Unity Price for Freedom: Avarice [Build 31.2 Public] [Team Dead Deer]

[Stella MudPie]

Yeah, the first compound lenses were worth tens of thousands.

The game year is 628, PFF the webcomic is in 715 in the worlds' time. Atlathka will get new innovations and things quicker than most cities as a trade hub of the world and Kaldea also is a trade hub but they (at the point of the game) are just getting established an in a massive boom of trade and money. Part of the conflict between Atlathka and Kaldea tbh.

Atlathkans will only react to technology that's magical in nature as magic. Nothing in the world is so far advanced that it would be like "whoa! Are you from the gods!?" People will typically assume something is mechanical in nature. Anything they can't explain or dumbfounded by would probably be like "Huh... is that magical?" And it probably is haha. Magic can be used as an extremely efficient and a "ahead of the times power source." In the webcomic you see Hami's arm and a guys' reaction to it for example, Nameless' has a pretty muted reaction to it as well.

Though the game is years before the webcomic, so examples of that level of magically driven technology are very rare. Ohmes' telescope is one of a kind in the world (and was at risk of a fire in the early days of the Ohmish civil wars before the current detente started).

So yeah people are pretty up with it. You'd need to leave cities and even villages and fine like... nomadic tribes or isolated people who are far away from the rest of the world and its state to have people think that mechanical contraptions without magic, are seen as magic.

Cool, so there is more history to this game. I always wondered if technology would ever grow stronger than magic in PFF.

 

[GottaRun]

Yeah, the first compound lenses were worth tens of thousands.

The game year is 628, PFF the webcomic is in 715 in the worlds' time. Atlathka will get new innovations and things quicker than most cities as a trade hub of the world and Kaldea also is a trade hub but they (at the point of the game) are just getting established an in a massive boom of trade and money. Part of the conflict between Atlathka and Kaldea tbh.

Atlathkans will only react to technology that's magical in nature as magic. Nothing in the world is so far advanced that it would be like "whoa! Are you from the gods!?" People will typically assume something is mechanical in nature. Anything they can't explain or dumbfounded by would probably be like "Huh... is that magical?" And it probably is haha. Magic can be used as an extremely efficient and a "ahead of the times power source." In the webcomic you see Hami's arm and a guys' reaction to it for example, Nameless' has a pretty muted reaction to it as well.

Though the game is years before the webcomic, so examples of that level of magically driven technology are very rare. Ohmes' telescope is one of a kind in the world (and was at risk of a fire in the early days of the Ohmish civil wars before the current detente started).

So yeah people are pretty up with it. You'd need to leave cities and even villages and fine like... nomadic tribes or isolated people who are far away from the rest of the world and its state to have people think that mechanical contraptions without magic, are seen as magic.

Conflict between cities, then there are political "families" rivaling each other, do they affect the city's goverment ? How the common people deal with it

 

[mr.Mingle]

Conflict between cities, then there are political "families" rivaling each other, do they affect the city's goverment ? How the common people deal with it

Well according to the game and comic
i think it can usually affect ship's delivery (i bet valaska did a search on this) and also the city's trading system.
Not even sure if it's totally safe to send money to ancient banks back then

 

[Valaska]

Cool, so there is more history to this game. I always wondered if technology would ever grow stronger than magic in PFF.

Magic fuels technology in our setting, there aren't any real "fire spells" and such really. So they are often just one in the same! There are Spell Lock and Magelock guns for instance. Magic is used in a replacement for the firing primer and propellant in them.

Conflict between cities, then there are political "families" rivaling each other, do they affect the city's goverment ? How the common people deal with it

Sort of like how we do now haha. As long as the fighting isn't at your doorstep you live your life as normal as you can. But for sure they affect the government and governance of the cities, Atlathka is extremely vested in annexing Kaldea at this point in the timeline and it would be the subject of most of their gatherings and the considerations of possible future action would be pervasive in other meetings as well.

Kaldea is no different as you will find in our latest quest. Even while talking about unrelated matters at hand the conversation will usually devolve into bickering between opposite ideals in how to address the looming Atlathkan threat. There are people in Kaldea who want to go into active warfare and others who want to cede the city to Atlathka in a peaceful process.

Well according to the game and comic
i think it can usually affect ship's delivery (i bet valaska did a search on this) and also the city's trading system.
Not even sure if it's totally safe to send money to ancient banks back then

Atlathka is suffering most from this at the moment and is a large part of what started the war. Kaldea were charging tariffs on EVERY SINGLE VESSEL passing through the Kaldea Rock Channel, which is a pretty narrow passage. Ships that haven't paid tariffs aren't turned away... but tend (with an alarming 100% of the time reliability) to get attacked by pirates.

