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That's not always true, of course I ultimately have to work on everything, so I have to decide what's worth the effort and what isn't, but there have been suggestions that made sense and were made into game's features, like a way for Princesses to get recruited that doesn't involve making their reign fall or (no shit) pregnancy, which I didn't originally plan.
As long as the critics I get are constructive, I always take them into consideration.
Cool cool. Should've thought about critics and stuff, concerning the fact that I know a lot of people that are into writing, and my best subject is English. *facepalm*
Guess what I meant to say is that the direction you'll take it is your choice. Whether it's influenced by others is a different story.
 

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That's not always true, of course I ultimately have to work on everything, so I have to decide what's worth the effort and what isn't, but there have been suggestions that made sense and were made into game's features, like a way for Princesses to get recruited that doesn't involve making their reign fall or (no shit) pregnancy, which I didn't originally plan.
As long as the critics I get are constructive, I always take them into consideration.
Imo you and the rest of the team did a great job on the game so far. There's at least 1 monstergirl for everyone, the humor and musically atmosphere is on point and you actually listen to your patrons which is not that common anymore nowadays.

To those who don't like the game...look for something else. I hate most games with tentacle stuff inside but do you see me bitching around here like a maniac?
 
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People dislike the direction the game took, not the style, which is why 8chan insisted in using towerfag assets, basically to make it better than he could ever do it. I mean, Gats portraits are too quality, and a lot of the animation and sprites are decent enough. From what I saw in the archives, that's the reason for them to use it, and it makes sense. Their problem is battlerape being 50% of the game and stupid things like how lust works and the semen collecting quests.
Imitation as flattery? That's kind of them, but ultimately that decision is gonna backfire like it just did.

Great, take the public portraits and create something else. That means no Babs or that they decide on the secondary characters in a different manner.

But the fact is that if I don't want a princess to get battleraped in THIS game, she won't have to be since I don't put stuff into lust for it, I can ignore the seme collecting quest (since it's the only level 3 IIRC) and there's so many different choices in princesses, I think that some of those anons are stretching the issue for outrage points.

Look, if they want to make a better mousetrap, they gotta do it outside of this game. Hell, I know that there were two other attempts that really didn't get far until TF did his thing. I can't say it'll be easy to coordinate, especially on the chans. But my best thing to consider is what can THEY come up with that takes away this particular system and could possibly create a game that fits their standards?

As I see it, in AAA and other forms of gaming, if a developer wants to take a system from a similar game, they ignore that game and focus on their own. So I'd like to think that the anons can do what they do, gain some inspiration, and figure out what their game should do and have.

*shrug*

That'd be my advice. Whether they follow or not is up to them. Personally, I like this game and I can ignore one or two systems that they talk about incessantly.
 

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pregnancy, which I didn't originally plan
For being something you didn't plan it sure as hell have taken a lot of time. Nice to know princesses can also get pregnant from the enemies. Disgusting. Also, sounds to me like you're only up to take criticism when it doesn't hurt your feelings. My point being that you probably were into it before implementing it.
There's at least 1 monstergirl for everyone [...] To those who don't like the game...look for something else. I hate most games with tentacle stuff inside but do you see me bitching around here like a maniac?
Hard to say when all the girls have the same content pushed for them. All girls can be raped, all girls can be slut, and all girls are pretty much into the same shit. You're better off masturbating to the CYAO charts. As for the bitching, I like towergirls since I saw the chart 2 years ago and coming back to see this travesty is enough motive for me to bitch about it. In the original charts if you don't like tentacles, that was ok because there was maybe one princess into tentacles and the other ones weren't, with this game is like since one girl was into tentacles then all girls are into tentacles too. Get what the problem is? And I mean it, that was the justification towerfag gave as for why there's rape in the game and why the princesses are sluts, "One girl was an slut so obviously all of them also are sluts".
Great, take the public portraits and create something else. That means no Babs or that they decide on the secondary characters in a different manner.
That, sprites and artstyle were the consensus, everything else was deemed terrible, from the gameplay, to the premise, to the map and "fetish" decisions, everything was simply terrible. Moders are already working with new sprites and the such, so I don't see what the big problem is, although they'll probably need whatever they need from this game, either as placeholder or as final. Anons are already working on all that, so there's no need to worry about it. If you want information about one of the games, here it is:

