hotNess

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Like the game and the various choices you can make. In addition to the various optional kinks, incest would be another good one. I would like the options for Myriam to be in an intimate relationship with her daughter or cousin.
 

Dylan741

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I already explained that cutting out the bestiality and putting it in a patch was an easy thing, because you could cut them out without any change in the story, the scenes had no influence on the rest of the game, but for the incest between Marc and Myriam, it wasn't the same, their relation add an influence on Myriam and her story, so changing the story because of Patreon ball busting could not be fixed easily with a patch.
Why? Because it would force me to make two different games, the story with the new family setting and one with the old family setting, and it would be a nightmare as it goes on and keep branching differently further and further. It would take more time to do an update, time not advancing the story, just for fixing one kink.
So I decided to rewrite my family setting and be done with it, taking in the forced change (if I wanted to keep going with the game) and doing what I can with it. I understand it caused frustration for some, but that was the best case of action for me to keep going, I had a lot of solutions offered, like just change to "land lady/tenant", and the answer is no... you can say what you want about the story in the game, that it's just porn and not Shakespeare, but I like my story to at least make some sense.
And if people think that the game do not deserve to be supported in this conditions, I can understand, if it was your main kink and the rest do not talk to you, I can't argue, everybody is entitle to their tastes and kinks, I hope that you find that perfect game out there, I know that it was kind of the reason why I made mine, because I wasn't finding my "fix". ^^
I like the game in is entirety so I don't mind at all, I honestly prefer that you could develop the story how you want, you did a superb work 'til now and it's fairly easy to give up on something like that in order to have a complete game to play.
I would not say that I wasn't hoping in something between Myriam and Katherine because I would be lying, but not at the price to see you having to struggle against Patreon. :)
 

Poser_Voyeur

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Zorlun Hi, love the latest update... Regarding Myriam's "dirtyness" kink and following on from her golden shower will you do anything more with her addiction side, maybe she can get drunk with Will's mum and on the dirtyness side if she gets too drunk and or high she doesn't make it to the toilet etc?
So long as it is optional. I don't want to see that.
 

ouch2020

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I really wish you'd just swallow your pride on this point and trust that "someone" would release a patch and your fans would know to get it, like practically every other game this has happened to. Honestly the fact you aren't going this route kinda feels like you think your fans are too dumb to know how to set up the game to play it correctly under those conditions.
Actually, if you look in the thread (easier, searching for "patch", though may still give you a lot of results, I think), there is someone who said time ago he did some minor modifications, and continued playing having the game roughly as originally intended, with Marc as son, thus the incest.
The same person indicated that if there is going to be content with Marc in future release, and the person in question sees a way to continue doing the same kind of modification so that the incest element stays in, he will try release a patch, after the March public release of the game with Prometheus patch (that would be 3.03, if I count correctly), and if he can find the time, continue doing the same after, at least when there is Marc content (or any reference that should be adapted to keep the incest element).

Doing some stuff on one's computer is one thing, releasing it to others, another matter, requires at least a bit of testing.

Zorlun did not say anything against that idea - he did not try to kill the idea.

However, Zorlun cannot be involved in any way to such an attempt, even just publicly/"officially" endorse it, even less help with it, because Patreon told him clearly that if he is anyway involved in that, even on a different platform than is not Patreon, they will kill his Patreon account, and he needs the income from that.
That also means that, even more since he will not be the one doing it, he will not be able to support such a patch.
 

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Actually, if you look in the thread (easier, searching for "patch", though may still give you a lot of results, I think), there is someone who said time ago he did some minor modifications, and continued playing having the game roughly as originally intended, with Marc as son, thus the incest.
The same person indicated that if there is going to be content with Marc in future release, and the person in question sees a way to continue doing the same kind of modification so that the incest element stays in, he will try release a patch, after the March public release of the game with Prometheus patch (that would be 3.03, if I count correctly), and if he can find the time, continue doing the same after, at least when there is Marc content (or any reference that should be adapted to keep the incest element).

Doing some stuff on one's computer is one thing, releasing it to others, another matter, requires at least a bit of testing.

Zorlun did not say anything against that idea - he did not try to kill the idea.

However, Zorlun cannot be involved in any way to such an attempt, even just publicly/"officially" endorse it, even less help with it, because Patreon told him clearly that if he is anyway involved in that, even on a different platform than is not Patreon, they will kill his Patreon account, and he needs the income from that.
That also means that, even more since he will not be the one doing it, he will not be able to support such a patch.

Yeah, and such patch would have to be by someone that is completely, 100% not connected to him in any way. Like that Prometheus guy:cautious:
 

michelita

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Guys…there are so many games filled with incest or speudo incest come on… honestly i don’t understand all the drama over that evolution or rewritting.
I would even say i find this quite refreshing!
You mean slowburn games that blueball their audience for 2 years waiting for as much as a handjob scene? That's what was so refreshing about this game.

