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What the fuck is a dishwasher for? I literally have to be polite even with bandits because apparently. You can't even use a demoness in the dungeon, even if it would be a bad ending. And you don't cut the demoness, the main character literally makes the same mistake as Rowan and Toji from Magic Battle.
Magic Battle... the card game or...? No idea who Toji is, but you CAN stab Lady Wolf, you impail her clean through, say no to the sex scene. You can even try and expose her, and yes, it is a bad ending. Because your violence is nothing compared to what she can commit.

He doesn't hit all the way. By the way, Dzhizera survived exclusively thanks to the plot armor, otherwise I can't say why the guy who killed the demon king is not able to deal with two fucking assholes. Why the fuck did you have this worship of demons in your games?
...? Because Rowan didn't kill the twins' father. He was able to get supplies to the realm's forces when no one else could, and planned/found a way in where no one else could. It was an entire army that was committed to bring him down full of extraordinarily powerful mages and such, you even meet a few later in SoC. Either of the twins could end Rowan at any point and there are several bad endings where they will do just that.

And as for this game, it seems okay, although of course it doesn't make you want to jerk off to these scenes that escaped from women's romance novels, but that's a matter of taste I suppose. Your fantasy is so polished that even Baldur's Gate 3 would envy it, although there are plenty of controversial points there too. Nobody robs anyone, kills anyone, does bad things to women, because apparently there is a strict matriarchy there, lmao. The cobweb who steals your wallet, you literally can't hand her over to the guards. You can either fuck her or let her go, why the hell? Yujiro may be a farce, but he is an epic farce. It is interesting to watch him and interesting to observe him. Men want to be like him, and women just want to sleep with him. And then you jump out with your elf who has no interesting character, no backstory, just a typical hipster from the nearest coffee shop. What does realism have to do with it? We seem to be playing a fantasy game, no? There are a lot of Japanese games that have elements of drama and comedy and all this is combined and does not cause rejection. The same monster girl quest, there the main character is just perfect by your standards, but at the same time Luka does not evoke the feeling of a dead valley like your elf, Rowan and a couple of similar characters from Western gamedev.
Whew boy... starting to think you didn't clear the first dungeon??? There's a slave market where there are women who are being sold, a Zahra slave who the slave master there is thinking about skinning and selling her fur off because of how valuable (and illegal in most places) a Zahra pelt is. You can kill, Scylla... and her entire family was butchered in front of her and she had to kill her own uncle lol. In Scylla's second quest one of the companions will be seriously injured? Redic even meets an old acquaintance from his homeland who bleeds out... in his arms, right there?

Outside forces are attempting to take down the Velvet Oasis because of its success, Elizabeth Roth (a female knight from Ohmes) is killed by your people's hands. You can kill Mara... like, you literally, legitimately, have zero understanding how much you can do in this game?

And yeah this is a fantasy game but I don't care about making silly comedy or power fantasy. We're making a serious setting here with rules and consequences. If you just... murder Iski for picking your pocket, the Partisans would bring you down in moments for killing someone that publicly. Like... you vs one of the most professionally trained and maintained guard forces in this setting armoured and armed to the teeth. You're not walking away from that.

Not only that but no backstory? lol... again, he speaks about his backstory to the companions and to Clementine. He's a set and established character that you are guiding. But at the same time you are basically demanding the Japanese blank slate characters with literally no backstory while complaining our character doesn't have a backstory? Pick a lane???

A polished game for hipsters and people who are offended by pictures on the Internet, lol. I also want to say that people like you with your vanilla stories are to blame for the emergence of the NTR genre as a counterculture with such “true stories”, because readers are tired of reading all sorts of vanilla crap about nothing.
Ahaha... yes, that is us. The polished game for "coffee shop hipsters" that has slavery, racism, a dude who can fuck multiple women, in a couple instances even dubious motivations/consent. But yeah like if you dig NTR then check out , Lewd Logic has been cooking that up for a while. That's not the game we're making.

And about the animations, are you fucking serious? When fucking Samara sucks the main character's dick, the dick literally goes through her cheek, lol. This is the level of the 2000s before normal authors appeared.
Pffft... there isn't a scene where Samara sucks the MC's dick yet except for our sprite scenes which just came out. Show me it "just going through her cheek." Not happening, and having been around this industry for ages and having access/playing a ton of stuff, yeah our animations are among the best in the industry for rigged scenes. We have a lot of work to do to re-work the run/walking cycles though as I am not happy with those, but the in-sex scene animations are top choice, and even our sprite scenes which are our quick and low-effort beat out anything I've seen out of Japan for years excluding keyframe, there are some western devs we might not be on the level of yet but we're working on improving.

(Wow, now that IMGUR etc is gone, there's nowhere to do gifs because everyone bans them lol)


And I don't agree that you actually believe that Baki isn't telling you to look up to Yujiro. He's literally the most successful person in the series who is worshiped like a god. Literally my reaction when I read your answer.
... did you just miss the whole bit where the author spells it out how Yuuichirou is the pinnacle of a complete person? Or how it is literally spelled out that Baki beats Yujiro and Yujiro admits, Baki, is the strongest which in his own mentality means Baki is the one you should look up to? Or how Baki has a loving relationship, friendship, but his choice to shirk all the bullshit/fame/etc is what makes him the happier person.

What does Yujiro actually have? Nothing, he's literally just going through the motions, but nothing he does means anything. Nothing he accomplishes means anything. It's all just to do it. The only people who would look up to Yujiro are the same weirdos who thought Holden Caulfield was "the real one and everyone else was fake and a phony!" or people who thought John Galt was anything but a moron's take on Nietzche's writings lol. Or more topically/modern culture, people who actually look up to Rick Sanchez lol.
 

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Magic Battle... the card game or...? No idea who Toji is, but you CAN stab Lady Wolf, you impail her clean through, say no to the sex scene. You can even try and expose her, and yes, it is a bad ending. Because your violence is nothing compared to what she can commit.



...? Because Rowan didn't kill the twins' father. He was able to get supplies to the realm's forces when no one else could, and planned/found a way in where no one else could. It was an entire army that was committed to bring him down full of extraordinarily powerful mages and such, you even meet a few later in SoC. Either of the twins could end Rowan at any point and there are several bad endings where they will do just that.



Whew boy... starting to think you didn't clear the first dungeon??? There's a slave market where there are women who are being sold, a Zahra slave who the slave master there is thinking about skinning and selling her fur off because of how valuable (and illegal in most places) a Zahra pelt is. You can kill, Scylla... and her entire family was butchered in front of her and she had to kill her own uncle lol. In Scylla's second quest one of the companions will be seriously injured? Redic even meets an old acquaintance from his homeland who bleeds out... in his arms, right there?

