VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.08a+p] [Zorlun]

[Xill]

View attachment 1507679 Hey there
I just wanted to know how do I get the first choice with the priest

Can't answer that question but I can you give the greatest secret of the 21st century.

"windows key+shift+s"

You're welcome.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

As they just said, you need 20 in Trust for the choice (or 25 for the automatic choice), but next update I'll change the automatic choice to 30.

I think I saw the automatic choice (the true believer one) already at 30

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Can't answer that question but I can you give the greatest secret of the 21st century.

"windows key+shift+s"

You're welcome.

This has been my most used key combination apart from CTRL + C and CTRL + V.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

This has been my most used key combination apart from CTRL + C and CTRL + V.

Don’t forget F5 refresh dammit!

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Don’t forget F5 refresh dammit!

Oh, are you referring to CTRL + F5 for a hard refresh? Most definitely.

 

[ouch2020]

Hoo boy i cant wait to have Marc have his way with Myriam, hopefully we also get a scene where Marc has fun with Myriam while she is in gym clothes

Well, there is already some scene, depending on the path and choices maker her go for the "pretending to sleep" and then dominant Marc/submissive Myriam when there is the evening at home with the kids, then get her going with the students at the museum (if you did not kick out Anthony, even if you fought with him, that gives an extra scene, but it is not necessary). In alternative, make her have enough trust and chose the "must be a dream" in the evening at home with the kids, then do the museum stuff with the students (to have a "lighter" version).. In both cases, you get quite some action with Marc.
About the gym clothes idea, there is one context where that could happen "easily", the school, which is also one of the environments where Marc could easily interact with Myriam.

A clue on possible future interactions could also come from the words used, although that may also be linked to the fact Zorlun has shown great English, but warned he may not be exempt from "slips" - i.e. in some scenario/path, Marc uses words like "whore" and "slut", but they are not the same.
"Whore" is a (vulgar) synonymous of "prostitute", i.e. is paid or anyway receive economic advantages, even if a token (actually, I guess if Marc wanted to add to the humiliation, would do that with a token payment of any kind, as a "cheap whore" underlining "cheap", a "cheap whore" is considered below an expensive one, like in a hierarchy. That may open the door to some future intentions on his side (at the very least, has already referred to "porn" and "Internet" ). A "slut" is also no academic language ;-), but more a reference to being sexually "easy" and going with multiple partners, eventually even casual ones. And if things are gone in the abusive submissive/dominant connection, it would not be possible that in future Marc uses also words like "slave" or even some other (thought using "slave" would imply a "master", I guess himself), since he is already pretending she follow his (sexual) instructions without question (though she still try a bit to object, at least sometime, and will be interesting if she will continue, maybe getting willpower and dominance stats up from other situations) .
It depends how far down he tries to push the thing before it eventually explodes on his face (or not, it is possible that when it will come to the multiple endings for the game, eventually one situation overlapping with others may be that no matter what else she or he do, she continues to have that kind of sub relation with Marc, at least for some time).

Notice in social contexts, a woman paid for sex is considered a prostitute and socially, if not legally, condemned, a woman getting a "sugar daddy" or being a "trophy wife for a rich husband married for the money" is mostly considered socially acceptable (or at least, pretended to), but neither "sugar daddy" nor "trophy wife" apply really to Myriam, although in one path, Anthony is planning a dinner with colleagues showing her off - from the story, she is the one that brought in the money, not Anthony.
But, do not read too much in all of the above it, it may just be that Zorlun used those words to put some sexual terms without thinking about the nuance, there is a dialogue where Marc uses expression like "cheating whore" , but actually it would be perfectly OK, and could seem even more adapt, "cheating slut", because he has, and there is, indication she had sex with others, but no indication about making a profit out of it or selling herself, and some would say a "slut" is worst than a "whore", because a "slut" is "free of charge enthousiastic does it with everyone".
Sorry, it may not be very clear, but I am trying to put myself in someone else's mindset, so it is not easy, though I did meet people with certain views.

 

[ouch2020]

Now, in a way this was already mentioned, but I am curious if Zorlun will give us a bit more info about the logic (assuming he has fixed in stone even these aspects)...

