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starfox31114

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Wolf x Goblin was polled between the Patrons and won that month, that's how it got in. There are no monster animations planned in advance, only eventual poll winners!
That sucks. That's what you get for listening to patrons. This whole thing could have been avoided that way, but the fact that the wolf cave exist only for that scene is... I have no words.
I'm here for filthy pixel sex, not for anon board politics.
It is too much to ask to have standards about it?
 

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That sucks. That's what you get for listening to patrons. This whole thing could have been avoided that way, but the fact that the wolf cave exist only for that scene is... I have no words.
Can't see a single wrong thing with giving patrons what the majority of them demanded in the monthly poll that has that very same purpose.
 
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If it's standards that someone else gets to set for me then yes, that's too much to ask.
I have my own standards, I don't need yours.

If a game has content that is not to my liking I don't need to bitch about it, I simply don't play it.
Except that isn't an option here, especially with Towercuck going out of his way to try and keep anyone else from being able to make a towergirls game or mod, despite his lack of any legal right to do so. People want a Towergirls game, they just don't want this one, and he stepped way out of bounds by exercising legal copyrights he does not own to try and prevent anyone else from making one. Towercuck brought this on himself.
 
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starfox31114

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Can't see a single wrong thing with giving patrons what the majority of them demanded in the monthly poll that has that very same purpose.
Basically that you're replacing corporate decisions for patrons decisions. They both have negative effects for the games. I never understood that way of thinking. But it's your project, do as you please please. All I'm saying is, these kind of things will always bite you in the ass, whether it was made by suits or patrons.
 

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Except that isn't an option here, especially with Towercuck going out of his way to try and keep anyone else from being able to make a towergirls game or mod, despite his lack of any legal right to do so. People want a Towergirls game, they just don't want this one, and he stepped way out of bounds by exercising legal copyrights he does not own to try and prevent anyone else from making one. Towercuck brought this on himself.
What DownTheDrain still applies, though. If the game is so much not of your liking you can just give up on it and seek other games that are more fitting. If what you're saying is true and there is no legal right preventing anyone from making another game whats holding you guys from doing what you want?
 

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Basically that you're replacing corporate decisions for patrons decisions. They both have negative effects for the games. I never understood that way of thinking. But it's your project, do as you please please. All I'm saying is, these kind of things will always bite you in the ass, whether it was made by suits or patrons.
That becomes a problem only if somebody dislikes what the majority voted to the point he cannot enjoy the product anymore.
Said people tend to have a hard time enjoying a game a community contributes to create, fixating themselves over the single thing they dislike instead of enjoying all the rest. I do not have a solution for everybody.
 
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That becomes a problem only if somebody dislikes what the majority voted to the point he cannot enjoy the product anymore.
Said people tend to have a hard time enjoying a game a community contributes to create, fixating themselves over the single thing they dislike instead of enjoying all the rest. I do not have a solution for everybody.
Some people are just mad about every little fart they can smell from far away. Ignoring them is a good start, your patrons matter.
 

starfox31114

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That becomes a problem only if somebody dislikes what the majority voted to the point he cannot enjoy the product anymore.
Said people tend to have a hard time enjoying a game a community contributes to create, fixating themselves over the single thing they dislike instead of enjoying all the rest. I do not have a solution for everybody.
It's not only about likes or dislikes, it can even damage the reputation of your game. If you included this kind of content very far into development it would have balanced itself, but in this case it didn't, and as I can see it was one of the things that led to this problem. You also have to take in consideration who is really your audience at the time.
You can compare it with how disappointing the last Summertime Saga update was, because of the vote of the majority. You can't replace good direction with populism, specially when the majority tend to be wrong. It's not t about pleasing everyone either, is about a good pace in the game. The dog fucking feels really out of place, regardless of who included it.
Your patrons matter.
Hardly. If you are the developer you are the boss regardless of who throw money at you, which is why I insist this is just a replacement of suits, and if that's the case I can just stick to AAA games.
 

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It's not only about likes or dislikes, it can even damage the reputation of your game. If you included this kind of content very far into development it would have balanced itself, but in this case it didn't, and as I can see it was one of the things that led to this problem. You also have to take in consideration who is really your audience at the time.
You can compare it with how disappointing the last Summertime Saga update was, because of the vote of the majority. You can't replace good direction with populism, specially when the majority tend to be wrong. It's not t about pleasing everyone either, is about a good pace in the game. The dog fucking feels really out of place, regardless of who included it.

Hardly. If you are the developer you are the boss regardless of who throw money at you, which is why I insist this is just a replacement of suits, and if that's the case I can just stick to AAA games.
The choices I include in the polls are all choices I approve of, choices I know how to deal with, so I don't see what's wrong in letting the majority decide between options I'm fine with.
"The majority tends to be wrong" sounds soooo... wrong? If there's demand, the offer is bound to appear, that's how it goes and there's no wrong or right.

If another Monster animation wins a poll in future, that's going to be added too. Stop taking pixels so seriously.
 
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What DownTheDrain still applies, though. If the game is so much not of your liking you can just give up on it and seek other games that are more fitting. If what you're saying is true and there is no legal right preventing anyone from making another game whats holding you guys from doing what you want?
Nothing anymore, but that doesn't change what happened. A decent amount of progress was lost (or at least hindered) because of Towercuck's DMCAs and the mods not looking into things well enough to realize that he has nothing. We recovered fairly quickly and now the mods know to just ignore him, but that doesn't change the fact that he has actively tried to hinder the project because us not liking the way his game is going hurt his feels. He even tried again after we got his mess all cleaned up, but, like I said, the mods know to ignore him now.
From what I've heard, Towercuck has violated his contract with Gats. I'm guessing that action had something to do with it, considering how Gats has shutdown people who wanted to lock down his IP in the past, but nothing is confirmed. Gats has done a pretty good job of keeping the details quiet.
 
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Like you said, you don't know much about the details. There's much more going on under the surface.
Don't pretend to be out of the fire by pulling one line of text. I don't know the details of the legal trouble you've brought on yourself, but the rest are all facts that I saw unfold as they happened. Whatever shit you got yourself into, you've only got your over-inflated ego to blame.
 
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Don't pretend to be out of the fire by pulling one line of text. I don't know the details of the legal trouble you've brought on yourself, but the rest are all facts that I saw unfold as they happened. Whatever shit you got yourself into, you've only got your over-inflated ego to blame.
The ironic part is that he can't use the ego to put order in the game. At the end, he even had to add the turn NTR off button, and I still don't see the NTR tag. In any case, I'm better off paying attention to the mods.
 

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The ironic part is that he can't use the ego to put order in the game. At the end, he even had to add the turn NTR off button...
Yes, just like I added the possibility to hire Princesses without having their reigns fall (this after many requests), I added a switch to turn off the battlefucks after a single email I recieved from an 8ch user that did sound like a decent person.
It's not like there was any content locked behind that single feature.
 
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It's not like there was any content locked behind that single feature.
Are you kidding me? It's like the main feature of the game compared to the rest of the content. It's 90% of the purpose of the lust stat. There's a reason why people insist you basically kill 50% of the game. And you still call ot battlefuck when it's battlerape. Now I'm actually mad.
 

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Are you kidding me? It's like the main feature of the game compared to the rest of the content. It's 90% of the purpose of the lust stat. There's a reason why people insist you basically kill 50% of the game. And you still call ot battlefuck when it's battlerape. Now I'm actually mad.
You're wrong. It's 100% of the purpose of the Lust stat ;). There's no other point in giving Lust to a Princess except enabling battlefucks for her.
 
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