Outside forces are attempting to take down the Velvet Oasis because of its success, Elizabeth Roth (a female knight from Ohmes) is killed by your people's hands. You can kill Mara... like, you literally, legitimately, have zero understanding how much you can do in this game?

And yeah this is a fantasy game but I don't care about making silly comedy or power fantasy. We're making a serious setting here with rules and consequences. If you just... murder Iski for picking your pocket, the Partisans would bring you down in moments for killing someone that publicly. Like... you vs one of the most professionally trained and maintained guard forces in this setting armoured and armed to the teeth. You're not walking away from that.

Not only that but no backstory? lol... again, he speaks about his backstory to the companions and to Clementine. He's a set and established character that you are guiding. But at the same time you are basically demanding the Japanese blank slate characters with literally no backstory while complaining our character doesn't have a backstory? Pick a lane???



Ahaha... yes, that is us. The polished game for "coffee shop hipsters" that has slavery, racism, a dude who can fuck multiple women, in a couple instances even dubious motivations/consent. But yeah like if you dig NTR then check out , Lewd Logic has been cooking that up for a while. That's not the game we're making.



Pffft... there isn't a scene where Samara sucks the MC's dick yet except for our sprite scenes which just came out. Show me it "just going through her cheek." Not happening, and having been around this industry for ages and having access/playing a ton of stuff, yeah our animations are among the best in the industry for rigged scenes. We have a lot of work to do to re-work the run/walking cycles though as I am not happy with those, but the in-sex scene animations are top choice, and even our sprite scenes which are our quick and low-effort beat out anything I've seen out of Japan for years excluding keyframe, there are some western devs we might not be on the level of yet but we're working on improving.

(Wow, now that IMGUR etc is gone, there's nowhere to do gifs because everyone bans them lol)




... did you just miss the whole bit where the author spells it out how Yuuichirou is the pinnacle of a complete person? Or how it is literally spelled out that Baki beats Yujiro and Yujiro admits, Baki, is the strongest which in his own mentality means Baki is the one you should look up to? Or how Baki has a loving relationship, friendship, but his choice to shirk all the bullshit/fame/etc is what makes him the happier person.

What does Yujiro actually have? Nothing, he's literally just going through the motions, but nothing he does means anything. Nothing he accomplishes means anything. It's all just to do it. The only people who would look up to Yujiro are the same weirdos who thought Holden Caulfield was "the real one and everyone else was fake and a phony!" or people who thought John Galt was anything but a moron's take on Nietzche's writings lol. Or more topically/modern culture, people who actually look up to Rick Sanchez lol.
I can't stab her because it doesn't affect anything. A random fucking demon who just happens to be near the main character is a cliche even by Japanese isekai standards. Yes, I can expose her, but we are not allowed to fight her, she is apparently a one-punch man in this world, lol. Yes, you are right about Rowan, I apparently have false memories of him killing him. No, I went somewhere up to the quest for silver in the mercenary guild and the quest of that girl who wants to fuck a deer. In 3 hours of gameplay, I did not see a single scene you wrote except for the demoness and this is literally the same as in the game about Rowan. And what are the consequences? Can you betray the demoness? Very unlikely. Can you conquer this city through intrigue and ultra-violence? Also no? Hmm. What are you talking about if in some moments you can't even be rude. It's funny that you consider racism - it's just childish babble. Have you read Ivanhoe for example? That's medieval racism. Your racism is as it is imagined while sitting over a mug of latte in a coffee shop. Again, the main character doesn't give a shit who to fuck, a fucking kobold or an ogre. He's a cosmopolitan, lol. And I didn't say anything about killing a kobold, I said that you can't even hand her over to the guards and you can even beat her by simply bribing the guards and letting her go and that will give another boost to the main character's motivation, but that's not the case. Of course you don't have a fantasy about power, lol. You can't even fucking change your equipment. What do you mean just Japanese characters from scratch? Are you nuts? Luka's backstory is better written than all the content I've seen in your game. You could have at least googled it. And yeah, why do you think I like NTR? And yeah, the fact that you even linked to NTR shows your ignorance, since this is Netori's game, not NTR. Bro, the scene after the hunting quest. There she's lying on the bed and when she starts fellatio the main character's dick goes right through her cheek. Don't you know what scenes you have in your game? Yeah, if you don't praise yourself, no one will. I'm sure the clowns from Ubisoft think the same way when they release another piece of failed crap. Look at artists like Itte Umezawa, Takeda Hiromitsu and so on. Their work is a billion times better than yours, lol. Bro, this gif is just something else, lol. It's like I'm watching a puppet theater run by a person with cerebral palsy. Did I say something about Yujiro being the strongest? Or something bad about Baki? Why are you arguing with yourself? No, it doesn't make him happier. He spent his entire childhood and youth trying to get revenge on his father for literally random Tuesdays for Yujiro. Literally giving up his entire life for the sake of recognition from this man. Which is exactly what I was saying. Men want to be like him, and women want to fuck him. Cool, and now we've moved on to passive aggression about how I like Yujiro, and you're too scared to admit that such characters are the peak of art. Because Yujiro literally demonstrates the inconsistency of being a positive character. It's literally working at a loss. That's exactly how he was meant to be.
 

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Is anyone else getting a bug with the fight against he village elder in the whispering bandits quest? i can't end my turns, and i got an error the first time i entered the tavern
Could you send a bug report in game, with the bottom left button in the main menu, I'll check your save.
 

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I can't stab her because it doesn't affect anything. A random fucking demon who just happens to be near the main character is a cliche even by Japanese isekai standards. Yes, I can expose her, but we are not allowed to fight her, she is apparently a one-punch man in this world, lol.
The first scene if you decline it, you see why you're not winning... you drive a sword straight through her, and it does, nothing. She rips a rusted steel door open by... taking it out of the wall where it was anchored in. There is no "one punch man" in PFF, but if you were to try and punch a bull in the head it's not going to go well. Likewise, if you are going to try and fight, one-on-one, a creature that could snap your spine with a backhanded slap is not going to go well for you.

And what are the consequences? Can you betray the demoness? Very unlikely. Can you conquer this city through intrigue and ultra-violence? Also no? Hmm. What are you talking about if in some moments you can't even be rude. It's funny that you consider racism - it's just childish babble. Have you read Ivanhoe for example? That's medieval racism. Your racism is as it is imagined while sitting over a mug of latte in a coffee shop.
You can at a few points challenge and attempt to do so, but it's an entity that Redic has nearly no answer for. He's got his eye out and there's a few points where he is either searching for or coming to terms with her, specifically with Commodore Asgher. But its clear that she could be anyone he speaks to, she is watching, and monitoring... but also helping him. For now with the personality and mind he has he wants to understand more of what's going on and remove the potential risk instead of just suicidally exposing her.

