VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.09+p] [Zorlun]

[TheLecher]

If Zolrun included incest again, and that was what had triggered the person's reaction, the person could go to Patreon, show them what they downloaded, and Patreon could kick Zorlun out, period.

That is the difference with me, the only three things for sure in common between me and Zorlun are that we are both male, we both can speak French, and we both have an account on F95 - so, even if the persons sees the incest patch and tries to point it out to Patreon, if they are a minimum coherent with their own rules, they cannot ban Zorlun for that.

There are two things wrong with this line of reasoning.

First, if a person showing Patreon a copy of the game with incest in it would trigger action from Patreon, even if that copy of the game had been posted on SubscribeStar, instead of Patreon, what do you think they would do if someone showed them a copy of the game with bestiality in it? If Patreon is going to take action against Zorlun for something which is posted on SubscribeStar, they already have all the cause to act that they would ever require, incest or no incest.

Second, why would someone who wanted to cause trouble for Zorlun direct Patreon here to F95? Why wouldn't they just add your incest patch to the game, and then send that to Patreon? If you're correct in your assumption that Patreon would act against Zorlun on the basis of an unverified copy of the game provided to them by a player, then consider the fact that, once your patch has been added to the game, that copy of the game has incest, and Patreon wouldn't have any way of knowing that it was the work of a third party. You patch does not include a disclaimer, stating that the incest content was not made by Zorlun, and the patch changes the scripts. If Patreon ever got their hands on a patched copy of the game, they'd have no way to know that it wasn't 100% Zorlun's work.

In the end, there are only two things Zorlun can do, with regard to his Patreon account. He can either eliminate the Prometheus version of the game, even on SubscribeStar, and only release the Patreon version, or he can go on doing whatever he wants in the Prometheus version, and keep his fingers crossed that Patreon won't check the version on SubscribeStar, because the version that already exists on SubscribeStar would get him banned on Patreon just as quickly as the ipatch would.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Second, why would someone who wanted to cause trouble for Zorlun direct Patreon here to F95? Why wouldn't they just add your incest patch to the game, and then send that to Patreon? If you're correct in your assumption that Patreon would act against Zorlun on the basis of an unverified copy of the game provided to them by a player, then consider the fact that, once your patch has been added to the game, that copy of the game has incest, and Patreon wouldn't have any way of knowing that it was the work of a third party. You patch does not include a disclaimer, stating that the incest content was not made by Zorlun, and the patch changes the scripts. If Patreon ever got their hands on a patched copy of the game, they'd have no way to know that it wasn't 100% Zorlun's work.

It's a high probability that Patreon knows about F95 already. It's not exactly some anonymous site that requires actual effort to find.
Hell, just do a search for F95zone and look at the results you get. These forums are publicly known enough that only the most closeted shut-in retard would think Patreon doesn't know about this site.

In the event that they somehow don't, Zorlun would be forced into the position of telling Patreon that it's not his work, that it's been done by a third-party and direct them here along with the username of the individual making it - ouch2020, who they cannot force into stopping making the modified file since they don't own the project, and neither can Zorlun since the only viable recourse would require paying legal fees, leaving only two options for Patreon.

1 - Do nothing, since Zorlun is complying with what they requested of him already.

2 - Be monumentally petty and threaten to close down the Patreon account over something they, Zorlun, or even Tom Rothamel has any control over.

 

[Zorlun]

Please... WHY??? Why insisting on fighting over this, it's beyond me.

The debate is pointless, Patreon will not change its politics and I will not change the way I work the game, the setting has been durably and too deeply changed now, there is no way back, and that's that.

(I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I know you all love the game and Myriam, but it's really getting to me to see people resuscitate this problem that nearly killed the game again and again, and to keep fighting over it, nothing will come from that debate, even if one get to come out as the best debater, what's next? Patreon will still be the same and I will still work the game the same way... Please, drop the subject.)

 

[Skjall]

Please... WHY???

Because it's not the Chinese or Indians that are the most populous nations.
It's the Alabamians.
Fortunately they're not the Jews/masons/reptilians* so they don't secretly run the world yet and can only moan on f95
*or any other tinfoil theory.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Please... WHY??? Why insisting on fighting over this, it's beyond me.

The debate is pointless, Patreon will not change its politics and I will not change the way I work the game, the setting has been durably and too deeply changed now, there is no way back, and that's that.

(I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I know you all love the game and Myriam, but it's really getting to me to see people resuscitate this problem that nearly killed the game again and again, and to keep fighting over it, nothing will come from that debate, even if one get to come out as the best debater, what's next? Patreon will still be the same and I will still work the game the same way... Please, drop the subject.)

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. Sadly some people don't understand that it is sometimes wiser to keep their own counsel as opposed to broadcasting their thoughts and opinions for any number of nameless strangers to read and respond to, and not necessarily by keeping the discourse here as opposed to going to some other website with a view to causing trouble.

 

[xapican]

Please... WHY???

Because sitting at home warm and comftable is much better than ....

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[WerewolfSinX]

I cannot wait for more Lucy content (Main Route for me) and than the way that last scene ended for me, Like mother like daughter. Never thought I would play any type of visual novel where that would happen good job Zorlun for making a very good female protagonist story.

 

[ouch2020]

It's a high probability that Patreon knows about F95 already. It's not exactly some anonymous site that requires actual effort to find.
Hell, just do a search for F95zone and look at the results you get. These forums are publicly known enough that only the most closeted shut-in retard would think Patreon doesn't know about this site.

In the event that they somehow don't, Zorlun would be forced into the position of telling Patreon that it's not his work, that it's been done by a third-party and direct them here along with the username of the individual making it - ouch2020, who they cannot force into stopping making the modified file since they don't own the project, and neither can Zorlun since the only viable recourse would require paying legal fees, leaving only two options for Patreon.

