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Ahh there's a lot to say thinking about it... I'll come back with a short well structured essay later. After I finish all available quests.
Is there some sort of hidden item limit? I see spaces in my inventory yet I can't seem to collect items in the chests, even the stackable ones (scrolls, dried fish etc)
i havent read the comic yet but im planning to. is it just plot? porn? or both. knowing the devs talent id guess plot
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Literally just go to the previous page and there are your answers
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Question: When did we become white?
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First time playing this game, it's absolutely amazing. "Came for the porn, stayed for the plot" meme, 200%.
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It's just the contrast against Katrina skin who is very dark.Question: When did we become white?
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First time playing this game, it's absolutely amazing. "Came for the porn, stayed for the plot" meme, 200%.
And thank you, glad you like it.
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If I may ask, what would you say is the most difficult part of making the game?
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Rather than a specific part, I think it's keeping self disciplined and motivated in the long run, without burning out.
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That explains why the thread was made in 2017 and it yet it doesn't have the magical "Abandoned" tag yet. I'll leave a review after I'm done with the current build. How large is the team?
Lol I had to actually check it because I saw it the exact same way you did too. But yeah Deck is right, it's just the contrast it seems haha.Question: When did we become white?
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First time playing this game, it's absolutely amazing. "Came for the porn, stayed for the plot" meme, 200%.
self displindeeze nuts.
As Deck said, motivation, schedule, burnout. Those are the main things when working from home without in-person offices or workplaces, which really help with productivity when developing anything game/software-wise. Having a work space with your fellow team near you where you can collaborate and communicate in a professional setting does so much for game-dev, and unfortunately as an international indie team we don't really have that.
For myself as a writer, it can be random bits of writer's block that can stall the rest of the writing, but bigger is when writing MSQ stuff from time to time you end up writing something that might conflict with what another person has done so you need to co-ordinate and try to solve that. Another issue of not having direct communication.
The volume of what we write is another huge one in the writing department. Each update has a novella, to FULL novel-length text. We don't really get a chance to edit due to how much we need to finish each update. Some professional writers take 9-10 months to finish a 66k word novel. We do it in 1-3 months.
As project level stuff, it can be hard to hold onto some of our contractors long enough. Outsourcing stuff is great and we've worked with incredibly talented people, but sometimes life interrupts them or they burnout, and fade away without telling you. And it can be exceedingly hard to replace anyone like that in the indie space. So getting talent and contractors is another trouble with indie game development especially when you are on a very tight budget like ours.
Another is when visions conflict or such or a miscommunication which shouldn't have happened, happens, and it ends up destroying hours upon hours of work because one side cannot budge due to resources and time. Often it ends up resting on the writing team to work around the resources of others since we are a lot cheaper to edit/change. If a conflict with the art team happens, well, there's really not much they can do since art is a tangible thing and redoing art assets could destroy our project like many you've seen in the past have died from refactoring art/changing style or updating things.
Game development is this ever-changing, shifting, evolving thing. Deadlines are beaten, sometimes met, and others slip. Artists might be way ahead of writing, programming might be late, writers might be just barely on-time. Each one of us has an effect on the other and sometimes you have a team member scrambling to find something to do while others catch up to their work. This is all exacerbated by the nature of crowdfunding.
Crowdfunding is both the only reason we can do this in the first place, and yet, our number one hardest aspect of development for us.
The reason for this is both simple and complex. We need to constantly push content out as fast as possible to justice the pledges of our backers. This is why we scramble to hit internal deadlines and why we are ever trying to increase our development pace, which pushes us towards burnout and creative fatigue.
That constant push for content also makes it hard for us to often just kick down and fix things, flesh stuff out, or polish. This can kind of hurt the project in unexpected ways, such as how we want to revamp the combat system ASAP but we keep having to put it off and off.
But game dev is sure a hell of a lot better than being in the oilfield or the military again. So there's that lol.
3 founding members of the team (Original crew)
- Arbuz Budesh - Team Leader, Lead Artist, Animator originally, Gay
- deck - Programmer, Design, Social Media
- Myself - Lead Writer
- Cheese - and team member
- Syri - on contract currently
- Ghost-Cell - on contract currently
- SomeKindofWizard - former contractor
- ZlaSova - Artist for a lot of the props, buildings, architecture. Our primary animator and why scenes recently have fucking awesome animations.
- Etherek - Has done props and sprites with us and is in trianing to match Arbuz' art style (hardest part for an artist is to match another person's style, even if they are more skilled than the original artist!)
- JOSBOR Azelat - A commissioned artist who has done a ton of sprites, props, and is in training.
- Sixies - A former commissioned artist who has done work with us.
- Wolfy Nail - A former commissioned artist who did a few sprites with us.
- Psyware - Composed the vast majority of our pieces
- Nubbinownz - Did our old title theme and is the wilderness theme now
- Aooichi - Did a few tracks for us
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I haven't seen a lot of mistakes. I encountered one typo. I don't remember what it was. Something that would slip by autocorrect, a word being autocorrected into being another word that it shouldn't have been. The usual ducknig problem. My main criticism about the writing is... hmm. I don't want to say anything, lest you do something crazy like go back and rewrite all the earlier NPC dialogues, traders, Surgeon, etc, stunting game development for a decade.