And like... this isn't slapstick comedy, already said that. Having a rude option for EVERY conversation is dogshit writing. FIrst off it doesn't work with the character and secondly, Redic isn't a fucking moron. Do you know how far people like that make it in life? Not very. It drives people away or eventually cuts a cheque your mouth can't cash.

And yes... I have read Ivanhoe. It was written several hundred years after the fact and completely and utterly anachronistic rife with inaccuracy. A complete misunderstanding when it comes to charges of heresy and somehow... a Jewish woman, was charged? Which isn't something a thing that would happen, not to mention the sentence was completely ahistorical for the time period and witches weren't burned at the stake outside the Americas (and even then, RARELY). You're likely applying 4channer ideas of what racism in the middle ages was like, instead of understanding how it actually was.
Again, the main character doesn't give a shit who to fuck, a fucking kobold or an ogre. He's a cosmopolitan, lol.
Not to mention we are in a free trade center, which is the very definition of cosmopolitan. So... thanks for the compliments on me nailing the setting appropriately! Not to mention Einadians don't have any reason to dislike kobolds, ogres, or what not. They'd far sooner be aggressive/racist towards a Pyrish human/elf than they would be to a kobold in a completely different region with no cultural animosity. Because that's how "racism" worked in the earlier days, it was much more based on culture and region than it was on actual race.

What do you mean just Japanese characters from scratch? Are you nuts? Luka's backstory is better written than all the content I've seen in your game. You could have at least googled it. And yeah, why do you think I like NTR? And yeah, the fact that you even linked to NTR shows your ignorance, since this is Netori's game, not NTR.
Iunno you suddenly started talking about NTR games so I linked you NTRaholic, you can even be super shitty to women in it. Might be up your alley??? No? Also... Luka? From Steinsgate? I like the character but I think his story is pretty brief and almost an afterthought. That game is more about the present interactions you have with the characters.

Bro, the scene after the hunting quest. There she's lying on the bed and when she starts fellatio the main character's dick goes right through her cheek. Don't you know what scenes you have in your game? Yeah, if you don't praise yourself, no one will. I'm sure the clowns from Ubisoft think the same way when they release another piece of failed crap. Look at artists like Itte Umezawa, Takeda Hiromitsu and so on. Their work is a billion times better than yours, lol. Bro, this gif is just something else, lol. It's like I'm watching a puppet theater run by a person with cerebral palsy.
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This is the scene after hunting, unless you mean the sprite scene and the dick doesn't come out of the cheek it's just a hard transition since those scenes are done faster so we can provide more content/kinks that our community vote on. And for those 2 artists, I mean, yeah. Keyframe vs rigged. Our rigged animations compared to others are in the top of the genre. We don't have keyframe animations. Also... like, some of these animations too are like... I feel pretty confident in our animator's skill at this point tbfh haha. We manage a good amount of amplitude and oomph that's not the norm for rigged scenes! Nice.

Did I say something about Yujiro being the strongest? Or something bad about Baki? Why are you arguing with yourself? No, it doesn't make him happier. He spent his entire childhood and youth trying to get revenge on his father for literally random Tuesdays for Yujiro. Literally giving up his entire life for the sake of recognition from this man. Which is exactly what I was saying. Men want to be like him, and women want to fuck him. Cool, and now we've moved on to passive aggression about how I like Yujiro, and you're too scared to admit that such characters are the peak of art. Because Yujiro literally demonstrates the inconsistency of being a positive character. It's literally working at a loss. That's exactly how he was meant to be.
So what's your argument for Yujiro being someone you should look up to, lol? Baki finds Kozue and falls in love and they end up having a super wholesome and nice relationship together, he has real friendship with Kaoru, Retsu (Best Waifu), Doppo, Hanayama, and even Chiharu. Baki makes actual friends and lasting relationships while Yujiro's entire life revolves around waiting for his son to beat him. He does, nothing. He accomplishes, nothing.

Baki takes on responsibilities and accepts a man is more than just being a selfish parasite like Yujiro. And at the end of the day... who makes the fuckin' Miso soup? That's right. Yujiro makes the soup.

And he did a shit job of it, too.
 
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Correlation does not imply causation, a game's complexity is just one factor in its popularity or lack thereof.
Well ofcourse, that is only one factor of many. And thats why gamedesign is not an easy job. But you mentioned Morrowind so I based my argumentation on this title. While visuals can be improved relatively fast'n'easy, an outdated mechanics still linger making it much harder to compete with modern titles.
And again - that is in general. There is some exceptions, as always, but as they say - the exception only proves the rule. There is many popular games with complex mechanics, but their popularity cant be compared to that one of Candy crush.
As for Elden Ring - do not mistake "hard" and "complicated" thats very different things. Elden is hard, like any soulslike, but there is no complicated mechanics - you just go smash things to get loot while trying not to die in the process.

Finally, there's a difference between "user-friendly" and "hand-holding". For example, a giant arrow pointing what to do and where to go at all times is hand-holding, a quest log with important quest information so you don't have to remember everything the NPCs told you is user-friendly, it's not the same thing.
In the end, it is the "size" of an arrow that makes the difference. It can be like giant-giant, or it can be like highlighted outline, or it can be togglable. Or it can be in the form of text hint. Handholdin-Userfrendly is valuables on the same scale, just different position.

but then are compeltely fucked at the boss fight because you don't have a blue bar breaker or such.

While we are looking at streamlining and improving our combat system, this system wouldn't work well for the limited character roll we have. But it is a legitimate and can be a fun system in the right context and genre.
Everything is possible, when there is enough imagination. Team problem like that can be easily solved when neede character step out before a battle ans says something like "I have a feeling I should go with you" or "I wanna go". Or can be locked in the team for the mission.
As for colored scheme - it was just an example of battle system which is simple yet elegant, allowing you to explain it fast and add the details later if you want. Again - everything is possible where is enough imagination.

You don't need sexy characters to be successful, but you need visually interesting ones at least.
Well, as far as I remember, according to marketing rules sexy girls is what make the most sales. Next, cute things like kittens and puppies. And besides we're here on the porn games forum, so I stated the obvious)
 

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Everything is possible, when there is enough imagination. Team problem like that can be easily solved when neede character step out before a battle ans says something like "I have a feeling I should go with you" or "I wanna go". Or can be locked in the team for the mission.
As for colored scheme - it was just an example of battle system which is simple yet elegant, allowing you to explain it fast and add the details later if you want. Again - everything is possible where is enough imagination.
No I get what you mean, but yeah it would not work out with the genre and style of our game. That just is more geared and aimed towards the large party games like Fire Emblem, Advanced Wars, etc.

