just built different
>write this post as a meme

Is this unbearable weight of massive talent what it feels like to be Nicolas Cage?
 

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The mother is traditionally last in games like these because of obvious bloody reasons. More inhibitions with getting it on with someone they grew inside them lol - even in stories where they been apart forever in a day that is always the case. Fuck the mother is rarely "the main" prize, just one of many. I think you are attributing too much to the popularity of MILF in general but rest assured if the trend was mom then sister(s) people would be making the EXACT same statement as you and being just as misguided in doing so. If anyone was arguable as being the main love interest it would be Brenna as she by far tends to get the most scenes and in almost every other medium you would argue most scenes/content = main character and it would be common sense to think so. Nah though everyone knows this game has three main love interests not just the one.
So you are saying that whether mom is main girl or side girl, she is destined to be seen as the last prize.. If not the main prize due to some fucking inhibitions. Wow. Why can't you just say that writers are not creative in writing stories for mom/son storylines and using same old progression to be safe. Because I can recommend you some games where Mom have many scenes than sister and still going successful. It's based on writer how much he wants to break the so called "stereotype" running for ages in AVN industry. There are always fans who would love to see mom getting banged continuously atleast towards the end after all the slow burn is completed. Atleast in the epilogue. She is one of the main girl. So, she deserves to get as many scenes (with MC) as other main girls where it is first or last of updates.
 
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So you are saying that whether mom is main girl or side girl, she is destined to be seen as the last prize.. If not the main prize due to some fucking inhibitions. Wow. Why can't you just say that writers are not creative in writing stories for mom/son storylines and using same old progression to be safe. Because I can recommend you some games where Mom have many scenes than sister and still going successful. It's based on writer how much he wants to break the so called "stereotype" running for ages in AVN industry. There are always fans who would love to see mom getting banged continuously atleast towards the end after all the slow burn is completed. Atleast in the epilogue. She is one of the main girl. So, she deserves to get as many scenes (with MC) as other main girls where it is first or last of updates.
Oftentimes "stereotypes" exist for a reason. Mom/son stories being a slow burn is because of human nature, not uncreative writing. They're inherently more taboo than brother/sister stories. When mom/son stories progress quickly, they may be hot, but they're less "realistic", to the extent that these games have any realism.
 

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Oftentimes "stereotypes" exist for a reason. Mom/son stories being a slow burn is because of human nature, not uncreative writing. They're inherently more taboo than brother/sister stories. When mom/son stories progress quickly, they may be hot, but they're less "realistic", to the extent that these games have any realism.
"Realistic".. as if everything in power vaccum is happening according to "Realism" standards lol. I just call it as hypocritical "selective realism".
 

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"Realistic".. as if everything in power vaccum is happening according to "Realism" standards lol. I just call it as hypocritical "selective realism".
I mean that's just common sense in real life tbh. I don't think you start to play a porn game with so many beautiful love interests that aren't related to you and you just immediately think that you will fuck your mom.
 

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"Realistic".. as if everything in power vaccum is happening according to "Realism" standards lol. I just call it as hypocritical "selective realism".
If you want actual realism, go read Flowers in the Attic. We all know these games are fantasies, that's why I wrote "realistic" in quotes, and they're full of improbable scenarios that require us to suspend disbelief. However, there is a certain degree of realism for the sake of immersion, which is not "hypocritical", it's just a balancing act. If characters never acted in a believable, human way, the story would be stupid and boring. If I only wanted hot renders and a garbage story, I'd play Away From Home or Milfylicious.
 

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I mean that's just common sense in real life tbh. I don't think you start to play a porn game with so many beautiful love interests that aren't related to you and you just immediately think that you will fuck your mom.
Not immediately. Yes, if it happens immediately, it doesn't feel as rewarding for investing our time and hearts in it to immerse ourselves. But, at the same time, it doesn't have to feel like "why this much tease? I would have done more than MC at this point in my real life with these conditions". And yes, some games let you feel exactly like that.

And even if you tolerate all the slow burn and finally get to a point where mom and MC have finally fucked each other, it will be already too late and you will be towards the ending of the game.

If some fans request for more content in the last updates or atleast in epilogue between mom-MC and wants it to equalise with other main Li's contents.. some other fans will complain "No, at this point, Mom/Son scenes will feel as repetitive, so 1 to 2 fuck scenes in coming chapter is enough and its okay if Ophelia have more scenes with other characters but not with MC." (Check out other people's comments to know what I'm saying.)..
Wow.. *silent claps*.
 