Currently, Kaldea is still letting ships through to Atlathka so long as they aren't carrying arms, armour, or magical implements that could be used for warfare... so they are watching for siege equipment and such. Atlathka is blockading land access though which makes up a TON of Kaldea's trade, Kaldea is the first land access to the Western Advance and the Broken Frontier range, all the villages and small towns on the coast etc. Atlathka hasn't been able to control the passage north as well as the western advance (which actually heads eastwards from Kaldea!)

Banks are very secure institutions back then. They are well guarded and their reputation was completely reliant on how they treated their patrons... if a bank was screwing people over, people wouldn't use it. So they were exceptional institutions in the real world and VERY secure.

The Kaldean bank is managed by its own institution that keeps out of the senate through the mercantile coalition and the aristocracy have ties to it.

They handle investments, loans, lines of credit and such. A lot of trade in the city is handled with banknotes between the large merchant houses. There are also forms of scrip in the city which have little to no monetary value but have a trade value and the bank will accept script as well as almost a form of stocks trading.

• Bank Notes are official notes plated by the bank and filled out at the bank with the recipient's name. The signator will go to the bank and request a note in order to transfer credit from one account owner to another, the signator then takes the note to the recipient who signs it and takes the note back to the bank to complete it. Representatives of a person estate may also handle the note and complete the transfer.
• Scrip is often used by companies to pay their employees without having the money on hand, which they will use to purchase items from company merchants... the fishermen in Kaldea have the largest scrip trade in the city for instance. The fishery workers union will trade their scrip for food, sundries, fishing tackle, and even some items they will purchase wholesale from retailers. Pesh deals with them and sells C grade flour to the fishers union, who then trade that in scrip. This allows employers to cut employee pay and also creates this atmosphere of the company pervading every part of someones' life. Banks will buy some of this scrip and then sit on it or trade and then trade it out when it raises back to the fishers union or to private investors interested in trading some of this scrip when it is more valuable so they can buy fish or other bits and then sell those solid goods at a profit.

The bank also records and keeps track of the value of goods and resources in the city, posting updating and posting the going market rate for goods. This vital service means the bank has a lot of power in the city in general.

 

[jesusjackct]

The Kaldean bank is managed by its own institution that keeps out of the senate through the mercantile coalition and the aristocracy have ties to it.

They handle investments, loans, lines of credit and such. A lot of trade in the city is handled with banknotes between the large merchant houses. There are also forms of scrip in the city which have little to no monetary value but have a trade value and the bank will accept script as well as almost a form of stocks trading.

• Bank Notes are official notes plated by the bank and filled out at the bank with the recipient's name. The signator will go to the bank and request a note in order to transfer credit from one account owner to another, the signator then takes the note to the recipient who signs it and takes the note back to the bank to complete it. Representatives of a person estate may also handle the note and complete the transfer.
• Scrip is often used by companies to pay their employees without having the money on hand, which they will use to purchase items from company merchants... the fishermen in Kaldea have the largest scrip trade in the city for instance. The fishery workers union will trade their scrip for food, sundries, fishing tackle, and even some items they will purchase wholesale from retailers. Pesh deals with them and sells C grade flour to the fishers union, who then trade that in scrip. This allows employers to cut employee pay and also creates this atmosphere of the company pervading every part of someones' life. Banks will buy some of this scrip and then sit on it or trade and then trade it out when it raises back to the fishers union or to private investors interested in trading some of this scrip when it is more valuable so they can buy fish or other bits and then sell those solid goods at a profit.

The bank also records and keeps track of the value of goods and resources in the city, posting updating and posting the going market rate for goods. This vital service means the bank has a lot of power in the city in general.

Impressive, so that's part of how they manage their money in the game
Will our main character have his own bank account too ?

 

[MangoMeta]

Most of the game is still free to play

hardly.

 

[Valaska]

Impressive, so that's part of how they manage their money in the game
Will our main character have his own bank account too ?

Hmm, eventually Redic would be able to open a line of credit if he got enough money. Most people in the city won't have a bank account, the ones living paycheck to paycheck will never really have a need for a bank account and that does make up a lot of people in Kaldea.

But Redic gets a little well off, so it would make sense for us to do that! Buuuuuut... more likely unless we can tie it into a story event and justify making the bank it might not be mentioned! Maybe Moira can open one up in his line as a story bit and it we could have a lore gasm about the banking system in the game haha. But likely not visit the area.

hardly.

Some people have been timing it out and 8-9 hours is free atm with 2 hours in patreon so currently, the majority of the game is available for free. I think they took their time reading most everything, but regardless that does mean the majority of the game is available on the public build still.

 

[__unidentified]

Sort of like how we do now haha. As long as the fighting isn't at your doorstep you live your life as normal as you can. But for sure they affect the government and governance of the cities, Atlathka is extremely vested in annexing Kaldea at this point in the timeline and it would be the subject of most of their gatherings and the considerations of possible future action would be pervasive in other meetings as well.