And nice to know you don't use an useless stat, which makes me wonder why it is in the game in the first place. Is not a question of choice, is simply bad game design, specially when the corruption stat exist. These is exactly the kind of things that led to the mod. Good for you to be able to be an ignorant walking piece of meat, you know what they say, ignorance is a bliss.
 

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For being something you didn't plan it sure as hell have taken a lot of time. Nice to know princesses can also get pregnant from the enemies. Disgusting. Also, sounds to me like you're only up to take criticism when it doesn't hurt your feelings. My point being that you probably were into it before implementing it.

Hard to say when all the girls have the same content pushed for them. All girls can be raped, all girls can be slut, and all girls are pretty much into the same shit. You're better off masturbating to the CYAO charts. As for the bitching, I like towergirls since I saw the chart 2 years ago and coming back to see this travesty is enough motive for me to bitch about it. In the original charts if you don't like tentacles, that was ok because there was maybe one princess into tentacles and the other ones weren't, with this game is like since one girl was into tentacles then all girls are into tentacles too. Get what the problem is? And I mean it, that was the justification towerfag gave as for why there's rape in the game and why the princesses are sluts, "One girl was an slut so obviously all of them also are sluts".
You're really blowing this way out of proportion. Rape in the game, regardless of whats the dev "excuse" to implement it is a customization, and one that you are not even forced to partake in if you don't like it, as its been mentioned previous time and you have been just ignoring battle rape can be turned on or off and wont even happen if you don't put points in lust stat, which is not tied to any other stat and give you no benefit at all gameplaywise. And about the bitching, you can bitch about anything you want, thats your choice. What we are answering to and trying to tell you, is that you're not forced to do these things you're bitching about, as, the game doesn't force you to do it. You'll keep repeating that same point, and we'll keep telling you this.
 

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battle rape can be turned on or off and wont even happen if you don't put points in lust stat, which is not tied to any other stat and give you no benefit at all gameplaywise.
That was only implemented recently as a direct result of what happened recently, and still leave you with the problems mentioned so much before: Bad game design, ranging from an useless and confusing stat, to quests directly tied to the rape you actually turned off, not to mention the dog fucking in the first place. Rape does make 50% of a game that barely have any other porn content, no matter how many mental gymnastics you want to do about it, after all even when you can get the rape scenes from other means you can still get them with rape in the first place and easily. I'll bitch as much as I want to, specially if it helps people not to fall for this as I did. Hell, I'd even advertise the 0.6 version just because it's a better game. Dunno what happened to towerfag after that.
 

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If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything.

For example, you can say "I played version x.xx.x and while in this area, I noticed that this event happened. It didn't work or it didn't sit well with me. Is there an alternative or is there a bugfix?" <---- This is the kind of statement that devs do want to hear.

However, when you say "This game is shit, I don't like NTR, the design of the game is offensive, and the developer is a very mean troll." <--- That is putting the game and the dev "on blast" which doesn't tell us anything other than the person who wrote that needed some "safe space", hugs from mommy, is very easily offended, unresolved anger issues, is prone to extreme butthurt, and likely had a very bad fap session.

Ask yourselves this.. do you want to help the developer or do you want to sound worse than tumblrina with raging PMS????

Annnnd I will start handing out warnings if you don't stay on topic and remain constructive.
 
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If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything.

For example, you can say "I played version x.xx.x and while in this area, I noticed that this event happened. It didn't work or it didn't sit well with me. Is there an alternative or is there a bugfix?" <---- This is the kind of statement that devs do want to hear.