In terms of future interactions, I've got the impression that the characters which are at least potential sexual participants are the ones that get the "full introduction", e.g. "Stella Queen, alias Spark Plug or Turbo, the high-voltage teen, teenager The Star member The big little start of the gym team, full of energy and character" (same kind of introduction was done for Marc, Anthony, Katherine, her girlfriend, etc.).
Though it seems that (unfortunately) for fear of people losing focus on the main character (Myriam), or getting too much branching, Zorlun foresee Myriam as the only female character interacting (sexually, at least) with any male and eventually female character (and animal, alien or creature, if the player activated that ), and if interacting with female, only one on one and only without any male involvement whatsoever.

To stay in the example of Stella (but could apply also to other characters) Stella is evidently jealous of William (or better, of Myriam), so there could be some potential there without even need for (sexual) interaction with Myriam, or for some extra interaction.
It is true that young ladies (and even some not that young) do not need to actually want the man, to be jealous of him giving (or even just seeming to give) attention to another woman (nope, not a theory, practical experience :-D), but if we forget that...

E.g. if Myriam did not do anything with William, helping Stella get him, could actually give her "positive points".
In a more naughty variant , Myriam having done something with William, introducing William and Stella to sex interactions with each other by participating, again as a kind of positive action from herself to help them get together, since she does care about William, and she does show to care about Stella, in the end, she seems close in age to Katherine.
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I think it would not go against the fact the game is centered on Myriam, her choices, and their consequences, because if Myriam has done something with William, and even if she has not but we know William is "hot for her" (or even really in love), she may have at least two aspects (simplifying) to worry/consider about.
Can she be a in serious long term relation with someone her son's age ? And if things with Marc went down the hard nasty way and she is sub to Marc, who is trying to push her down, will she get saved by keeping the interactions with positive characters like William's or the school director, or if she is really in the worst/hardest path with Marc, will she be so pushed down that she will feel unworthy of William and his love and try to steer him towards Stella for his own good (and how would that sacrifice play for her in the end, positively because she made a choice, or negatively because she gets more down) ?

There is a number of characters for which something similar could apply.
E.g. Evelyn at the "swinger club" , Myriam does not need to participate, but if she has the opportunity to see Evelyn doing stuff even just once or twice, and maybe talk with her about it, how would she react ? Would she end up doing stuff herself ? Depending on the player choices about what Myriam does, says and feels, that could allow to modify the stats (as is already happening in the game), and at the same time, would still be coherent with the fact Myriam is the main character, and the fact the game follows the paths of her life depending on the choices and interactions, how she reacts to those interactions and to the events she witnesses and/or experiences.

At the same time, Zorlun has introduced a number of characters, plus some that were not introduced by name but clearly have potential for coming back in "action" [ISPOILER ](the bullies in the underpass, the guy in the metro, the young ones at the horse riding, the two guys in the metro taking pictures and saying they needed to get again the metro to see if they get her), and at least for the bullies and the young ones at the horse riding, has already indicated something can happen in future [/ISPOILER].
So, in the end he may have introduced characters he will not use in any interaction, sexual or not, for lack of time to develop the game (to stay in the first example I used, it is possible Stella will never interact again with Myriam in any way, even not sexual).
Honestly, I think it would be a pity , it would feel a bit like a waste after doing all the work to lay down all the characters and the many possibilities of exploring interactions (sexual, but even not sexual, e.g. there was no hint of any sexual possibility with the old man at the stables, and my guess is that there will never be any sexual interaction with him) and the changes in Myriam and other characters.

 

[Hrk19]

Well, there is already some scene, depending on the path and choices maker her go for the "pretending to sleep" and then dominant Marc/submissive Myriam when there is the evening at home with the kids, then get her going with the students at the museum (if you did not kick out Anthony, even if you fought with him, that gives an extra scene, but it is not necessary). In alternative, make her have enough trust and chose the "must be a dream" in the evening at home with the kids, then do the museum stuff with the students (to have a "lighter" version).. In both cases, you get quite some action with Marc.
About the gym clothes idea, there is one context where that could happen "easily", the school, which is also one of the environments where Marc could easily interact with Myriam.