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If you want actual realism, go read Flowers in the Attic. We all know these games are fantasies, that's why I wrote "realistic" in quotes, and they're full of improbable scenarios that require us to suspend disbelief. However, there is a certain degree of realism for the sake of immersion, which is not "hypocritical", it's just a balancing act. If characters never acted in a believable, human way, the story would be stupid and boring. If I only wanted hot renders and a garbage story, I'd play Away From Home or Milfylicious.
You feel away from home as garbage but for significant number of mom/son fans it is one of their favourite. Mom is not immediately fucked. She got fucked in somewhere ep11 but when they did, they fucked all the night upto morning. And from there onwards, she getting regular updates and mom/son fans are still feeling immersive with the story except may be fans like you. All I'm saying is.. Atleast when the mom is finally got fucked, give us the wholesome experience with right amount of content instead of making us feel like "dissatisfaction".
 
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You feel away from home as garbage but for significant number of mom/son fans it is their favourite. Mom is not immediately fucked. She got fucked in somewhere ep11 but when they did, they fucked all the night upto morning. And from there onwards, she getting regular updates and mom/son fans are still feeling immersive with the story except may be fans like you. All I'm saying is.. Atleast when the mom is finally got fucked, give us the wholesome experience with right amount of content instead of making us feel like "dissatisfaction".
Look, different fans like different games for different reasons, and that's okay. One of the things the stands out about Power Vacuum is that the characters have depth and complexity, and that's appealing to me. Sometime they act a bit cartoonish, but they feel like actual people with actual histories, personalities, fears, and desires. Many other games (such as the ones I mentioned) have great scenes with moms that are super hot, but they're shallow, barely-developed characters. That's fine if you want to project your own fantasies onto those characters, or if you just want physical gratification. But sometimes I want more than that, so I turn to games like Power Vacuum.
 

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Look, different fans like different games for different reasons, and that's okay. One of the things the stands out about Power Vacuum is that the characters have depth and complexity, and that's appealing to me. Sometime they act a bit cartoonish, but they feel like actual people with actual histories, personalities, fears, and desires. Many other games (such as the ones I mentioned) have great scenes with moms that are super hot, but they're shallow, barely-developed characters. That's fine if you want to project your own fantasies onto those characters, or if you just want physical gratification. But sometimes I want more than that, so I turn to games like Power Vacuum.
If it is just physical gratification, why to wait for ep11 lol? Away from home Mom also have some story to her and she is the one who saves MC from bomb blast and after that scene, she fucks him all the night thinking that she don't want to waste anytime and claim MC for life before anything more danger happens to them. See, there is story and feelings in that game too for mom character. As I said before, it's all depends on writer's mind. Story and physical gratification can go together if writer is well talented in making it believable.
 

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If it is just physical gratification, why to wait for ep11 lol? Away from home Mom also have some story to her and she is the one who saves MC from bomb blast and after that scene, she fucks him all the night thinking that she don't want to waste anytime and claim MC for life before anything more danger happens to them. See, there is story and feelings in that game too for mom character. As I said before, it's all depends on writer's mind. Story and physical gratification can go together if writer is well talented in making it believable.
I'm sorry, I've made multiple different points and that seems to be causing some confusion.

Waiting many chapters before the mom/son characters become intimate has nothing to do with my point about physical gratification, but it has everything to do with my point about natural slow burns.

A story that is just a series of events, i.e. "this happens then this happens then THIS happens" is not character development. When you can explain everything about a character in one sentence, they are not well-written. They can still be cool characters, and they can still be attractive, but they lack any depth. They are the writing equivalent of junk food, they satisfy a craving for a particular flavor, but offer no nourishment for your brain. This is what I mean about physical gratification.
 
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"Realistic".. as if everything in power vaccum is happening according to "Realism" standards lol. I just call it as hypocritical "selective realism".
The point is that it is rare to find a game with a slow burn between a son and a mother, most of the developers manage to milk the plot and hold on to such scenes longer and longer, as if they have no idea...
"Realistic" is a bit over the top, but it is there in Power Vacuum, when you understand what the attraction between Sterling × Ophelia went through, and it was unforgettable

If I only wanted hot renders and a garbage story, I'd play Away From Home or Milfylicious.
Don't, my friend, don't do anything that will cause a fuss and arguments.
These games have their own twist, AFH has things like "Netori" that are hard to find because they are rare in Avn's, and before that there was a long burning with mother, which is now all resolved and they already have hot scenes going on...

