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[Forgerte]

Good thing you did not read the post about battle system. I can only imagine what would you said about my commitment to the rock-paper-scissors game.

So...erocomix authors started developing an erogame with sex scenes. Which is "its just not the styles the devs are aiming for". And discussing it on the porngames forum. Sounds legit.

Half of the post was about the damn fucking door. And yall keep going on and on about it so i dont care much about what you think of the battle mechanic

And second, who said porn games can only be about porn? Have you actually touch any Eroge with a worthwhile story?

 

[Kane_Freeman]

Any netori content?

 

[Ikomomo]

Half of the post was about the damn fucking door. And yall keep going on and on about it so i dont care much about what you think of the battle mechanic

And second, who said porn games can only be about porn? Have you actually touch any Eroge with a worthwhile story?

These people were not around during the golden age of good VNs and it shows. Hell they weren't even around for the MGQ trilogy. Porn is better when it has context.

 

[Ikomomo]

did check up out of curiosity and lmao
i dunno how im supposed to believe a man messing around with sleepy bull standing around. An animal which capable of this effortlessly you just MECHANICALLY unable to exert enough force to twist bulls head if he resists as a human. You literally dont have enough weight to do that even if i ignore the muscle strength needed. Oyama might've being a strong fighter, but i somehow doubt he could break laws of physics.

These are the kind of people who unironically think you can just fight a bear. They aren't worth you're life force.

 

[Forgerte]

These people were not around during the golden age of good VNs and it shows. Hell they weren't even around for the MGQ trilogy. Porn is better when it has context.

MGQ is peak worldbuilding, thats all

 

[Ikomomo]

MGQ is peak worldbuilding, thats all

You could strip out 90% of that games porn and just keep the Alice scenes and it would still be an awesome game. You could fade to black during the Alice scenes and it would still be a great story.

 

[Forgerte]

You could strip out 90% of that games porn and just keep the Alice scenes and it would still be an awesome game. You could fade to black during the Alice scenes and it would still be a great story.

Any half decent porn game should still be a half decent game without the porn. If not then it was never half decent to begin with

 

[Valaska]

Well, if you haven't seen it, then that doesn't happen. People who are categorical are almost always idiots, guess why? Masutatsu Oyama, google that name, you moron and never try to be categorical again, especially if it exceeds your meager imagination.

Pffft let me guess, you believe Steven Seagal is an "aikido master" too? You'er the kinda guy that'd sign up for Dillman's courses and buy into the bullshit haha. This dude was a fraud and if you can't see how silly a cutaway to a broken horn after him playing with a docile bull... there isn't even a shot of the punch haha.

Man was pissing his pants about accidentally setting the bull off with a punch so he had to cut away ASAP, couldn't even risk faking it. Sheeeeeesh.

Good thing you did not read the post about battle system. I can only imagine what would you said about my commitment to the rock-paper-scissors game.

So...erocomix authors started developing an erogame with sex scenes. Which is "its just not the styles the devs are aiming for". And discussing it on the porngames forum. Sounds legit.

Well a few of us have dev experience across the industry too. I've done writing in some surprising projects, we have people who worked at Spiders, and a ton of adventure games lol. Arbuz was working on the comic alone, we all came on to develop an actual game, with the intention of making it an ACTUAL game as well as an erotic game.

Any netori content?

Maaaaaan... if I have my way trust me, there will be. None YET but I'll make it happen. Funny, I always thought it was all just "NTR" but now I know the tag for Netori my search engine prowess has increased.

You could strip out 90% of that games porn and just keep the Alice scenes and it would still be an awesome game. You could fade to black during the Alice scenes and it would still be a great story.

MGQ is peak worldbuilding, thats all

Any half decent porn game should still be a half decent game without the porn. If not then it was never half decent to begin with

Yeah the bar for hentai games has been rising a lot, too. Super simple old stuff like VNs or those low-effort breeding games just aren't cutting it in the broader market and expectations have risen, a lot. The old gems are basically becoming the standard now, and even then they aren't always cutting it. Insane art production can still carry the day of course but people are expecting a game with that art now, and we can see it in the buying trends etc on steam.