Kaldea is no different as you will find in our latest quest. Even while talking about unrelated matters at hand the conversation will usually devolve into bickering between opposite ideals in how to address the looming Atlathkan threat. There are people in Kaldea who want to go into active warfare and others who want to cede the city to Atlathka in a peaceful process.



Atlathka is suffering most from this at the moment and is a large part of what started the war. Kaldea were charging tariffs on EVERY SINGLE VESSEL passing through the Kaldea Rock Channel, which is a pretty narrow passage. Ships that haven't paid tariffs aren't turned away... but tend (with an alarming 100% of the time reliability) to get attacked by pirates.

Currently, Kaldea is still letting ships through to Atlathka so long as they aren't carrying arms, armour, or magical implements that could be used for warfare... so they are watching for siege equipment and such. Atlathka is blockading land access though which makes up a TON of Kaldea's trade, Kaldea is the first land access to the Western Advance and the Broken Frontier range, all the villages and small towns on the coast etc. Atlathka hasn't been able to control the passage north as well as the western advance (which actually heads eastwards from Kaldea!)

Banks are very secure institutions back then. They are well guarded and their reputation was completely reliant on how they treated their patrons... if a bank was screwing people over, people wouldn't use it. So they were exceptional institutions in the real world and VERY secure.

The Kaldean bank is managed by its own institution that keeps out of the senate through the mercantile coalition and the aristocracy have ties to it.

They handle investments, loans, lines of credit and such. A lot of trade in the city is handled with banknotes between the large merchant houses. There are also forms of scrip in the city which have little to no monetary value but have a trade value and the bank will accept script as well as almost a form of stocks trading.

The bank also records and keeps track of the value of goods and resources in the city, posting updating and posting the going market rate for goods. This vital service means the bank has a lot of power in the city in general.

Intense stuff here, Kaldea's channel IS the most convenient way to transport items to Atlathka, so being charged is inevitable
Hope that despite the war between cities, the economy will still be fine :/

 

[S - Boy]

Intense stuff here, Kaldea's channel IS the most convenient way to transport items to Atlathka, so being charged is inevitable
Hope that despite the war between cities, the economy will still be fine :/

I've read parts of this in the codex , quite interesting stuff, feels like a whole library of history.

 

[kingoflaughtbruh]

is anybody working on the crack rn

 

[Morasaky]

is anybody working on the crack rn

im kinda waiting for it as well

 

[Ulti-mater]

Some people have been timing it out and 8-9 hours is free atm with 2 hours in patreon so currently, the majority of the game is available for free. I think they took their time reading most everything, but regardless that does mean the majority of the game is available on the public build still.

Safe bet this is staight up a novel, spends half the time reading all, even those little details in the dialogue.
(The other half, don't ask... )

 

[Coomer44]

also intreseted in the new crack

 

[riserser]

Is there a place with information about the progress of the game (like, not really a release date, but more like a completion percentage or something) since I didn't found it on the main site or patreon ? (I'm kinda stingy with my money, I would prefer to pay for the full game when it will be released ^^)

 

[ArbuzBudesh]

No, we're not doing % completion thingies since we kinda suck at evaluating amount of work needed for specific segments of the game. Game wont be ready in at least a year, thats a given.

 

[riserser]

Okay, thanks for the reply ^^ And even through it's a bit odd to say as someone who's not contributing, but keep up the good work, the game's great ^^

 

[Valaska]

Is there a place with information about the progress of the game (like, not really a release date, but more like a completion percentage or something) since I didn't found it on the main site or patreon ? (I'm kinda stingy with my money, I would prefer to pay for the full game when it will be released ^^)

We will be going on steam too eventually, and anyone who backs at a certain $ value which is slipping my mind atm will be getting the steam release automatically. But yeah roadmaps are a nazard for developer and community both, it's a large part of how Star Citizen keeps people strung along and other games have abused roadmaps to string people along.

 

[Valaska]

We've redone the Avarice landing page! We will hopefully have a front page landing that will ask you which you want to check out and have a bit of stuff. Deck was playing around with the Unity web plugin and we might use it for more nifty little things on the page in the future.



SO yeah! Check out our landing page here!

You must be registered to see the links

 

[S - Boy]

We've redone the Avarice landing page! We will hopefully have a front page landing that will ask you which you want to check out and have a bit of stuff. Deck was playing around with the Unity web plugin and we might use it for more nifty little things on the page in the future.

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SO yeah! Check out our landing page here!

You must be registered to see the links

Great, appealing looks can draw more attention to the game. Can you guys use engines for the game other than Unity ?

 

[deck]

Great, appealing looks can draw more attention to the game. Can you guys use engines for the game other than Unity ?

You don't like unity?
And no that would be way to much work, which we can spend on improving the game in unity instead.