A clue on possible future interactions could also come from the words used, although that may also be linked to the fact Zorlun has shown great English, but warned he may not be exempt from "slips" - i.e. in some scenario/path, Marc uses words like "whore" and "slut", but they are not the same.
"Whore" is a (vulgar) synonymous of "prostitute", i.e. is paid or anyway receive economic advantages, even if a token (actually, I guess if Marc wanted to add to the humiliation, would do that with a token payment of any kind, as a "cheap whore" underlining "cheap", a "cheap whore" is considered below an expensive one, like in a hierarchy. That may open the door to some future intentions on his side (at the very least, has already referred to "porn" and "Internet" ). A "slut" is also no academic language ;-), but more a reference to being sexually "easy" and going with multiple partners, eventually even casual ones. And if things are gone in the abusive submissive/dominant connection, it would not be possible that in future Marc uses also words like "slave" or even some other (thought using "slave" would imply a "master", I guess himself), since he is already pretending she follow his (sexual) instructions without question (though she still try a bit to object, at least sometime, and will be interesting if she will continue, maybe getting willpower and dominance stats up from other situations) .
It depends how far down he tries to push the thing before it eventually explodes on his face (or not, it is possible that when it will come to the multiple endings for the game, eventually one situation overlapping with others may be that no matter what else she or he do, she continues to have that kind of sub relation with Marc, at least for some time).

Notice in social contexts, a woman paid for sex is considered a prostitute and socially, if not legally, condemned, a woman getting a "sugar daddy" or being a "trophy wife for a rich husband married for the money" is mostly considered socially acceptable (or at least, pretended to), but neither "sugar daddy" nor "trophy wife" apply really to Myriam, although in one path, Anthony is planning a dinner with colleagues showing her off - from the story, she is the one that brought in the money, not Anthony.
But, do not read too much in all of the above it, it may just be that Zorlun used those words to put some sexual terms without thinking about the nuance, there is a dialogue where Marc uses expression like "cheating whore" , but actually it would be perfectly OK, and could seem even more adapt, "cheating slut", because he has, and there is, indication she had sex with others, but no indication about making a profit out of it or selling herself, and some would say a "slut" is worst than a "whore", because a "slut" is "free of charge enthousiastic does it with everyone".
Sorry, it may not be very clear, but I am trying to put myself in someone else's mindset, so it is not easy, though I did meet people with certain views.

i was talking about future updates i already seen all marc stuff

 

[Zorlun]

Well, there is already some scene, depending on the path and choices maker her go for the "pretending to sleep" and then dominant Marc/submissive Myriam when there is the evening at home with the kids, then get her going with the students at the museum (if you did not kick out Anthony, even if you fought with him, that gives an extra scene, but it is not necessary). In alternative, make her have enough trust and chose the "must be a dream" in the evening at home with the kids, then do the museum stuff with the students (to have a "lighter" version).. In both cases, you get quite some action with Marc.
About the gym clothes idea, there is one context where that could happen "easily", the school, which is also one of the environments where Marc could easily interact with Myriam.

A clue on possible future interactions could also come from the words used, although that may also be linked to the fact Zorlun has shown great English, but warned he may not be exempt from "slips" - i.e. in some scenario/path, Marc uses words like "whore" and "slut", but they are not the same.
"Whore" is a (vulgar) synonymous of "prostitute", i.e. is paid or anyway receive economic advantages, even if a token (actually, I guess if Marc wanted to add to the humiliation, would do that with a token payment of any kind, as a "cheap whore" underlining "cheap", a "cheap whore" is considered below an expensive one, like in a hierarchy. That may open the door to some future intentions on his side (at the very least, has already referred to "porn" and "Internet" ). A "slut" is also no academic language ;-), but more a reference to being sexually "easy" and going with multiple partners, eventually even casual ones. And if things are gone in the abusive submissive/dominant connection, it would not be possible that in future Marc uses also words like "slave" or even some other (thought using "slave" would imply a "master", I guess himself), since he is already pretending she follow his (sexual) instructions without question (though she still try a bit to object, at least sometime, and will be interesting if she will continue, maybe getting willpower and dominance stats up from other situations) .
It depends how far down he tries to push the thing before it eventually explodes on his face (or not, it is possible that when it will come to the multiple endings for the game, eventually one situation overlapping with others may be that no matter what else she or he do, she continues to have that kind of sub relation with Marc, at least for some time).