1 - Do nothing, since Zorlun is complying with what they requested of him already.

2 - Be monumentally petty and threaten to close down the Patreon account over something they, Zorlun, or even Tom Rothamel has any control over.

Addition to your reply, for TheLecher .
Prometheus and I do not use Zorlun's identity, so, even if the person reported to Patreon either file, they would only see that Prometheus made a patch with content they don't like, and that ouch2020 has made a patch with content they don't like.

Zorlun releases the source code to his game with the game (and in general, it possible to recover it even from rpa files), so, as you (Snugglepuff) indicated, there is nothing Zorlun can legally do to stop us - till now at least, I do not even remember an indication of "copyright" on his game, plus, I am releasing the patch for free (I don't have any Patreon, Subscribestar, buymeacoffe, etc. account as creator), so it cannot be claimed that I am making money out of his work.
And I am not even distributing a modified version of Zorlun game, or even the base game plus my patch, I am only diffusing the incest patch, period, all the while recognising that Zorlun is the author of the original game.
And I am not based in USA (nor is Zorlun), good luck with all of the above.

The part about closing his account even if he was distributing his own incest or othe stuff addition to the game (but I don't remember anymore if it was only the incest, or also the bestiality, that triggered Patreon), was a threat made by Patreon to Zorlun and that Zorlun referred to us.

Can Patron tomorrow morning decide in their wisdom to close down Zolrun's account without giving a reason ? Maybe yes, maybe not, I admit I have not checked recently their conditions.
If they are actually supposed to provide a reason, there you go - if Prometheus is doing bestiality, I do the incest patch, and the things was that Zorlun was not allowed to create and distribute his own incest/bestiality part of the game, even if done through other sites, well, Patreon cannot provide a good reason, because Zorlun is not creating and distributing his own incest and/or bestiality content.

Though honestly, it seems to me that we are ending up again debating for the nth time why according to some people Zorlun should just go ahead and disregard what Patreon told him (with variants from "crusade against Patreon" to "anyway, if it had to happen, would have happened already", etc.).

Forgetting that maybe nothing will happen, but if it happens, it is Zorlun that will primarily feel the (financial) heat, not us.

So, let's just stop debating about the sex of angels, respect his choice, and just enjoy the game and enjoy Myriam (yep, I mean it in the naughty way ;-D)

 

[Snugglepuff]

so, as you (Snugglepuss) indicated

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[kurosx]

Wishful thinking.

 

[PBS666]

...

Ouch indeed

 

[ouch2020]

...

And now the question is, was it a typo, because I typed rapidly without looking at the keyboard as I often do while doing something else, and did not proofread before posting, so instead of the "f" key, I pressed the "s" (on my keyboard, two keys of distance, basically nothing) ?

Or was it a subconscious lapse, because I was thinking and writing about Myriam, where puss( y ), seems more adequate as description than puff, and so my brain in the higher placed ignored the mistake, because I was temporarily thinking with the lower-placed brain ?

I think I will go for the second explanation

 

[Zorlun]

Early access of update ch4.05 for Project Myriam - Life & Explorations is out on Patreon and SubscribeStar for higher tiers patrons!
Public access will be up on July 6th! So patience my dear pervert friends, Myriam will soon be with you!

What's coming:

- 3350+ lines of new code and 247 new renders.
- 2 scenes.
- 18 new choices to make Myriam more your own and write her story.
- Some more naughty content (3 subscenes).
- Multiple spellchecking fixes.
- 1 subscene commission.

NOTE: Please, do not leak the early release before the official public version on July 6th, it always causes more chaos than anything. Thank you all for your consideration.

 

[ouch2020]

NOTE: Please, do not leak the early release before the official public version on July 6th, it always causes more chaos than anything. Thank you all for your consideration.

I am sure the leaking is like the discussion that just closed, or some other recurring ones, disappears for a bit, but you can be sure "It will be back" :-D

 

[Blurpee69]

I am sure the leaking is like the discussion that just closed, or some other recurring ones, disappears for a bit, but you can be sure "It will be back" :-D

Zorlun has been adding that line for quite some time now. It's been a largely respected request as far as I can tell, last month was an exception.

 

[WerewolfSinX]

Hopefully we see Lucy or Nubia in this update. I'm ready for Myriam to finally tell one of them that she loves them (Mainly Lucy) haha.

 

[ouch2020]

Zorlun has been adding that line for quite some time now. It's been a largely respected request as far as I can tell, last month was an exception.

Actually, I am 100% sure about another episode, and I seem to remember at least a third one.
Don't forget the number you see is 4.05 (in this latest version), but in reality is close to, or around, two years the game goes on, and with an update every month (with one exception for the graphic card problem).

 

[ouch2020]

Hopefully we see Lucy or Nubia in this update. I'm ready for Myriam to finally tell one of them that she loves them (Mainly Lucy) haha.

Nope. But it is not a surprise, aside the latest preview, already before Zorlun had suggested this was going to be about flint and the volunteer activity, though in the end had to cut out the volunteer, albeit putting something that if one does also the volunteer thing, means could get double fun

 

[Red Re]

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Early access of update ch4.05 for Project Myriam - Life & Explorations is out on Patreon and SubscribeStar for higher tiers patrons!
Public access will be up on July 6th! So patience my dear pervert friends, Myriam will soon be with you!

What's coming:


NOTE: Please, do not leak the early release before the official public version on July 6th, it always causes more chaos than anything. Thank you all for your consideration.

Zorlun..
Why you work so hard for this game?
I don't know, it's kinda strange you know..
Do we even deserve you ?

 

[Snugglepuff]

Do we even deserve you ?

Yes.
Yes we do.

The real question is, what terrible sin(s) did he commit in the past that made him deserve us?!