Well, as far as I remember, according to marketing rules sexy girls is what make the most sales. Next, cute things like kittens and puppies. And besides we're here on the porn games forum, so I stated the obvious)
Well, one thing you can look at is Fortnite, and then games like Journey etc. HIGH contrast art can pull people in and catch their eye. Like setting pale blue next to vibrant dark reds. You can even go the route of Rainbow 6 and such and still bring in tons of people, going the route of safe and approachable/decent graphics. Or Forever Winter and go for extremely unique with a specific tone and style that sets it apart.

So I think there's a world a non-sexy Concord could have worked... but there's no world where an ugly and drab version that doesn't do anything to set itself apart Concord works.
 
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Well ofcourse, that is only one factor of many. And thats why gamedesign is not an easy job. But you mentioned Morrowind so I based my argumentation on this title. While visuals can be improved relatively fast'n'easy, an outdated mechanics still linger making it much harder to compete with modern titles.
And again - that is in general. There is some exceptions, as always, but as they say - the exception only proves the rule. There is many popular games with complex mechanics, but their popularity cant be compared to that one of Candy crush.
As for Elden Ring - do not mistake "hard" and "complicated" thats very different things. Elden is hard, like any soulslike, but there is no complicated mechanics - you just go smash things to get loot while trying not to die in the process.
I didn't bring up Morrowind someone else did. I just replied to your comment to them, personally I have zero faith in current Bethesda so if they were involved in a remake it would probably suck.

The point with Elden Ring is that it doesn't hold your hand, It doesn't tell you where to go or what to do and yet is still extremely popular, that's just one example that shows games don't need to treat their players like babies to be successful.

In the end, it is the "size" of an arrow that makes the difference. It can be like giant-giant, or it can be like highlighted outline, or it can be togglable. Or it can be in the form of text hint. Handholdin-Userfrendly is valuables on the same scale, just different position.
One is making things more convenient and the other is often the result of devs having no faith in their ability to convey information to their players in a more subtle manner or them thinking their player base is filled with people too dumb to figure anything out themselves. A well-designed game will teach things to the player without most of them even realizing they're being taught.

Of course this all depends on what kind of game it is and what it's trying to achieve, in some of them it makes perfect sense to point where your objectives are and what you need to do. The problem is acting like every game should be like that no matter what and that it's "bad game design" if they don't.

Like when you threw a tantrum because you obviously didn't read and couldn't figure how to progress and called the devs idiots because the game didn't spoon-feed you hard enough.

Whan I read comix and found outt there is a game, I hoped there is somthing akin to that rpgmaker things. But this... they clearly not suited for making games. Overcomplicated combat without obvious mechanics is shitty at least.
Save-load made so poorly, you cant even tell - are you loading or saving.
Perfect example of situation when art is NOT everything.
No obvious pointers is making you reload again and again without any understanding - what the fuck did you do wrog this time. From gamedesign point of view - complete shit.
When you escaping prison, second room, SECOND FUCKING ROOM - and they're keep catching you. What to do? Where to hide? How stupid and blind devs are to shit this crap to life? Hope they will never make games again, they are imbecils anyway. Even BG3 has combat more comprehansible than this shit.
 
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The first scene if you decline it, you see why you're not winning... you drive a sword straight through her, and it does, nothing. She rips a rusted steel door open by... taking it out of the wall where it was anchored in. There is no "one punch man" in PFF, but if you were to try and punch a bull in the head it's not going to go well. Likewise, if you are going to try and fight, one-on-one, a creature that could snap your spine with a backhanded slap is not going to go well for you.



You can at a few points challenge and attempt to do so, but it's an entity that Redic has nearly no answer for. He's got his eye out and there's a few points where he is either searching for or coming to terms with her, specifically with Commodore Asgher. But its clear that she could be anyone he speaks to, she is watching, and monitoring... but also helping him. For now with the personality and mind he has he wants to understand more of what's going on and remove the potential risk instead of just suicidally exposing her.

And like... this isn't slapstick comedy, already said that. Having a rude option for EVERY conversation is dogshit writing. FIrst off it doesn't work with the character and secondly, Redic isn't a fucking moron. Do you know how far people like that make it in life? Not very. It drives people away or eventually cuts a cheque your mouth can't cash.

And yes... I have read Ivanhoe. It was written several hundred years after the fact and completely and utterly anachronistic rife with inaccuracy. A complete misunderstanding when it comes to charges of heresy and somehow... a Jewish woman, was charged? Which isn't something a thing that would happen, not to mention the sentence was completely ahistorical for the time period and witches weren't burned at the stake outside the Americas (and even then, RARELY). You're likely applying 4channer ideas of what racism in the middle ages was like, instead of understanding how it actually was.


Not to mention we are in a free trade center, which is the very definition of cosmopolitan. So... thanks for the compliments on me nailing the setting appropriately! Not to mention Einadians don't have any reason to dislike kobolds, ogres, or what not. They'd far sooner be aggressive/racist towards a Pyrish human/elf than they would be to a kobold in a completely different region with no cultural animosity. Because that's how "racism" worked in the earlier days, it was much more based on culture and region than it was on actual race.



Iunno you suddenly started talking about NTR games so I linked you NTRaholic, you can even be super shitty to women in it. Might be up your alley??? No? Also... Luka? From Steinsgate? I like the character but I think his story is pretty brief and almost an afterthought. That game is more about the present interactions you have with the characters.



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This is the scene after hunting, unless you mean the sprite scene and the dick doesn't come out of the cheek it's just a hard transition since those scenes are done faster so we can provide more content/kinks that our community vote on. And for those 2 artists, I mean, yeah. Keyframe vs rigged. Our rigged animations compared to others are in the top of the genre. We don't have keyframe animations. Also... like, some of these animations too are like... I feel pretty confident in our animator's skill at this point tbfh haha. We manage a good amount of amplitude and oomph that's not the norm for rigged scenes! Nice.



So what's your argument for Yujiro being someone you should look up to, lol? Baki finds Kozue and falls in love and they end up having a super wholesome and nice relationship together, he has real friendship with Kaoru, Retsu (Best Waifu), Doppo, Hanayama, and even Chiharu. Baki makes actual friends and lasting relationships while Yujiro's entire life revolves around waiting for his son to beat him. He does, nothing. He accomplishes, nothing.

Baki takes on responsibilities and accepts a man is more than just being a selfish parasite like Yujiro. And at the end of the day... who makes the fuckin' Miso soup? That's right. Yujiro makes the soup.

And he did a shit job of it, too.