However, when you say "This game is shit, I don't like NTR, the design of the game is offensive, and the developer is a very mean troll." <--- That is putting the game and the dev "on blast" which doesn't tell us anything other than the person who wrote that needed some "safe space", hugs from mommy, is very easily offended, unresolved anger issues, is prone to extreme butthurt, and likely had a very bad fap session.

Ask yourselves this.. do you want to help the developer or do you want to sound worse than tumblrina with raging PMS????

Annnnd I will start handing out warnings if you don't stay on topic and remain constructive.
The topic has shifted. There is more than just bugfixes and NTR going on now and is in the realm of legal action. I'll let Gats explain.
 
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At this point this is far deeper than just "Waaaah I don't like it"
The irony is rich. Have you noticed thats what you have been doing since Towerfag started replying your posts? Its a constant "I don't like this and it should be changed" coming from you. Everything you write come off as condescending, like if we don't accept what you have to tell us, then we are (as you mentioned on your previous posts) "ignorant walking pieces of meat". As I said, you're blowing this way out of proportion, spewing stuff like its the most undeniable facts anyone can even think of. The game is free to play, Patreon is optional, so you're not "saving" anyone from falling for anything, they can still download the game and decide for themselves if they want it, instead of listening your expert opinions.

Your opinion is just as valid as anyone's, but if you're gonna be a dick about it and doesn't have the intention to help when expressing it, you shouldn't expect others to receive it well either.
 
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The topic has shifted. There is more than just bugfixes and NTR going on now and is in the realm of legal action. I'll let Gats explain.
I'm aware of that. I'm got getting involved because I'll just let those 2 work it out.

You've proven you can read a post and understand the title of the thread. Remember that this thread is titled "Towergirls Kingdom: Conquest". So how about keeping the thread about this game, not about the issues between the creators. It's not that intelligent to drag personal issues into a game thread, isn't it?
Be intelligent... let the creators, lawyers and judges work that out.

We are NOT going to debate who is right or wrong in this thread.
Again, this is NOT the thread for that conversation.
 
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And nice to know you don't use an useless stat, which makes me wonder why it is in the game in the first place. Is not a question of choice, is simply bad game design, specially when the corruption stat exist. These is exactly the kind of things that led to the mod. Good for you to be able to be an ignorant walking piece of meat, you know what they say, ignorance is a bliss.
That's my choice. Which is the point. Stuff can be in the game that I don't use because I choose to use it or not.
Kind of like you don't want jokers in poker but as the mod has stated, this isn't the thread for that.

As it stands, the topic is about the game and I've given advice about what channers can do. Whether you want to take it or not is up to you. I'm going back to enjoying the game. If they make something that I check out, I'll like that too if it gets up enough. Just like I play the Haramase Simulator and Katawa Shoujo, it just means their versions take longer.

Hope they'll do better with it. When they get their game to a decent version, I hope they'll find a way to put it here. But until then, I'm focusing on this game and its content. I like the progeny stuff and giving Kobold more of a backstory. Here's hoping there's more as the kingdoms rise and fall.
 

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I am one to stay very far away from RPGM games, but this one caught my eye. So I'll ask this question:
Is this game any good? Is it worth a download?
Should I continue to stay far away?

EDIT: After reading through the many pages of this thread, I've come to the conclusion to stay as far away as I can from this game.
 
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I am one to stay very far away from RPGM games, but this one caught my eye. So I'll ask this question:
Is this game any good? Is it worth a download?
Should I continue to stay far away?

EDIT: After reading through the many pages of this thread, I've come to the conclusion to stay as far away as I can from this game.
The game is pretty good. The bullshit drama isn't. It's an action RPG type deal which has you working on different aspects of economy to sabotage princesses while currying their favor. The game has greatly expanded on everything along with good progression on most of it.

Ignore the negative marketing here, download the public version and see if you like it or not. Because at the end of the day, if you like the game, that should be what matters, not what a whole bunch of people that constantly yell like harpies one way or another about the game tell you what's best for you.
 