Notice in social contexts, a woman paid for sex is considered a prostitute and socially, if not legally, condemned, a woman getting a "sugar daddy" or being a "trophy wife for a rich husband married for the money" is mostly considered socially acceptable (or at least, pretended to), but neither "sugar daddy" nor "trophy wife" apply really to Myriam, although in one path, Anthony is planning a dinner with colleagues showing her off - from the story, she is the one that brought in the money, not Anthony.
But, do not read too much in all of the above it, it may just be that Zorlun used those words to put some sexual terms without thinking about the nuance, there is a dialogue where Marc uses expression like "cheating whore" , but actually it would be perfectly OK, and could seem even more adapt, "cheating slut", because he has, and there is, indication she had sex with others, but no indication about making a profit out of it or selling herself, and some would say a "slut" is worst than a "whore", because a "slut" is "free of charge enthousiastic does it with everyone".
Sorry, it may not be very clear, but I am trying to put myself in someone else's mindset, so it is not easy, though I did meet people with certain views.

You have to see Marc as the young man exploring some dark desires, reaching the age were sex is this massive fantasy dreamed and imagined as a teenager. And his sexuality and curiosity inspired by a father that mix sex and domination as a weapon against his partner, and amplified by the easy access to internet porn, Marc created himself a very dark and twisted picture of what sex is.
So Marc recreat what he thinks sex should be about, domination, violence and abuse, using a demeaning language as he heard his father used and trying to dominate and manipulate Myriam as his father did, seeing her like the perfect toy to explore and experiment.

For the use of the words "slut" and "whore", the meaning will generally vary depending on who use them, for Anthony and Marc (and other characters of the sort) it's of course used as a demeaning tool to humiliate and broke Myriam's psyche and will. Though with other characters with a more positive and equal exchange with Myriam, it will just be used as "dirty words" to enhance excitement and role play.
In my mind for the use as a non english born user, I saw "slut" as less demeaning than the "whore", as if "slut" was like a first stage, a not fully fallen character, instead of "whore" as the most demeaning and with an image of a fully fallen character that reached the bottom, notably when adding another point to it, like "cheap" or "worthless", etc...
As you said, there is a notion of monetary exchange with the "whore", unlike "slut", putting an even worse connotation to it, because the use of sex as a profession is generally socially frown upon, which "slut", even if frown upon socially, is just for fun, so you're not fully fallen at this stage.
Of course, this is just some semantic, all this isn't to be taken as facts or opinions, this is just the idea behind the use of the two words.

Now, in a way this was already mentioned, but I am curious if Zorlun will give us a bit more info about the logic (assuming he has fixed in stone even these aspects)...

In terms of future interactions, I've got the impression that the characters which are at least potential sexual participants are the ones that get the "full introduction", e.g. "Stella Queen, alias Spark Plug or Turbo, the high-voltage teen, teenager The Star member The big little start of the gym team, full of energy and character" (same kind of introduction was done for Marc, Anthony, Katherine, her girlfriend, etc.).
Though it seems that (unfortunately) for fear of people losing focus on the main character (Myriam), or getting too much branching, Zorlun foresee Myriam as the only female character interacting (sexually, at least) with any male and eventually female character (and animal, alien or creature, if the player activated that ), and if interacting with female, only one on one and only without any male involvement whatsoever.

To stay in the example of Stella (but could apply also to other characters) Stella is evidently jealous of William (or better, of Myriam), so there could be some potential there without even need for (sexual) interaction with Myriam, or for some extra interaction.
It is true that young ladies (and even some not that young) do not need to actually want the man, to be jealous of him giving (or even just seeming to give) attention to another woman (nope, not a theory, practical experience :-D), but if we forget that...