I know what writers are like. I can't finish a page without wanting to rewrite it. There a lot of stale shit there, but gods, finish the game first.I think the lore is good. The Undead in particular, a very interesting take. Reminds me of the skeletons from Kenshi, perhaps with a bit of Planescape on the side. The character writing is good as it pertains to the main cast. Drunk Hiho is one of the few good drunk scenes I've seen in a game. Though certain scenes made me raise some question about naga anatomy.
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Some real criticism though. If you're only gonna have 4 party members, just have a full party. You can add all characters to your party through cheats anyway, just have them all around normally. Expand the UI. The argument for limited party size is an argument 3d games made with AI pathing issues, and some bad faith arguments relating to forced replayability values. Old games like Baldurs Gate had no problem having a 6+ size party. And there are issues here. For example, because I never took Scylla with me, her sudden friendship with Hiho during the Red Is Her Color quest came out of nowhere because I never saw them interact. Not that that extent anyway.
I think we settled on 87, but basically because one of the prominent figures is in the game will lead whatever happens here in Kaldea into the webcomic, and she may reminisce about the events that happened. Since Kaldea is a huge issue in the region for Atlathka, and the game is set in Atlathka, a lot of what is going on in the webcomic stems from what the end events of Avarice.
As Clementine says in the early game, this is the beach head for her operation in Atlathka. Her organisation is a massive part of the story events to come.
But not only that but I write characters to be permanent entities in anything I write so naturally the events NEED to have a resolution and we MUST have that resolution be consistent if we ever call back to it. Especially if we want to have a game that is a sequel to Avarice in the future we will need a game-state that is canonical in terms of ending. Also if we want to write short stories, novels, or webcomic etc in that time period.
So Redic, Hiho, Scylla, Mara, Osh'to, Kimber, Samara, Moira, etc etc etc all have a canonical end state. I'll spoil one, Pesh, the grocer, ends up with the guard across the street which he quits his employ with the slaver and works with Pesh in her business. They'll settle down in the future, have a few kids and the grocery business will take off. But since Saurians are so much longer-lived than other races, she'll be a widow and will not marry again in later age (though it's theoretical she may entertain gentlemen callers, she's not really the type to move on).
Oh shit I forgot to mention Crabble, he has come on to proofread what we write and he's helped a ton to catch things. Updated my word processors to catch more stuff as well, issue is that they are by no means perfect and sometimes I have a nasty habit of typing a completely correct word that has nothing to do with what I meant to type... it's bizarre. What is the complaint you have though?I haven't seen a lot of mistakes. I encountered one typo. I don't remember what it was. Something that would slip by autocorrect, a word being autocorrected into being another word that it shouldn't have been. The usual ducknig problem. My main criticism about the writing is... hmm. I don't want to say anything, lest you do something crazy like go back and rewrite all the earlier NPC dialogues, traders, Surgeon, etc, stunting game development for a decade.
I think the lore is good. The Undead in particular, a very interesting take. Reminds me of the skeletons from Kenshi, perhaps with a bit of Planescape on the side. The character writing is good as it pertains to the main cast. Drunk Hiho is one of the few good drunk scenes I've seen in a game. Though certain scenes made me raise some question about naga anatomy.
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Some real criticism though. If you're only gonna have 4 party members, just have a full party. You can add all characters to your party through cheats anyway, just have them all around normally. Expand the UI. The argument for limited party size is an argument 3d games made with AI pathing issues, and some bad faith arguments relating to forced replayability values. Old games like Baldurs Gate had no problem having a 6+ size party. And there are issues here. For example, because I never took Scylla with me, her sudden friendship with Hiho during the Red Is Her Color quest came out of nowhere because I never saw them interact. Not that that extent anyway.
Yeah, I've written all the ladies nights so far, I've been around sloshed girl's who have been sheltered before, just channelled experience. Naga anus' is near the end of their tail between two ventricle scales, liquids are quickly processed and go out through a dedicated bladder tract after the stomach, solids are digested slowly and through multiple stomachs and an extremely long intestinal tract until they pass "pellets" basically.
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It'd be a bit late for that as we have a lot of chats that trigger as if someone was recruited, but is not present at the moment. Would have been a good thing to consider early on but right now we are too far in and have written a few things assuming it. That some of the content, specifically Scylla's latest quest, relies on one character being out of action. But yeah it mighta been a smarter thing to do at the start, guess we just followed traditional design without thinking too much on it. Another thing we did was made it so certain characters in certain situations have easy-outs for that situation.
But yeah a few chats hint at Scylla and Hiho developing a friendship outside of time Redic spends with the two, Girl's night with drunk Hiho for example she is very clingy with her and Verona both. There will be more ladies nights that will set it up and such. Also if you mistreat Hiho in front of Scylla ever, it has a negative relationship trigger for both and she will defend Hiho.
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I actually suspected something like that but I wasn't sure if I should beleive it, that the game takes little things like that into account. I noticed this when I was trying to reproduce the drunk night scene after I finished the current build and I just couldn't get the same dialogue that I got the first time, there are a lot of triggers for various dialogues, even single lines.
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Speaking of Hiho I might have encountered a bug, or the Walkthrough is wrong, because I got Hiho's sex scene the first time after finishing her recruitment quest and the walkthrough just says your reward is that she joins. So the second time I just got the same scene and it kind of made me feel like I got her scene too early. I'm not sure if this is a mix up or I was so good to her that I sequence broke her romance.
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