Games like Aurelia have set a new standard that most the world/industry is lagging behind for VNs for instance. And we are seeing some teams reallys tepping up, Knightly Passions for instance really swings for story and art with content as a game etc. Honestly I don't think we'll see many VNs outside of something like DLsite especially since a lot of real AAA game devs are entering the erotic game space now... we're going to see a massive fucking paradigm shift led by these western bigtime devs entering the industry.

 

[xorxorrax]

These people were not around during the golden age of good VNs and it shows. Hell they weren't even around for the MGQ trilogy. Porn is better when it has context.

I disagree with the notion that there was a golden age for VNs. There's always a sea of crappy Nukige. The good games always stand out because they excel in some area, be it worldbuilding for RPGs, story for VNs or hell they are just fun gameplay wise. I also think you can have good game with crappy porn. For me that is Sengoku Rance, hell I skipped most of the CGs to get back to the strategy game lol.

In the end it is all about managing expectations. I usually try and find something else if I'm not enjoying something, others don't.

 

[xorxorrax]

a lot of real AAA game devs are entering the erotic game space now... we're going to see a massive fucking paradigm shift led by these western bigtime devs entering the industry.

Can you give some examples? Curious to see what projects you see as AAA were announced. Or is it just your view of the future?

 

[Valaska]

I disagree with the notion that there was a golden age for VNs. There's always a sea of crappy Nukige. The good games always stand out because they excel in some area, be it worldbuilding for RPGs, story for VNs or hell they are just fun gameplay wise. I also think you can have good game with crappy porn. For me that is Sengoku Rance, hell I skipped most of the CGs to get back to the strategy game lol.

In the end it is all about managing expectations. I usually try and find something else if I'm not enjoying something, others don't.

Can you give some examples? Curious to see what projects you see as AAA were announced. Or is it just your view of the future?

Yeah, there's a lot of nostalgia around hte older games, though they were gems at the time. The bar has been rising... a lot... and no offence meant but Japan has not been keeping up/started to stagnate in the kind of content it produces.

Critical Bliss has actually nabbed a few of them, while I can't say WHO exactly, but you can poke and check out some of their library to see the newer/newest releases have a shocking amount of polish and design. Flipwitch has baller fucking art and music,
a blizzard dev is confirmed to be working on Bad Night and did an interview with Pippa Pipkin about it. Devs from Wildlife and Carnal Instinct worked in AAA, a bunch of laid-off Riot employees are entering this sphere (can't say WHICH game but its coming).

There are some very big things in the works coming up.

 

[Vakul]

Half of the post was about the damn fucking door. And yall keep going on and on about it so i dont care much about what you think of the battle mechanic

And second, who said porn games can only be about porn? Have you actually touch any Eroge with a worthwhile story?

Yup, that fucking door and its fucking invisibility. Soo frustrating. Soo stupid. Soo obvious.
I played Mist recently. I has pretty good story. Utawarerumono from 2002 has great story, but I guess it hardly an eroge, coz there is few scenes there. Original Fate Stay Night has a quite decent and touching story, not without stupid shit though.

 

[Vakul]

Well a few of us have dev experience across the industry too. I've done writing in some surprising projects, we have people who worked at Spiders, and a ton of adventure games lol. Arbuz was working on the comic alone, we all came on to develop an actual game, with the intention of making it an ACTUAL game as well as an erotic game.

So you want to make a fullfledged game with erotic elements. Ok, I understand now.
So how come, that seasoned devs released a product with several updates without shaping a battle system? Coz you clearly mentioned that it is not shaped still. Was there no brainstorming? No pitching? No design document v0.1, 05, 1.0? Prototyping? Some playtesting maybe? How? Why?
I can't help but starting to suspect there is no clear project vision aside from story and art.