It's the only one that I've seen that completely did away with family setting after a patreon review with no plans of adding it back via 3rd party patch, hence the controversy. I can see it not being a big deal had the game started out with no incest but it was quite jarring when I saw it removed and the interactions between MC and Marc having a completely different feel. To add to the disappointment this also denies any possible scenes with MC and Katherine.

I understand Zorlun's reasoning to cut it altogether because I have no idea how the different branches may play out in the future. We could only know for sure when we look at it in retrospective.
 

ouch2020

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Yeah, and such patch would have to be by someone that is completely, 100% not connected to him in any way. Like that Prometheus guy:cautious:
Well, I know going to find the posts I was referring to it's a bit of work, so kind of a pain, but if you look at that, you may realise the person I was referring to is effectively someone with no connection whatsoever with Zorlun, aside both having an F95account, having two languages in common, and the fact the person in question is sponsoring on Patreon and cannot change for practical reasons.
 
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supppppbroooo

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Duno if it's been addressed before, but when Cassius gets next to Myriam in bed in chapter 3, I get an error that cant be ignored with only rollback and open.. Is it a bug for everyone? or only it happens with me?!
 

CrazyRabbit

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Duno if it's been addressed before, but when Cassius gets next to Myriam in bed in chapter 3, I get an error that cant be ignored with only rollback and open.. Is it a bug for everyone? or only it happens with me?!
Here you go

Yep it was reported (just a few post up), it's a simple mislabeling error, it's fixed but it will only come in next update.
But don't worry, you are not missing anything, it arrives just at the end.
 

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Random question:
Didn't the guests at the dinner party also work for her dad's company? Will there be any pushback from that, as in, will any of them be fired or demoted? Some if not all took advantage, I would say.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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Random question:
Didn't the guests at the dinner party also work for her dad's company? Will there be any pushback from that, as in, will any of them be fired or demoted? Some if not all took advantage, I would say.
Tbf I really don't think Myriam wants to go tell her dad that a bunch of his workers convinced her to suck all their cocks in her bathroom before they gang banged her. I mean who knows, this game is kinda wild but I think that would be a little much lol
 

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Tbf I really don't think Myriam wants to go tell her dad that a bunch of his workers convinced her to suck all their cocks in her bathroom before they gang banged her. I mean who knows, this game is kinda wild but I think that would be a little much lol
New scene or something I totally missed out?
 
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clowns234

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Tbf I really don't think Myriam wants to go tell her dad that a bunch of his workers convinced her to suck all their cocks in her bathroom before they gang banged her. I mean who knows, this game is kinda wild but I think that would be a little much lol
Anthony might not have gone quietly when he was fired. He could have spilled the beans to get back at Myriam and her dad. It's at least possible I think.
As I said, just a random question. :D
 

Mommysbuttslut

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New scene or something I totally missed out?
You probably got the date with Lucy instead. End of chapter 2 if you're still with Anthony then he pretty much pimps Myriam out to a bunch of his coworkers for office politics reasons. Imo the date with Lucy is way better anyway, I didn't even bother keeping my Anthony save after seeing about a minute of the scene. If you like seeing Myriam abused, debased and gangbanged though then I guess that scene is probably the best for it so far.
 
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Anthony might not have gone quietly when he was fired. He could have spilled the beans to get back at Myriam and her dad. It's at least possible I think.
As I said, just a random question. :D
i think one of them had their phone out and was taking pics or recording it, & that one guy that was there was the same one she blew at his office and he takes a pic of her facial and sends it to her phone, so he already has blackmail material on his phone
 

ouch2020

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Anthony might not have gone quietly when he was fired. He could have spilled the beans to get back at Myriam and her dad. It's at least possible I think.
As I said, just a random question. :D
"Technically speaking", Anthony made a video of the whole thing, although just on his mobile phone and not a professional camera.
That means that he could have sent it to the others, and that he could still have it.
Zorlun was very explicit that for him Anthony was a kind of "plot excuse" to explain why Myriam could have some tendency from the start, though even that was in part ruined by Patreon (since he had to take away the "married from x years"), so Anthony was never meant to stay for long, and unless one choses the "early end" after the party (improbable for most people, because would cut greatly the playtime) Zorlun said explicitly he does not foresee nor want Anthony to come back.
But the video could also be used by someone else, e.g. the infamous Marc having got it from Anthony as kind of "revenge porn" (just because there is no way she would go to the police against Marc), or one of Anthony's colleagues who were there and could have got it from Anthony.
 
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