Viressa
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Yeah that's the only scene so far where you do anything with Eve, sorry.
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Well, I honestly admit I would be in favour, in the optics of her teaching them, or them asking her to teach them, or eventually "asking" (as in, they want it and she does not stop them), since she is already their preferred porno star
:-D - to keep the "Myriam Dom", Myriam lustful, and Myriam submissive approaches possible paths, of course always also with the possibity for her to avoid altogether or cut short by allowing something but then cutting (or not), a bit like in the dates with the cops.I am even evil enough that if she had some "active time"
with them and before, after, or while, also with Hummer, or someone else, I would not get shocked (at least, depending on the exact situation). But you should know Zorlun had already excluded explicitly that possibilty, exactly due to the use of the word "kids" - if he did not change his mind, my understanding was that he was not comfortable with depicting them going further than what they did till now.
He mentioned he might allow one more scene, but that would probably be in the same direction, not direct active sex (and yes, even oral sex counts as sex
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DIRTY FILTHY Animal
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Cant you use a disclaimer like other games do and say “every character in this game is legal age of 18”Well, I honestly admit I would be in favour, in the optics of her teaching them, or them asking her to teach them, or eventually "asking" (as in, they want it and she does not stop them), since she is already their preferred porno star
I am even evil enough that if she had some "active time"
But you should know Zorlun had already excluded explicitly that possibilty, exactly due to the use of the word "kids" - if he did not change his mind, my understanding was that he was not comfortable with depicting them going further than what they did till now.
He mentioned he might allow one more scene, but that would probably be in the same direction, not direct active sex (and yes, even oral sex counts as sex
Just don’t call them kid, call them young adults or students or punks or misfits
Some people (my dad) have called people like 18-24 "kids" - for decades.
xapican
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guess that is not so easy, since they were clearly underaged, judging by their aperance (view) and that is a damed slippery ground.
Edit: there are aswell cultural barriers here, don't forget that Zorlum is french, and i guess they use the term kids not so wide like in the US or in My country, more llke the germans where "Kinder" means Kids and It is used only to adress Underage persons ( in the comon use, there may be exetions when talking to close friends or relatives )
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Viressa
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Honestly the older I get the more I agree with the idea that everyone under 40 is a kid.
ch3.11 had the two other roads for the date night and a bonus subway scene for those that quit the dates early.
Not a big fan of the "landladies" and "everyone is 18+" bullshits, it kinds of break immersion and it's kind of taking my players for shump (in my eyes).
Nothing to do with being French, but I must say, even if it's fantasy and that there is already a lot of taboo and borderline content in the game that I have no problem assuming as just that, fantasies in a game, I must say that I prefer not fooling around with characters too young (no judgement here, it's just me choosing to limit the scope of my fantasies in the game).
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Well, here's the thing, as has already been mentioned, things which are absolutely prohibited by Patreon are already included in the game, but they're in the Prometheus patch. And, of course, the Prometheus patch is not made by Zorlun. *wink, wink*But you should know Zorlun had already excluded explicitly that possibilty, exactly due to the use of the word "kids" - if he did not change his mind, my understanding was that he was not comfortable with depicting them going further than what they did till now.
He mentioned he might allow one more scene, but that would probably be in the same direction, not direct active sex (and yes, even oral sex counts as sex
If bestiality can be included in the Prometheus patch, then so could the content with the boys by the river. But that's still up to the person who makes the patch. Maybe that person is okay with bestiality, but not okay with the kids. I'm not sure why one would be okay and the other not, but different people have different limits.
While I'm usually not a fan of shota content, there are some contexts in which I think it can be hot, and the scenario of the kids creeping on Myriam while she's alone by the river checks the right boxes for me. So I would like to see that path progress further. But it seems that probably won't happen.
That won't cut it for Patreon, and it's unnecessary for SubscribeStar, so a disclaimer seems like a waste of time to me.
On SubscribeStar, if they can tell that no actual minors were involved in the production, and provided that no explicit loli or shota content appears on their website, they tend to not care what's in the content which the creator hosts on other sites and links in their posts. So a disclaimer is not needed for SubscribeStar.
On Patreon, you could add a hundred disclaimers, and if they decide, in their own judgement, that one of the characters looks a little young, then they'll shut your entire account down and seize any money which they hadn't yet paid out to you.
Take DecentMonkey, for example. He's the developer of Fashion Business. In that game, he used to have a character named Bardie, who was little bit young looking. He didn't look like a little boy. He was obviously a teenager, and it was written into the game that he was eighteen years old. He was supposed to be a high school graduate who was just starting college. That was part of the plotline for his character, and there was never any suggestion in the game that he was underage. And he could easily have been eighteen or older. I've known plenty of young adults who looked younger than their actual age. But because he looked like he could have been sixteen, instead of eighteen, Patreon shut down DecentMonkey's account, until he completely removed the character from the game. They didnt' care what age the game said he was, and disclaimers made no difference to them.
Adding up to what other said, without wanting to go back to one of the various discussions (though the most repeated one was the one about why evil Zorlun had taken away incest and bestiality
), even more since Zorlun already repeated roughly what he had already said...Those young people are clearly adolescents (though early adolescent, one might argue) in puberty, capable of sexual activity and to get children, thus, by F95 rules are OK.
But physical capability for full sexual activity (I mean, being able to impregnate or get pregnant) starts well before the age of full legal rights (which typically is 18, 21, or if one uses a certain political references, 25), and it would be hard to argue that those young ones are above 18.
So, yes, physically they can have sexual activity, but nobody would consider them legal adults, though notice the age of consent in most countries is 14-16 and some even below (although in some country, or State in USA, above), thus below full legal adulthood.
The ones who harassed the homeless, are a different matter, those could be considered as being 18 without problems.
I don't know if the term shota applies, in general I associate that term with someone who clearly seems not yet to have developed sexual puberty traits, which for me would make them at least uncomfortable, and probably off, even in a game (well, as sexual element).
But I leave that to others who are more aware of the precise definition of those terms, I admit my ignorance.
xapican
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Totally agree, I'am not a fan of loli, and underage content, without judging or opening a witch hunt on those which have these kinks
Guys I downloaded the game but i see this message, I donwloaded past versions too as well as from multiple souces (mega mixdrop etc) but the message is the same. Can somebody help me please?
bcmans
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Sure thing, no worries. I run everything in VMs. Nothing runs on the host system, but the hypervisor. I guess I am a bit of a control freak in that way.
Viressa
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Strange but, fair enough I suppose. Sadly I don't know enough about how to make GPU passthrough work to help you with that so, good luck!Sure thing, no worries. I run everything in VMs. Nothing runs on the host system, but the hypervisor. I guess I am a bit of a control freak in that way.
bcmans
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If I used the host system that would be a solution, but the host system only runs the hypervisor. Everything I do is in VMs.
I played the game by choosing every willpower or/and domination choses, but i didn't any real femdom scenes. So, therearen't yet any femdom path?
Not as such for now, there is a few scenes, notably with Marc, but keep in mind that Myriam start the game on the submissive side, so changing herself will take time, more femdom to come in the future. (kind of the same thing for the lesbian content, Myriam starting the game with a man, it took her time before thinking about other women)
Uh, someone had the same problem recently, but he/she (I think was a he) was running the software in a VM. In his case, the problem was the virtualisation support for direct access to the GPU, by using a different virtualisation (VMPlayer) he managed to get around the problem.
Are you using virtualisation ? If not, it may be a problem of the graphic card drivers and the graphic card not being recognised properly.