E.g. if Myriam did not do anything with William, helping Stella get him, could actually give her "positive points".
In a more naughty variant , Myriam having done something with William, introducing William and Stella to sex interactions with each other by participating, again as a kind of positive action from herself to help them get together, since she does care about William, and she does show to care about Stella, in the end, she seems close in age to Katherine.
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I think it would not go against the fact the game is centered on Myriam, her choices, and their consequences, because if Myriam has done something with William, and even if she has not but we know William is "hot for her" (or even really in love), she may have at least two aspects (simplifying) to worry/consider about.
Can she be a in serious long term relation with someone her son's age ? And if things with Marc went down the hard nasty way and she is sub to Marc, who is trying to push her down, will she get saved by keeping the interactions with positive characters like William's or the school director, or if she is really in the worst/hardest path with Marc, will she be so pushed down that she will feel unworthy of William and his love and try to steer him towards Stella for his own good (and how would that sacrifice play for her in the end, positively because she made a choice, or negatively because she gets more down) ?

There is a number of characters for which something similar could apply.
E.g. Evelyn at the "swinger club" , Myriam does not need to participate, but if she has the opportunity to see Evelyn doing stuff even just once or twice, and maybe talk with her about it, how would she react ? Would she end up doing stuff herself ? Depending on the player choices about what Myriam does, says and feels, that could allow to modify the stats (as is already happening in the game), and at the same time, would still be coherent with the fact Myriam is the main character, and the fact the game follows the paths of her life depending on the choices and interactions, how she reacts to those interactions and to the events she witnesses and/or experiences.

At the same time, Zorlun has introduced a number of characters, plus some that were not introduced by name but clearly have potential for coming back in "action" (the bullies in the underpass, the guy in the metro, the young ones at the horse riding, the two guys in the metro taking pictures and saying they needed to get again the metro to see if they get her), and at least for the bullies and the young ones at the horse riding, has already indicated something can happen in future .
So, in the end he may have introduced characters he will not use in any interaction, sexual or not, for lack of time to develop the game (to stay in the first example I used, it is possible Stella will never interact again with Myriam in any way, even not sexual).
Honestly, I think it would be a pity , it would feel a bit like a waste after doing all the work to lay down all the characters and the many possibilities of exploring interactions (sexual, but even not sexual, e.g. there was no hint of any sexual possibility with the old man at the stables, and my guess is that there will never be any sexual interaction with him) and the changes in Myriam and other characters.

For Stella, at start, during her first meeting with Myriam, she's kind of jealous of her, because she have some feelings for William and can clearly see the excitement in his eyes when he saw her, but she quickly revised her opinion when she see that Myriam is the real deal. I really wrote her as the typical "tsundere", she's opiniated and willful, but has an hidden tenderness and gentleness once you pass the wall she put in front of others.

After that, all characters won't be used for sexual adventures with Myriam (though most will have a scene or two ^^ ), the game need some characters serving as background, to serve the story, if we want a game with some consistency and not just be a pure "fuck fest", there's a lot of sex already in the game, and yes a lot with porn logic, but you still have a "cement" holding the whole and giving some sense and logic to it.
But of course, in the end, it's just opinion, I can understand if some people see my game as a "fuck fest" compared to others. ^^

i was talking about future updates i already seen all marc stuff

There will be some more Marc in the future yes, but for next few updates, it will be calmer on his side.

 

[clowns234]

For the use of the words "slut" and "whore", the meaning will generally vary depending on who use them, for Anthony and Marc (and other characters of the sort) it's of course used as a demeaning tool to humiliate and broke Myriam's psyche and will. Though with other characters with a more positive and equal exchange with Myriam, it will just be used as "dirty words" to enhance excitement and role play.
In my mind for the use as a non english born user, I saw "slut" as less demeaning than the "whore", as if "slut" was like a first stage, a not fully fallen character, instead of "whore" as the most demeaning and with an image of a fully fallen character that reached the bottom, notably when adding another point to it, like "cheap" or "worthless", etc...
As you said, there is a notion of monetary exchange with the "whore", unlike "slut", putting an even worse connotation to it, because the use of sex as a profession is generally socially frown upon, which "slut", even if frown upon socially, is just for fun, so you're not fully fallen at this stage.

For my generation, at least for me growing up in America in the 60's and 70's, I find 'cunt' to be the most derogatory word one could call a woman. It minimizes her whole worth down to one body part.
BTW, there was no confusion on my part of your use of 'slut' and 'whore'. I took them as you intended.

