Oh god, just stop with the "we bring the light of truth to this world shrouded with ignorance" attitude, please. If you have brought truth/facts or whatever, it doesn't matter, just please stop discussing the subject (not to censor, but because this isn't the place for it, you can still make a topic in general discussion about this), you guys already made your points through the topic. At this point its just you guys talking about the same point over and over. This adds nothing to the topic or to the same thing you're defending.