Well, why not. There were men in real history who knocked down a bull with a punch. You can google it. Your analogy is bullshit. No fucking way, having a rude answer for every dialogue is a fucking player choice. It was even in the first two Baldur's Gates. In some dialogues, you could even break the 4th wall with rudeness and nothing, all normal people consider Baldur's Gates masterpieces. Of course, Redick is not an idiot, he is just a personification of the authors of the game and nothing more. He is an empty fucking nothing. He has no motives other than the most obvious, no character that would distinguish him from the crowd. Such people are literally the pinnacle of our world. Go look at Musk, Eminem, Trump, a bunch of random dictators from Africa, etc. Isn't that enough for you? They literally hold the world by the balls thanks to their personal qualities which are almost always negative in the opinion of all sorts of random clowns who have devoted too much time to philosophy. It's funny to listen to such nonsense about racism from you. Heinrich Kramer, Pierre de Lancre, Matthew Hopkins, these names don't mean anything to you? Well, google them, lol. I have a strong feeling that I'm talking to another flat-earther, lmao. Bro, just because a city is a trading city doesn't mean there is no racism there. Google how people lived in Istanbul under the Ottoman Empire or any other large cities. Almost always, foreigners were evicted to separate areas so that there would be no misunderstandings between locals and visitors. I don't fucking know who taught you history, but that person doesn't deserve his diploma. No, fucking Luka from Monster Girl Quest. What does random shit from Nitroplus have to do with it? I have full respect for Urobochi Gen, but his sci-fi is so-so. Your animation is so-so, to put it mildly, especially compared to the people I gave as an example. Look again at the works of Itte Umezawa and Takeda Hiromitsu, that's how animation should look, not like yours, you can also look at the works of NTRMAN, his animation is also not bad. The difference between Yujiro and Baki is that Yujiro created his destiny and his life entirely by himself. He is the author of his own destiny. And Baki has been trying to surpass his father his whole life, first for revenge, and then for approval. They are not even on the same level, lol. To live a life of your own complete self-control or to be another NPC, for me the choice is obvious. Cool, I thought we were adults here who had outgrown the belief in first love and other nonsense, but it turned out that I was talking to some naive fool. It's even really cute when you meet such a naive cutie on a porn site and have long dialogues with him, lmao. And Yujiro doesn't achieve anything, firstly because he's obviously not the main character, and secondly, he's already achieved everything. The whole world fears him and trembles before him. Are you suggesting sending him into space so that he can also strike fear into aliens? It's funny, by the way, that your main character from your own game, according to your logic, also doesn't do anything and doesn't achieve anything. Except for random fucks with whores. By the way, wouldn't you like to introduce venereal diseases into the game, since you're making a "realistic game about consequences"?
 

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Going into this thread and seeing people making literal Everests out ant hills like most of these complains are just upset that the game doesn't cater to their specific interest like there are possibly hundred of games are there that can satisfy you guys, right? No way this porn shit is that serious, right? Like why do we even mention politics again instead of, idk, fapping to baddies or some shit?
 

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Going into this thread and seeing people making literal Everests out ant hills like most of these complains are just upset that the game doesn't cater to their specific interest like there are possibly hundred of games are there that can satisfy you guys, right? No way this porn shit is that serious, right? Like why do we even mention politics again instead of, idk, fapping to baddies or some shit?
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Well, why not. There were men in real history who knocked down a bull with a punch. You can google it.
Ahahaha... aha... no. There hasn't been. I grew up farming, there isn't a single human on the face of the fucking planet that could bare fisted knock a bull out with a punch. I have seen a COW twist a corral panel when she freaked out and they aren't made to ram full force into bears like a bull is. Even bears only go after young bulls, and if you think you could knock a bear out you are fucking out of it lol. You live in a fantasy world, ironically. A bull can shatter your shoulder without even meaning to hurt you, it can just try to warn you and it would literally rip your shoulder from its socket.

Your analogy is bullshit. No fucking way, having a rude answer for every dialogue is a fucking player choice. It was even in the first two Baldur's Gates. In some dialogues, you could even break the 4th wall with rudeness and nothing, all normal people consider Baldur's Gates masterpieces.
BG1/2 mostly keep the blatantly rude options for things that aren't narratively important... a better example would be Arcanum, but even then it gets connected to a bunch of things like intelligence, charisma, speech checks etc. With the writing team we have we give as many options with meaning while confirming to the character of Redic. Providing this set for everything gets old and laboured/forced
  • Meanie Bo Beanie: "Grrr, I mad, I edge, you suck! Grrr!
  • Nice: "Uuuu, I nice, you nice. We nice!"
  • Neutral: "Pointless option that leads to Nice outcome"
  • Speechcraft: "Pointless option that leads to Nice outcome"
So... we don't. It improves our options and writing a lot.

Of course, Redick is not an idiot, he is just a personification of the authors of the game and nothing more. He is an empty fucking nothing. He has no motives other than the most obvious, no character that would distinguish him from the crowd. Such people are literally the pinnacle of our world. Go look at Musk, Eminem, Trump, a bunch of random dictators from Africa, etc. Isn't that enough for you? They literally hold the world by the balls thanks to their personal qualities which are almost always negative in the opinion of all sorts of random clowns who have devoted too much time to philosophy. It's funny to listen to such nonsense about racism from you. Heinrich Kramer, Pierre de Lancre, Matthew Hopkins, these names don't mean anything to you? Well, google them, lol. I have a strong feeling that I'm talking to another flat-earther, lmao.
Funny that the fanbase for Trump is so heavily skewed with flat earthers but you seem to worship him but... Trump is a good example actually! How many of his former staffers are with him? Why isn't he running with his former Vice President? Why does everyone in his administration and even his wife seem to hate him and speak badly of him now? With Musk, Confinity outright ousted him because of his general behaviour and they were afraid he'd kill the company (He wanted to detach from Ebay which was their lifeblood at the time). But these two men have one very important common factor! They had nearly a billion dollars in family money.

Eminem is a pretty nice dude in person, most accounts of fans and people in his personal life say he is a good guy who tries to do right by everyone around him. When it comes to dictators in Africa, do you realise the ones who aren't charismatic in some form typically fall to assassination or ousting by another junta etc? You need to be a reasonably likeable/loved/feared person and that almost always requires some form of institutionalised power that sets you up to get there. The ones who survive manage to sway enough people to follow them, at least immediately... or they get deposed. One thing they taught us in the RCMC, you can be competent... you can be firm, the toughest son of a bitch out there, but if your men won't follow you'll charge alone.

Bro, just because a city is a trading city doesn't mean there is no racism there. Google how people lived in Istanbul under the Ottoman Empire or any other large cities. Almost always, foreigners were evicted to separate areas so that there would be no misunderstandings between locals and visitors. I don't fucking know who taught you history, but that person doesn't deserve his diploma. No, fucking Luka from Monster Girl Quest. What does random shit from Nitroplus have to do with it? I have full respect for Urobochi Gen, but his sci-fi is so-so.
Wat... there is, kobolds suffer from a lot of prejudice in general and it created a loop where kobolds are basically held in a disadvantage spiral. They are small and can't compete with most labour jobs that underprivileged people rely on to get by, and often are forced into lives doing the scrap work people see as beneath them/demeaning, or crime. There's some suspicion around ogres because of their diminished sense of guilt compared to other peoples, and they are often typecast as brutish hulks despite them not being any less intelligent than any other people. Novencians are seen as rich, haute, and spoiled... and this can affect them in negative ways.