 

[ouch2020]

You have to see Marc as the young man exploring some dark desires, reaching the age were sex is this massive fantasy dreamed and imagined as a teenager. And his sexuality and curiosity inspired by a father that mix sex and domination as a weapon against his partner, and amplified by the easy access to internet porn, Marc created himself a very dark and twisted picture of what sex is.
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Yep, got that, though I would also say, I would expect, and it seems, he "develops" fast to more extremes than his father (though, in the end, Anthony has not yet shown his worst, I suspect, if you did not kick him out), which would not be strange.
Anthony had other possibilities, Marc has one model, and in the "nasty path" (allow me to call it that way), in either the lighter "dream" or the heavier "dom" side, is pushing the envelope and getting rewards, so it is kind of normal he will go further. And in absence of other factors or if the other factors are not strong enough, that may push Myriam further and further (which means, you have lots of leeway in making the player take decisions, creating the "other factors" and deciding their strength, and consequently, make things go in a number of possible ways ;-), more "positive" or not).

For the use of the words "slut" and "whore", the meaning will generally vary depending on who use them, for Anthony and
[...]
Of course, this is just some semantic, all this isn't to be taken as facts or opinions, this is just the idea behind the use of the two words.

Well, honestly, I mentioned it because I can be a stickler about language (though I can also be very relaxed about it), but that's me . I understand the intention is just for Marc to be demeaning, in his perverted approach, and then it can also fit that he uses almost any kind of random potentially demeaning sexual reference he can come up with .

After that, all characters won't be used for sexual adventures with Myriam (though most will have a scene or two ^^ ), the game need some characters serving as background, to serve the story, if we want a game with some consistency and not just be a pure "fuck fest", there's a lot of sex already in the game, and yes a lot with porn logic, but you still have a "cement" holding the whole and giving some sense and logic to it.

Oh, I do not see your game as a pure "fuck fest".
There is a kind of "fuck fest" element , and I hope it keeps the pace in that sense, given all the potential situations and characters for that.
But it is not just a sequence of sex scenes and renders - if it was a pure "fuck fest", just a sequence of sex scenes with barely any reason/excuse for them, it would not be so captivating.
There is a story, character development (mostly Myriam, but I hope you also continue to develop and give some depth to some others as well), in which the sex scenes integrates, fits, and supports the character and story development.

I used the example of Stella, because there I saw a possibility for Myriam of a different role, kind of more advisor and letting herself back on a more positive outlook to relations and even sex, and of a kind of more romantic approach - if anything happens between Stella and William, would seem "logical" it is in a more romantic0 and tender way (even any sex scene), rather than the kind of raunchy stuff at the museum, with Anthony, with Marc.
A kind of moment shining a bright light and rest moment even for Myriam, especially if the player choices make her end up in the "raunchy fuck fest" mode (actually, I am pretty sure if one does certain choices, the sexual content becomes cut to half or even less, than what is otherwise).

For a character like the Director, there seem to be more ambiguity, could become a positive partner, or just a positive influence (but even a positive partner, would seem more of a long term build up of the relation, even with a psychological link to her old teacher, not the kind of "jump to sex" stuff).

For the old guy at the stables, honestly as I already mentioned, I would expect zero sexual content - though some interaction with him as advisor/nice person would not be strange. And even for someone like the gym professor, despite his introduction and the possibility for Myriam to fantasize about him, honestly, I would not see him as sexual partner, just a corollary character.

So, it is indeed logic that not all characters become (potential) sexual partners, if you want to keep the story from becoming purely a sequence of sex scenes - just hoping that to avoid the extreme "Myriam does everybody" we don't end up with the extreme "Myriam does only one" (well, unless of course that is the result of choices like e.g. staying with Anthony, blocking always Marc, and never taking any other possibility), and that to avoid the risk of people seeing "n" protagonists we end up with a situation in which it seems Myriam is the only woman existing in the World (but I am not thinking about any kind of "harem").

 

[ouch2020]

For my generation, at least for me growing up in America in the 60's and 70's, I find 'cunt' to be the most derogatory word one could call a woman. It minimizes her whole worth down to one body part.
BTW, there was no confusion on my part of your use of 'slut' and 'whore'. I took them as you intended.