Milfylicious has its own story, which also takes time to reveal the full plot, not to mention that there is or was too much slow burning between son and mother...

but comparing non-fantastic and with fantasy plot is not a good attempt my friend, each of these three has its own twist and spectacle, but they should not be interfered with in someone else's territory;)
 
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Don't, my friend, don't do anything that will cause a fuss and arguments.
These games have their own twist, AFH has things like "Netori" that are hard to find because they are rare in Avn's, and before that there was a long burning with mother, which is now all resolved and they already have hot scenes going on...

Milfylicious has its own story, which also takes time to reveal the full plot, not to mention that there is or was too much slow burning between son and mother...

but comparing non-fantastic and with fantasy plot is not a good attempt my friend, each of these three has its own twist and spectacle, but they should not be interfered with in someone else's territory;)
That's fair. I only mentioned those games as examples for comparison, so that this discussion wouldn't be so abstract. I certainly did not intend to offend, in fact I actually enjoy those games. But anyone should be able to agree that the writing in those games is... I'll say "unimpressive", is that polite enough? And this goes to the heart of the debate here, which is that Power Vacuum shines because its writing is far better than average. And because of that quality, I find it absurd when people make suggestions or complaints without considering the logic of the story.
 

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That's fair. I only mentioned those games as examples for comparison, so that this discussion wouldn't be so abstract. I certainly did not intend to offend, in fact I actually enjoy those games. But anyone should be able to agree that the writing in those games is... I'll say "unimpressive", is that polite enough? And this goes to the heart of the debate here, which is that Power Vacuum shines because its writing is far better than average. And because of that quality, I find it absurd when people make suggestions or complaints without considering the logic of the story.
It's okay, I understand that not everyone has a good quality with games. But when you say "I want more than that, so I turn to games like Power Vacuum", it would be strange to mix in games like these two, which have completely different stories and styles.. the maximum that PV can be compared to is SexBot or "Heritage" and these games have a similar style and plot a little...

I understand that you are expecting some stories and logic in AFH or Milfy, but as they say, logic in a porn game has little meaning, if you look at how many fans they have :WeSmart::BootyTime:
 

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I'm sorry, I've made multiple different points and that seems to be causing some confusion.

Waiting many chapters before the mom/son characters become intimate has nothing to do with my point about physical gratification, but it has everything to do with my point about natural slow burns.

A story that is just a series of events, i.e. "this happens then this happens then THIS happens" is not character development. When you can explain everything about a character in one sentence, they are not well-written. They can still be cool characters, and they can still be attractive, but they lack any depth. They are the writing equivalent of junk food, they satisfy a craving for a particular flavor, but offer no nourishment for your brain. This is what I mean about physical gratification.
AFH may be not a story for you or not well written for you, but the words she said when they fucked all night after the bomb blast scene is just mind blowing for me and many other fans of that game. Fans like me enjoyed that kind of writing. And nora is a a strong character that she although seems silent and reserved but Overseeing everything going on and is at the right place at right time to save her son and take initiative to fuck him all the night. Where as ophelia, is a victim of Hunter's mind control and needs someone like sterling to save her and family from the mind control stuff. In my mind, that is not the strong character development. So, what is good writing and what is strong character development is all subjective. But, anyway, it's good that.. There are games for my kind of taste like away from home and then there are games like PV for you.

Only disappointment is (my personal), I thought atleast in last chapters there going to be huge mom-MC content to equalize with other main Li's content. But it looks like thats not going to happen anyway.
 

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Only disappointment is (my personal), I thought atleast in last chapters there going to be huge mom-MC content to equalize with other main Li's content. But it looks like thats not going to happen anyway.
I doubt that's going to happen, it was my main critique as well, now Ophelia & Sterling will be involved in 3somes/orgies more since it's the last chapter, the scene count would never be balanced in comparison to how Catherine's & Brenna's story was there with Sterling, Ophelia's doesn't even come close to it, because Ophelia's story was milked and teased more.
At this point you can only hope that her epilogue has some good scenes with Sterling. Whenever it releases.
 
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