But it is a trade city that is a major cultural mosaic. Contact exposure is one of the best and undeniable ways to acclimate and make people more comfortable/accepting of other peoples, customs, and cultures. The Ottoman Empire is... a really shit example. Before the Ottoman Empire, during the Byzantine or Latin eras, the place was a hub of various peoples and even cultures. YOu can see architecture from all across the ancient world showing up in Istanbul, and while there were some cultural hubs where people gravitated towards, before the Ottoman Empire it was one of the most accepting places, especially as Constantinople. The Ottoman Empire was inherently isolationist and an extremely fundamentalist state that attempted to reject the world in general and establish a fucking Caliphate. So... nice try, but I know my history, habibi. Like, no shit. A caliphate wanted to eject and segregate people.

Constantinople even kind of languished after the fall, most of its academics, wealthy, etc fled and spread across the globe.[.. did you know the fall of Constantinople is actually credited for the spread of science and innovation that would move across europe in the late 1400s? Post WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman empire and mandates would open the city up again.

Ah, never played monster girl quest. Not into the whole shota thing personally, so I have no idea if his character has any depth to him or not.

Your animation is so-so, to put it mildly, especially compared to the people I gave as an example. Look again at the works of Itte Umezawa and Takeda Hiromitsu, that's how animation should look, not like yours, you can also look at the works of NTRMAN, his animation is also not bad.
Again keyframes I mentioned in my first response to you, keyframe is different from rigged. Zone has a lot of rigged stuff earlier when you originally cited, and our rigged animations look a lot better than the early zone rigged ones, but now Zonemixed keyframe with rigged and yeah it's hard to match keyframe animation with rigged. But tbh... looking through some of your examples, we honestly have more amplitude to our stuff which is surprising as the main advantage of keyframe is how much amplitude and deformation you can do. So yeah I am actually even more confident in the amazing job our animators have done after your examples. A lot of our rigged animations look as good, or even better, than some of this keyframe. I honestly would have never thought that was possible. More than proud of the job Zla and Krawa have done.

t's funny, by the way, that your main character from your own game, according to your logic, also doesn't do anything and doesn't achieve anything. Except for random fucks with whores. By the way, wouldn't you like to introduce venereal diseases into the game, since you're making a "realistic game about consequences"?
Akshually, there are venereal diseases in our setting and there's even a joke about banging Iski, though humans and Lizardfolk don't really have many shared STIs. But one of the best ways to stave-off STIs is... surprise, hygiene. STIs in the Roman Empire were actually pretty rare, same as the Greeks... despite the fact they stuck their dicks into anything, and their women would stick anything in their vag. Because of good hygiene. That's actually one of the major contributing factors to the increase in prevalence in STIs all the way to the 1800s when disease all across the board frankly spiked because people's hygiene actually got worse between the 1500-1900s. Personal hygiene is pretty common in our setting, and Redic honestly doesn't stick his dick in places you generally wouldn't want to. He's not fucking slums prostitutes, for instance. But yes, Syphilus, gonorrhoea, and chlamydia are a thing. As well as crabs, obviously.

The difference between Yujiro and Baki is that Yujiro created his destiny and his life entirely by himself. He is the author of his own destiny. And Baki has been trying to surpass his father his whole life, first for revenge, and then for approval. They are not even on the same level, lol. To live a life of your own complete self-control or to be another NPC, for me the choice is obvious. Cool, I thought we were adults here who had outgrown the belief in first love and other nonsense, but it turned out that I was talking to some naive fool. It's even really cute when you meet such a naive cutie on a porn site and have long dialogues with him, lmao. And Yujiro doesn't achieve anything, firstly because he's obviously not the main character, and secondly, he's already achieved everything. The whole world fears him and trembles before him. Are you suggesting sending him into space so that he can also strike fear into aliens? I
Yujiro created nothing, he just exists. His existence gives nearly no value to the world. He is literally a parasite who never lived up to his own father's life and never was fulfilled as he was. Hence why he moves around nomadically, leeching from other people's lives vicariously. He is one of the most dangerous things in the world the zenith of so much, but he has... nothing. He is, nothing. He even feared just the sight of his own father and flipped out being judged by him and... his entire life became nothing but trying to leave a legacy. Because he know he has achieved and built nothing.

Except for Baki. Who has out grown, out achieved, out done his father in every facet of life.

And he made the miso soup.
 

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Going into this thread and seeing people making literal Everests out ant hills like most of these complains are just upset that the game doesn't cater to their specific interest like there are possibly hundred of games are there that can satisfy you guys, right? No way this porn shit is that serious, right? Like why do we even mention politics again instead of, idk, fapping to baddies or some shit?
Distracting myself when I get fatigued writing actually helps re-jog me for some reason... plus I am a brain broken mother fucker that loves history, politics, and Baki.

Funny thing is I hated Baki before Arbuz was like "Ey buddy I lik'a the Baki." Ended up loving that shit haha.





Welcome to the internet! What would you prefer, fight for civil rights or tweet a racial sluuuur?
 

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there isn't a single human on the face of the fucking planet that could bare fisted knock a bull out with a punch.
It is quite wlll known in certain circles. There is an urban legend coursing through the karate dojo's for a decades about how one of senseis was able to one-hit the bull. Not neseccary in the head though. It originates from the principle that a true karate master should strive for this level of mastery - to knock down a bull with one blow.
The point with Elden Ring is that it doesn't hold your hand, It doesn't tell you where to go or what to do and yet is still extremely popular, that's just one example that shows games don't need to treat their players like babies to be successful.
Thw thing is Elden is not a game which is supposes to "play with one hand". People searching for soulslike expect soulslike experiance. People searching for decent porn games expexting decent porn games.
Like when you threw a tantrum because you obviously didn't read and couldn't figure how to progress and called the devs idiots because the game didn't spoon-feed you hard enough.
What is obvious to you, not obvious to everyone else, thats why we have languages - to share thoughts. I've read all the dialogs and run a few circles around that room with dozens of loading(which is broken btw, coz there is no indication - are saving or are you loading.) An I DID NOT SEE THE FUCKING DOORWAY. So - no, I do not agree to see this the right way. Not after I saw hundreds of examples - good and bad, comlex and simple.