Good point, actually, same term could be used in UK. Though honestly, I was not pretending to make an inventory of all kind of sexual references that could be used even in a derogatory way (or are purely derogatory, at least if used outside a "erotic game" context), I was just trying to be a stickler :-D about whore and slut

 

[Zorlun]

For my generation, at least for me growing up in America in the 60's and 70's, I find 'cunt' to be the most derogatory word one could call a woman. It minimizes her whole worth down to one body part.
BTW, there was no confusion on my part of your use of 'slut' and 'whore'. I took them as you intended.

It's funny, I know that this word is apparently one of the worse for a lot of women via movies or series I saw, where it always seem to be the worse of the worse. But I never understood why, it's just as bad as calling a man a "dick", here also you reduce the person as a piece of meat to show he's just an asshole (another body part ^^ ), I always understood "cunt" as the same, you call that a woman that pisses you off and call her a "cunt" as you would call a man a "dick" (though yes, I know they do not have the same exacte connotation, but they feel the same to me as an exterior eye and not an english natif).

But in anyway, even if I know that "cunt" is felt and seen as very derogatory, you don't have the "sexual" overtone of "slut" and "whore", even if the term is literally coming from the genitals. It's just a curse word as any other to verbally assault someone, but it's definitely one that Anthony could use with Myriam, as him being the "prick", "dick" and "asshole" he is. ^^

For the old guy at the stables, honestly as I already mentioned, I would expect zero sexual content - though some interaction with him as advisor/nice person would not be strange. And even for someone like the gym professor, despite his introduction and the possibility for Myriam to fantasize about him, honestly, I would not see him as sexual partner, just a corollary character.

Well in fact I have something in mind with him that I explained in a development post on Patreon and SubscribeStar, where I reveal that I wanted him to be used in one of the exploration of Myriam around exhibitionism, or more precisely about naturism, which the old man is and would serve as a mentor to her on this way of life.

 

[clowns234]

It's funny, I know that this word is apparently one of the worse for a lot of women via movies or series I saw, where it always seem to be the worse of the worse. But I never understood why, it's just as bad as calling a man a "dick", here also you reduce the person as a piece of meat to show he's just an asshole (another body part ^^ ), I always understood "cunt" as the same, you call that a woman that pisses you off and call her a "cunt" as you would call a man a "dick" (though yes, I know they do not have the same exacte connotation, but they feel the same to me as an exterior eye and not an english natif).

But in anyway, even if I know that "cunt" is felt and seen as very derogatory, you don't have the "sexual" overtone of "slut" and "whore", even if the term is literally coming from the genitals. It's just a curse word as any other to verbally assault someone, but it's definitely one that Anthony could use with Myriam, as him being the "prick", "dick" and "asshole" he is. ^^

My point was simply that words change over time and by region, especially slang.

 

[Zorlun]

My point was simply that words change over time and by region, especially slang.

Yes, I know, just thinking out loud as I read comments, I'm always interested in etymology and how a language is used, notably here with english as I use it for the game, first simple intellectual curiosity, but also to make the dialogues better (I thank again Kyla Angel my editor for always giving me some hindsight to get better on the writing part).

I'm always happy to receive knowledge that can help me better the game (and just my use of english too ^^ ).

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Always happy to see a constructive exchange about a game, whether it's the story, ways of thinking, or even the words used.
And always happy to learn more subtilities about a langage

 

[fortuna95]

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Preview Scene - Chapter 2 - Anthony's Dinner

The alternative scene to the one with Lucy, the dinner night with Anthony and his colleagues, where he asked her to serve them in skimpy dress all night. This scene is like the start of the fall for Myriam, and how far she can get into subservience if she decided to trust Anthony and keep him home. Becoming a first to a road that could bring her to doom if she persist.

If Myriam did not have some naughty time with the group of students during the gala night, Myriam will have her first naughty group scene during the dinner, Anthony sharing her to them as the night get more boosy, going on for an intense session of a few hours.

If Myriam did have some naughty revenge with Clark at the office, he'll also have some more naughty scheming to exploit Myriam trustful and naive side.

