He used to be her son, and Katherine his sister. Zorlun was forced to change it, as well as nix plans for lesbian incest.
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It's been happening for a long time, if you download the correct version.
If you're playing the right version of the game, then he's her son.
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Just F@%king with ya. Zorlun (or am I) 
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I mean the game has beastiality, I don't see why incest would be such a big problem.
It doesn't have beastiality on Patreon. Hence the Prometheus "Patch".
Whilst the Prometheus "Patch" adds the bestiality back in, it doesn't add incest.
Zorlun's explained it before (probably will again too) but for the time being incest's off the table.
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He is the dev so he knows what's the best for his game but between beastiality and incest I think the first one is way worse. Since he is already going the patch thing, I don't get why adding incest would be an issue. But like I said it's his game and if he, at least for now, doesn't want to add it, we can't really do anything about it. The game is still fun.
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It's because the beast scenes can easily be removed, but adding/removing incest requires extensive rewrites. If it were my game I would have done it (or probably just taken the game off of patreon and done substar only), but it's not my game and not my decision. Besides, the lack of incest isn't a huge deal in this game, Zorlun did a good job of rewriting it to make sense instead of Myriam being his landlady or something.
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Yeah I don't think it's a huge deal either. But for someone like who is doing a mostly lesbian playthrough it kind of removes a couple of options.
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Eh, even if incest were allowed Zorlun still wouldn't add a Myriam/Katherine route, no matter how many times that drum gets beaten. We might get a Myriam/Julia/Katherine scene, though. (And definitely a Myriam/William/Katherine one, but if you're on a mostly-les playthrough you probably won't see that one.)Yeah I don't think it's a huge deal either. But for someone like who is doing a mostly lesbian playthrough it kind of removes a couple of options.
Be better to add a Katherine game rather than yet another sci-fi/fantasy/monster girl/other that sucks in Adult VN games...
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Download the version from SubscribeStar (It's also posted in the OP of this thread, if the version in the thread title says "+p".), then add the incest patch (This can also be found in the OP of this thread.).
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No need for the incest patch as of yet. It hasn't been updated yet to v3.10.
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How to get access to both road? Don't have preference on any of these two rutting jerks, Mike might be better, but don't want to miss those scenes. I altered from Danny to Mike by using console. Any prerequisites for both route? Just don't want to go over again.
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It's not possible to get both right now, the threesome date isn't implemented. If you try to use console commands to set the variables to get both solo dates on the same playthrough it'll give you Danny's date. My recommendation if you just wanna see both and don't care about having a useful save file afterwards is to use jump commands. (ch3_27_date_with_mike and ch3_27_date_with_danny are the relevant labels). When I did this it complained that some variables were undefined, just rollback and set them to True as they pop up. Also note you need 20 Trust or more (MCtrait['Trust']) for Danny's date to go anywhere.
The date night depend on your choices, with four roads possible, date with Danny alone, Mike alone, both or them or staying home. This update only the two solo scenes are up, the two others will be on the next one.
For solo Mike, you need to Myriam get mad at Danny during the first cop date scene and leave early, then let Mike give you a ride home (inviting him in is optional, but will have some minor flavor differences).
For solo Danny, you need Myriam to get totally hammered during the first cop date scene and stay the night with Danny.
If you're not on one of this two roads, the update will stop until the next one with either a new date with both or Myriam staying home with other adventures.
Aha, so, the quiet night at home may not be such a quiet night in the end...
;-)Ehm, this is kind of the wrong forum for a general question, but that said...
The formal answer, is that if you use DAZ Models or even almost any other "asset" in a game, you are supposed to buy the specific license, which can be (and most of the times is) more expensive than the assets itself, and very rapidly add up to a big cost.
It seems also obvious that the idea is that people (read, companies) eventually doing big commercial games or something like that, are supposed to be able to afford doing it, and that rather than rely on the mechanism for paying copyright holders that exist in various countries (the ones that apply also to music), DAZ, but also Renderosity, probably also because they are based in USA, foresee a separate fee paid directly to and through them.
Not buying that license and using the characters in a game, will technically make you liable for being asked to pay after, and maybe more.
The short, less formally correct, answer...
I think you can bet money that most people making games of the type you find on F95, sponsored through Patreon or Subscribestar, and even at least some on Steam, have not paid the extra license for that type of use, and I never heard of DAZ going to do a systematic "search and destroy"
mission to find everybody on Patreon, Subscribestar, F95, etc. who may be using their models without paying that specific license (and they would need to be able to prove it).There are some authors of specific assets who occasionally do DMCA requests (in USA, it is valid) to take down assets being shared on some fora (with some funny/a bit hypocritical cases), but never heard any of them going to do the kind of "search and destroy" thing I was mentioning either.
It would just cost too much, due to the whole complexity of the thing, for the money they would make, to go hunting for every single game author.
In practice, it is probable that you would be more at risk that Patreon (if you plan to try getting sponsored through it) decides to do morality police and threatens to kill your page, like it happened to Zorlun.
Note to the public, since I got some stuff to do, I cannot guarantee the incest patch will be out today or in the next couple of days, which means, it may come out only next Friday or Saturday.
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I would like to provide a little more clarification on this issue, since it gets into one of my fields of interest, which is intellectual property rights and copyright laws.
But first a disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and I don't provide legal advice. When I talk about the law, I am giving my best understanding of what I have read and/or heard from people who know this stuff better than I do, and I won't accept any liability for the information I provide. /disclaimer.
The interactive licenses are actually only needed when you are using the 3D assets themselves in the game in a way which allows the player to interact with them directly, hence the name "interactive license." As long as you are using the Daz assets to create 2D images, and the players of your game are not interacting with the 3D assets, you do not need an interactive license.
Even though the Daz rendered images in these games look 3D, and we call it 3D art, the fact is that it's still a 2D image. Take Project Myriam, for example. The player can't take control of the camera, rotate it, and look at the image from a different angle. The image doesn't actually exist in a different angle. It only exists in a 2D form. So, if you're making a Ren'Py game with Daz render art, you will probably never need an interactive license.
It would be the same for an RPGM game in which you used Daz to render out still images for character sprites or environments. Even if you have animated character sprites, as RPGM games typically do, you would normally animate the sprites by splicing together a number of still 2D images. And if you had cutscenes which used Daz renders, either still images or animations, they would still be 2D images and animations, despite looking 3D, because the player could not control the camera and view the image from different angles or different levels of zoom.
To give you an example of when you would need an interactive license from Daz, let's say that you are making your adult game in the Unreal engine, and you're using a Daz environment, such as one of those completely furnished houses which are available in the Daz store, as your game environment. And you use a Daz character, wearing Daz clothing assets, as the player character in the game. The player is now controlling a 3D Daz asset, walking around in another 3D Daz asset, while wearing a 3D Daz asset. For that, you would need separate interactive licenses for each and every asset you used.
Or imagine that you create a game, in whatever engine, which allows the player to modify their outfit. They can load in different clothing items, rotate the camera to show the clothing from different angles, maybe change the outfit colors, and so forth. This is interacting with the actual 3D assets, the clothing, so this would require an interactive license.
But as long as you are just using the Daz assets to create 2D artwork which you put into your game, you don't need an interactive license. You only need the license which comes with every asset you buy in the Daz store, or the Renderosity store, or the Renderotica store. Basically, if you bought the asset, and didn't pirate it, you also received a limited license to use the asset in creating artwork, and you don't need any other licenses to use your artwork. You would just need additional licenses to use the 3D assets in other ways.