Going into this thread and seeing people making literal Everests out ant hills like most of these complains are just upset that the game doesn't cater to their specific interest like there are possibly hundred of games are there that can satisfy you guys, right? No way this porn shit is that serious, right? Like why do we even mention politics again instead of, idk, fapping to baddies or some shit?
I think you are miskateken here. In politics there is rule - you should focus on those who is neither your supporter nor opponent to sway them your way. Coz your supporters alredy yours and swaying your opponents will take too much of your resources. In games in particular rules slighty are different.
Gaming is about fun and emotions. And the opposite side of emotions is indifference. If people dont give a fuck - they ignore.
Those who runting here is (en masse) interested in the project(,aybe art, or kins in tags) and tried to play, but dissapointed for some reasons. They are potential audience. Those who dont give a fuck usually don't bother themselves to explain their indifference. Main question - is how devs going to work with that. What will they do? Will they choose to ignore? Or to convince? Or to make some changes? Either way it will be their responsibility whether they fail or win.
"...Win the crowd and you will win your freedom" or something like that.
 
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I think you are miskateken here. In politics there is rule - you should focus on those who is neither your supporter nor opponent to sway them your way. Coz your supporters alredy yours and swaying your opponents will take too much of your resources. In games in particular rules slighty are different.
Gaming is about fun and emotions. And the opposite side of emotions is indifference. If people dont give a fuck - they ignore.
Swaing people on the fence and such, yeah. There's validity in that, but the responses to Denji is just masturbating for me, basically. There's no swaying anything there haha. Someone like you? Maaaaaaaaaaybe but we have to know our own audience too, and if we go to a rock paper scissors thing we might actually drive our fans and community.

We need to figure a way to have a living breathing believable world and not over-sell details or quests to people because, Orlox is right, if we start putting markers and arrows and yellow paint, people will stop engaging with and paying attention to the lore and the world and just looking at markers and paint.

There's a medium between accessibility and immersion/engagement. The... sword had a clear objective for instance haha. And ALT can highlight it.

The hiding area, I think its fine. It'd be better if we had an animated turning to slow the turning and looking down and more pacing and such, and we need to populate that room with 10+ bandits with their backs turned in the living area. That way people understand WHY you can't be caught.
 
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It is quite wlll known in certain circles. There is an urban legend coursing through the karate dojo's for a decades about how one of senseis was able to one-hit the bull. Not neseccary in the head though. It originates from the principle that a true karate master should strive for this level of mastery - to knock down a bull with one blow.

Thw thing is Elden is not a game which is supposes to "play with one hand". People searching for soulslike expect soulslike experiance. People searching for decent porn games expexting decent porn games.

What is obvious to you, not obvious to everyone else, thats why we have languages - to share thoughts. I've read all the dialogs and run a few circles around that room with dozens of loading(which is broken btw, coz there is no indication - are saving or are you loading.) An I DID NOT SEE THE FUCKING DOORWAY. So - no, I do not agree to see this the right way. Not after I saw hundreds of examples - good and bad, comlex and simple.


I think you are miskateken here. In politics there is rule - you should focus on those who is neither your supporter nor opponent to sway them your way. Coz your supporters alredy yours and swaying your opponents will take too much of your resources. In games in particular rules slighty are different.
Gaming is about fun and emotions. And the opposite side of emotions is indifference. If people dont give a fuck - they ignore.
Those who runting here is (en masse) interested in the project(,aybe art, or kins in tags) and tried to play, but dissapointed for some reasons. They are potential audience. Those who dont give a fuck usually don't bother themselves to explain their indifference. Main question - is how devs going to work with that. What will they do? Will they choose to ignore? Or to convince? Or to make some changes? Either way it will be their responsibility whether they fail or win.
"...Win the crowd and you will win your freedom" or something like that.
There are like 2 people ranting and ranting over here and they are honestly borderline mental for ranting about a fucking door instead of spending 2 seconds on the quest log. It is absolutely baffling that the state of gaming had been reduced to, do we need 10 different markers on one fucking doors? Should we use crayon for texts next time?
 
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Ahahaha... aha... no. There hasn't been. I grew up farming, there isn't a single human on the face of the fucking planet that could bare fisted knock a bull out with a punch. I have seen a COW twist a corral panel when she freaked out and they aren't made to ram full force into bears like a bull is. Even bears only go after young bulls, and if you think you could knock a bear out you are fucking out of it lol. You live in a fantasy world, ironically. A bull can shatter your shoulder without even meaning to hurt you, it can just try to warn you and it would literally rip your shoulder from its socket.



BG1/2 mostly keep the blatantly rude options for things that aren't narratively important... a better example would be Arcanum, but even then it gets connected to a bunch of things like intelligence, charisma, speech checks etc. With the writing team we have we give as many options with meaning while confirming to the character of Redic. Providing this set for everything gets old and laboured/forced
  • Meanie Bo Beanie: "Grrr, I mad, I edge, you suck! Grrr!
  • Nice: "Uuuu, I nice, you nice. We nice!"
  • Neutral: "Pointless option that leads to Nice outcome"
  • Speechcraft: "Pointless option that leads to Nice outcome"
So... we don't. It improves our options and writing a lot.



Funny that the fanbase for Trump is so heavily skewed with flat earthers but you seem to worship him but... Trump is a good example actually! How many of his former staffers are with him? Why isn't he running with his former Vice President? Why does everyone in his administration and even his wife seem to hate him and speak badly of him now? With Musk, Confinity outright ousted him because of his general behaviour and they were afraid he'd kill the company (He wanted to detach from Ebay which was their lifeblood at the time). But these two men have one very important common factor! They had nearly a billion dollars in family money.

Eminem is a pretty nice dude in person, most accounts of fans and people in his personal life say he is a good guy who tries to do right by everyone around him. When it comes to dictators in Africa, do you realise the ones who aren't charismatic in some form typically fall to assassination or ousting by another junta etc? You need to be a reasonably likeable/loved/feared person and that almost always requires some form of institutionalised power that sets you up to get there. The ones who survive manage to sway enough people to follow them, at least immediately... or they get deposed. One thing they taught us in the RCMC, you can be competent... you can be firm, the toughest son of a bitch out there, but if your men won't follow you'll charge alone.



Wat... there is, kobolds suffer from a lot of prejudice in general and it created a loop where kobolds are basically held in a disadvantage spiral. They are small and can't compete with most labour jobs that underprivileged people rely on to get by, and often are forced into lives doing the scrap work people see as beneath them/demeaning, or crime. There's some suspicion around ogres because of their diminished sense of guilt compared to other peoples, and they are often typecast as brutish hulks despite them not being any less intelligent than any other people. Novencians are seen as rich, haute, and spoiled... and this can affect them in negative ways.