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Can we simply end this now? How often are you guys trying to talk about stuff you don't even have all the informations about?
 
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And yet we have how many pages of this thread with the developer of the game lying about why Gats is taking legal action? Whether you like it or not, this isn't something that can be ignored. It will be brought up, repeatedly. If not by people like me that want to explain the situation and call out the dev on his lies, or by people like starfox wanting to complain, or even by the dev himself, then by people new to the thread that don't know what is going on. And before you say it, we both know there will be people that don't read through the thread first. Towercuck kicked a legal hornet's nest and pissed off an online community renowned for its vengeful side at the same time.
I'm honestly not sure if this is a reading comprehension issue or if you are simply incapable of acknowledging any opinion different from your own.

A mod told you repeatedly that this isn't the place to discuss whatever legal issues may or may not be going on in the background. Everyone that's still reading this thread is fully aware of the backstory between Towerfag and Gats, mostly because you and that one other guy keep repeating it every other post.

At this point we don't give a shit anymore.
We're here to discuss the actual game, not the drama you seem so incredibly invested in.
 
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1. I have no issue with differing opinions, though you seem to have a problem with facts. Opinions are not the issue here, nor I have had much to say on the subject of opinions. I've been speaking facts.
Your definition of facts is somewhat debatable.
That's not the point though. Nowhere in my post was I debating whether or not you were speaking facts. I only said this thread is for discussing the game, not the drama surrounding it.

3. You seem to have an issue with numbers too. I've popped in on occasion, but I haven't "repeated it every other post." If anyone seems to take issue with disagreements, it would be you. Don't group me with everyone you disagree with.
Fair point.
I just checked and it was mostly starfox repeating the exact same argument over and over. You only occasionally chimed in to agree with him or like his posts, so my bad.

4. I don't actually give much of a shit about the drama going on. I just hate seeing lies being spread and people believing those lies without looking into it even a little. So I posted what Gats had to say on the subject, this way it isn't just one side spreading his version of the story.
Funny, cause that's been my motivation too. Apparently we have vastly different opinions on what constitutes a lie though.
As for Gats, you do realize he already stated his position in this thread, right? Should he feel the need to add anything here he surely would be able to do it himself.
 

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Several things wrong with this.
1. I have no issue with differing opinions, though you seem to have a problem with facts. Opinions are not the issue here, nor I have had much to say on the subject of opinions. I've been speaking facts.
2. I don't care if a mod or other random nobody is saying it. If the mod wants to ban me or whatever, go for it. I've given my reasons as to why I think the mod is wrong in this instance.
3. You seem to have an issue with numbers too. I've popped in on occasion, but I haven't "repeated it every other post." If anyone seems to take issue with disagreements, it would be you. Don't group me with everyone you disagree with and act like we are all one and the same. I only post when I feel something needs to be said (2 in this thread), or when responding to people who are either directly referencing me(4 in this thread) or asking an open question of which I am clearly apart of (1 in this thread). (7 in total, hardly every other post.)
4. I don't actually give much of a shit about the drama going on. I just hate seeing lies being spread and people believing those lies without looking into it even a little. So I posted what Gats had to say on the subject, this way it isn't just one side spreading his version of the story.
Oh god, just stop with the "we bring the light of truth to this world shrouded with ignorance" attitude, please. If you have brought truth/facts or whatever, it doesn't matter, just please stop discussing the subject (not to censor, but because this isn't the place for it, you can still make a topic in general discussion about this), you guys already made your points through the topic. At this point its just you guys talking about the same point over and over. This adds nothing to the topic or to the same thing you're defending.
 

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@DownTheDrain @Porn_Jesus @Dnds

Word of advice, at this point, the mods may intervene and I'll suggest you focus on the game because the other talk may drag you down. Sometimes, people have their hangups and won't be swayed by anything. I'm going to enjoy the game regardless of someone's very uninformed opinion about it that's meant to work as a negative ad campaign.
 
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