 

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Preview Scene - Chapter 2 - Anthony's Dinner

The alternative scene to the one with Lucy, the dinner night with Anthony and his colleagues, where he asked her to serve them in skimpy dress all night. This scene is like the start of the fall for Myriam, and how far she can get into subservience if she decided to trust Anthony and keep him home. Becoming a first to a road that could bring her to doom if she persist.

If Myriam did not have some naughty time with the group of students during the gala night, Myriam will have her first naughty group scene during the dinner, Anthony sharing her to them as the night get more boosy, going on for an intense session of a few hours.

If Myriam did have some naughty revenge with Clark at the office, he'll also have some more naughty scheming to exploit Myriam trustful and naive side.

Holy shit 5 guy gangbang or maybe she can do them all but Anthony right in front of him. Another double anal scene maybe? Poor Myriam all her holes are gonna get stretched out again

 

[giancarlo2]

billiard balls ??

 

[ouch2020]

It's funny, I know that this word is apparently one of the worse for a lot of women via movies or series I saw, where it always seem to be the worse of the worse. But I never understood why, it's just as bad as calling a man a "dick", here also you reduce the person as a piece of meat to show he's just an asshole (another body part ^^ ), I always understood "cunt" as the same, you call that a woman that pisses you off and call her a "cunt" as you would call a man a "dick" (though yes, I know they do not have the same exacte connotation, but they feel the same to me as an exterior eye and not an english natif).

Actually, if I may, I understand why you may compare the two words (vulgar term to refer to anatomy element linked also to sexual activity, penis and vagina), however, they are far from having the same value.
As you understood yourself, saying "don't be a dick(head)", "stop thinking with your dick" can be used between friends without being taken as a mortal offence or demeaning - it is a reference to the idea of man thinking often with something that is not their brain ;-), but it is not really making them as if they were only that anatomic part.
At least as far know, calling "cunt" a woman would never be taken in such a light way. That is because more often than not, as was already mentioned, and as you understood yourself, it actually meant to indicate that the woman in question is only, to be even more brutal a "hole" to use for sexual purposes.

Well in fact I have something in mind with him that I explained in a development post on Patreon and SubscribeStar, where I reveal that I wanted him to be used in one of the exploration of Myriam around exhibitionism, or more precisely about naturism, which the old man is and would serve as a mentor to her on this way of life.

Oh, I missed that post, sorry.
Naturism, eh ? Well, she could go for a naked ride, maybe getting naked after she leaves the stables (Godiva Myriam , though actually, if I remember well, it is far from historically confirmed the legend, and it is also not clear if Lady Godiva was really beautiful).
That could also give a way to link back to the kids-but-they-are-sexually-developed (to avoid discussions ;-)) at the small river lake and somehow do an "encore" on that (swimming, possibility to show off), and on Hammer (if the player activated that switch, and decides to do it).
Or could just be a naked ride first, and then, in a second instance, maybe after other events have had a potential impact on her stats, could give the possibility for a second similar ride, where she could get both possibilities (and maybe a small step forward, for the young ones ?).
That way, you would not have only sex scenes, but still keep open the possibility of adding stuff, and even link something you already mentioned (the naturist, the "young ones from the lake", Hammer) in a coherent way (if she goes for naturist attempts, it would be normal that the first time she tries it in a kind of "safe environment", like that lake).
Of course, it would depend on the choices, but that was the case even the previous time: she could decide not to swim, and then, there would be no pool scene; she could decide not to do anything with Hammer, and not to taste, so it was all a matter of choices.
Yes, I know you have already in mind what to do, but speculating is part of the fun , in the end, the whole game is about fantasies , we are not doing that stuff (or better, making do Myriam do stuff) in reality.

Seen the message on Patreon (and then realised it had already been shared even here on F95), so, she can be getting more "sub" in future if she does not get out of it, eh ?
Well, I know you said that you are going to put Marc on the back burner for some update, if I remember well the chronology, if she accepted to have the drink with the policemen, she is supposed to have it soon, and she is also already promised to have the drink/date with Lucy, independently from whether she has the dinner with Anthony.
But if she goes more on the "sub" with Anthony, it seems kind of logic that Marc would also take advantage of that disposition in future, if she does not counteract, in the end, you said yourself Marc is following Anthony's example, though with his own "flavour" .