But it is a trade city that is a major cultural mosaic. Contact exposure is one of the best and undeniable ways to acclimate and make people more comfortable/accepting of other peoples, customs, and cultures. The Ottoman Empire is... a really shit example. Before the Ottoman Empire, during the Byzantine or Latin eras, the place was a hub of various peoples and even cultures. YOu can see architecture from all across the ancient world showing up in Istanbul, and while there were some cultural hubs where people gravitated towards, before the Ottoman Empire it was one of the most accepting places, especially as Constantinople. The Ottoman Empire was inherently isolationist and an extremely fundamentalist state that attempted to reject the world in general and establish a fucking Caliphate. So... nice try, but I know my history, habibi. Like, no shit. A caliphate wanted to eject and segregate people.

Constantinople even kind of languished after the fall, most of its academics, wealthy, etc fled and spread across the globe.[.. did you know the fall of Constantinople is actually credited for the spread of science and innovation that would move across europe in the late 1400s? Post WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman empire and mandates would open the city up again.

Ah, never played monster girl quest. Not into the whole shota thing personally, so I have no idea if his character has any depth to him or not.



Again keyframes I mentioned in my first response to you, keyframe is different from rigged. Zone has a lot of rigged stuff earlier when you originally cited, and our rigged animations look a lot better than the early zone rigged ones, but now Zonemixed keyframe with rigged and yeah it's hard to match keyframe animation with rigged. But tbh... looking through some of your examples, we honestly have more amplitude to our stuff which is surprising as the main advantage of keyframe is how much amplitude and deformation you can do. So yeah I am actually even more confident in the amazing job our animators have done after your examples. A lot of our rigged animations look as good, or even better, than some of this keyframe. I honestly would have never thought that was possible. More than proud of the job Zla and Krawa have done.



Akshually, there are venereal diseases in our setting and there's even a joke about banging Iski, though humans and Lizardfolk don't really have many shared STIs. But one of the best ways to stave-off STIs is... surprise, hygiene. STIs in the Roman Empire were actually pretty rare, same as the Greeks... despite the fact they stuck their dicks into anything, and their women would stick anything in their vag. Because of good hygiene. That's actually one of the major contributing factors to the increase in prevalence in STIs all the way to the 1800s when disease all across the board frankly spiked because people's hygiene actually got worse between the 1500-1900s. Personal hygiene is pretty common in our setting, and Redic honestly doesn't stick his dick in places you generally wouldn't want to. He's not fucking slums prostitutes, for instance. But yes, Syphilus, gonorrhoea, and chlamydia are a thing. As well as crabs, obviously.



Yujiro created nothing, he just exists. His existence gives nearly no value to the world. He is literally a parasite who never lived up to his own father's life and never was fulfilled as he was. Hence why he moves around nomadically, leeching from other people's lives vicariously. He is one of the most dangerous things in the world the zenith of so much, but he has... nothing. He is, nothing. He even feared just the sight of his own father and flipped out being judged by him and... his entire life became nothing but trying to leave a legacy. Because he know he has achieved and built nothing.

Except for Baki. Who has out grown, out achieved, out done his father in every facet of life.

And he made the miso soup.
Well, if you haven't seen it, then that doesn't happen. People who are categorical are almost always idiots, guess why? Masutatsu Oyama, google that name, you moron and never try to be categorical again, especially if it exceeds your meager imagination. No, it doesn't improve things. It just shows that you don't give a shit about the players and all you want is to create your own Mary Sue in your game. You absolutely don't know how to conduct any kind of discussion in which your opponent turns out to be right. I've shoved your face into your own diarrhea several times already, but you still won't deign to comment or admit that you're wrong. In fact, you're only showing yourself as a politicized hysteric from California, lmao. You're just a regular nerd, just like in your American comedies, lol. You know absolutely nothing and yet you're talking about topics that are as far from your miserable life as your game is from being called "good". This conversation is so pointless that I think we should make a collage out of it and nominate it for the Pulitzer Prize. And as for Baki, how come Yujiro didn't create anything? Are you fucking nuts? He beat up a few Americans and even impregnated Diana, a real slap in the face of American suprematism, lmao. I won't even mention that he created Baki and Jack. Literally. As for the fact that he saved people, I suppose you, as an American, aren't too interested in hearing about it, but he also made a cult of himself. And he creates a ton of shit every day. Just like every other person on the planet, so by your logic we are all creators.

He is a billion times cooler, even as a fictional character, than you will ever be in real life.
 

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Swaing people on the fence and such, yeah. There's validity in that, but the responses to Denji is just masturbating for me, basically. There's no swaying anything there haha. Someone like you? Maaaaaaaaaaybe but we have to know our own audience too, and if we go to a rock paper scissors thing we might actually drive our fans and community.

We need to figure a way to have a living breathing believable world and not over-sell details or quests to people because, Orlox is right, if we start putting markers and arrows and yellow paint, people will stop engaging with and paying attention to the lore and the world and just looking at markers and paint.

There's a medium between accessibility and immersion/engagement. The... sword had a clear objective for instance haha. And ALT can highlight it.

The hiding area, I think its fine. It'd be better if we had an animated turning to slow the turning and looking down and more pacing and such, and we need to populate that room with 10+ bandits with their backs turned in the living area. That way people understand WHY you can't be caught.
That comment was about people runting not about any instructions. RGB battle system was just one particular example of what I meant about simplyfying - and only coz you asked about details, not because I want it to be exactly like that. All my examples and ideas have only one purpose - example of "how it can be". Markers was just an example as well as highlighting the doors.
Any creator build his project from some ideas and examples they saw here and there. These are the bricks from which he builds the palace of his game.
But all I can do is to write my opinion and present some decent arguments. To use them, to ignore them, to discard them - your personal decision, as creator. There is dozens of gamedesign books with thousands of examples for every game aspect. And few dozens of rules - what to do and why exactly.
Only you choose - ignore them or use them, it is your decision, as it is gamedesigner responsibility to have complete exhaustive vision of the project inside his head. Should he fail to do so, or should he succceed, should he listen or should he not - his personal responsibility. All the rules and "how to"s will not change - regardless of using or discarding.

As for "a living breathing believable world and not over-sell details" - details is huge part of what makes the world alive. Imagine the room with one armchair and a window. Is it alive enough? What if you turn the chair a little - so that the rays of light from the window illuminate it a little from the side ? What if you add an open book lying on it and a cup of steaming tea on the floor nearby? Will it make the room more alive or less?

There are like 2 people ranting and ranting over here and they are honestly borderline mental for ranting about a fucking door instead of spending 2 seconds on the quest log. It is absolutely baffling that the state of gaming had been reduced to, do we need 10 different markers on one fucking doors? Should we use crayon for texts next time?
Try to actually read my messages before replying next time. Maybe you'll see what I tried to say.
 
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