 

[Forgerte]

Yup, that fucking door and its fucking invisibility. Soo frustrating. Soo stupid. Soo obvious.

You will not survive any game with a difficulty above toddler level

 

[Valaska]

So you want to make a fullfledged game with erotic elements. Ok, I understand now.
So how come, that seasoned devs released a product with several updates without shaping a battle system? Coz you clearly mentioned that it is not shaped still. Was there no brainstorming? No pitching? No design document v0.1, 05, 1.0? Prototyping? Some playtesting maybe? How? Why?
I can't help but starting to suspect there is no clear project vision aside from story and art.

Because the combat system is our most complex bit of design. Yes there was a prototype, obviously. We've done design documents, and we have made several changes over the course of development. Skills, skill trees, balancing, the targeting, visibility through objects. We changed from a standard "battlespace" to being able to do battles inside of any location.

 

[Vakul]

You will not survive any game with a difficulty above toddler level

I've had enough shit with 8bit and 16bit consoles, so I don't fap on poor design and stupid "just to add 20 more hours of playtime" things. Those who missed that huge shitpiles can enjoy everything they want. Doesn't make shitty mechanics any better.

 

[Forgerte]

I've had enough shit with 8bit and 16bit consoles, so I don't fap on poor design and stupid "just to add 20 more hours of playtime" things. Those who missed that huge shitpiles can enjoy everything they want. Doesn't make shitty mechanics any better.

"Poor design" is basic reading comprehension. Yeah, you wont survive

 

[psylength]

...Wanted to ask how much content this game has and if it's good but all I see is people talking about fisting bulls and a door requiring reading comprehension.

 

[Valaska]

...Wanted to ask how much content this game has and if it's good but all I see is people talking about fisting bulls and a door requiring reading comprehension.

We haven't decided on all the phenotypes of the Zahra... but I would like Bovine too tbh, Arbuz insists that they have "feet" vs hooves since he wants them all to have a common root, but personally I think it's fine if we have a few convergent Zahra evolutions that might not be able to breed with one another...

But I am 100% against fisting, I will... not allow it in the game. These bastards (ArbuzBudesh , deck ) won't let me have my fucking wholesome and cute watersports scene where you pee on some chick, I will NOT let them sneak in that fisting weirdness! Sheesh.



But yeah we have about 30 hours of content in the full version right now and 30-40 scenes... actually I think we are up to 55-60+ scenes now? I would argue it is good but I am biased as I am VERY proud of the animators, artists, composers and writers I work with. Here's a few short gifs... or one gif, can't fit anymore lol



Our scenes have a lot of stages and such, the text can be a bit looooong. I am not sure if I am happy with how much text our scenes have, it might be too much. WE get compliments about it still, though. So yeah! There's like, 50 of these and then there's a bunch of sprite scenes too.

 

[psylength]

We haven't decided on all the phenotypes of the Zahra... but I would like Bovine too tbh, Arbuz insists that they have "feet" vs hooves since he wants them all to have a common root, but personally I think it's fine if we have a few convergent Zahra evolutions that might not be able to breed with one another...

But I am 100% against fisting, I will... not allow it in the game. These bastards (ArbuzBudesh , deck ) won't let me have my fucking wholesome and cute watersports scene where you pee on some chick, I will NOT let them sneak in that fisting weirdness! Sheesh.



But yeah we have about 30 hours of content in the full version right now and 30-40 scenes... actually I think we are up to 55-60+ scenes now? I would argue it is good but I am biased as I am VERY proud of the animators, artists, composers and writers I work with. Here's a few short gifs... or one gif, can't fit anymore lol

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Our scenes have a lot of stages and such, the text can be a bit looooong. I am not sure if I am happy with how much text our scenes have, it might be too much. WE get compliments about it still, though. So yeah! There's like, 50 of these and then there's a bunch of sprite scenes too.

LOL. Thank you for the serious answer but the bull was just a jab at the Masutatsu Oyama thing.

That sounds like a good amount of content so guess I'll check it out.