Solomon Grundy

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Again, you're apparently not good at reading.
I can read just fine, thanks. I will sum up:

"You're completely wrong and I'm going to argue about it and claim I am correct, but then call the moral high ground by saying I'm not going to argue about this after I just argued about it."

Yeah, that doesn't work.
 

TheLecher

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Nov 21, 2018
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I can read just fine, thanks. I will sum up:

"You're completely wrong and I'm going to argue about it and claim I am correct, but then call the moral high ground by saying I'm not going to argue about this after I just argued about it."

Yeah, that doesn't work.
Nice job. Now I'll sum up for you.

"This argument ended as soon as it started, and it's been over for hours, but I want to try to be a keyboard warrior and act like the sheriff in this thread, in the hope that I'll get a few "likes" on my post. So I'm going to try to stir things up again, insert myself into the debate, and then beg off."

Yeah, that doesn't work.
 

Snugglepuff

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Apr 27, 2017
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Petty people who have nothing better to do. Like Alfred said in the second Chris Bale - Batman movie: "Some people just want to see the world burn".
The former doesn't go with the latter, which was Alfred pointing out that The Joker was a nihilist.
 

ramvivat

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i have deep question.
In general, who can tell me if we are making Miriam a kind of public whore or am I misunderstanding something?
i need to know for myself - do i love this game or this is not my cup of tea?
because in my opinion one thing is Miriam explore herself through limited public use (=this is training like training of Adrianna in "Restore her Career") and completelly diffferent thing when Miriam is whoring for become public whore (prostitute). what is final goal of this VN? where Miriam will become in the end?

sorry if my question is too deep.
 
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i have deep question.
In general, who can tell me if we are making Miriam a kind of public whore or am I misunderstanding something?
i need to know for myself - do i love this game or this is not my cup of tea?
because in my opinion one thing is Miriam explore herself through limited public use (=this is training like training of Adrianna in "Restore her Career") and completelly diffferent thing when Miriam is whoring for become public whore (prostitute). what is final goal of this VN? where Miriam will become in the end?

sorry if my question is too deep.
Looks like players will decide that and both will be within options along with other options for the end game. :unsure:
 

Snugglepuff

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i have deep question.
In general, who can tell me if we are making Miriam a kind of public whore or am I misunderstanding something?
Sort of...
If you choose to have her do things that make her into a public whore, then that's what she becomes.
There's so much choice and variety available for how each of us chooses to mold Myriam, and with relative freedom in how we do it. Even then, when presented with the choices, any public whoring must still be chosen for it to happen.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Jun 11, 2020
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i have deep question.
In general, who can tell me if we are making Miriam a kind of public whore or am I misunderstanding something?
i need to know for myself - do i love this game or this is not my cup of tea?
because in my opinion one thing is Miriam explore herself through limited public use (=this is training like training of Adrianna in "Restore her Career") and completelly diffferent thing when Miriam is whoring for become public whore (prostitute). what is final goal of this VN? where Miriam will become in the end?

sorry if my question is too deep.
However you want your Myriam to be, she could be a nun or a turbo slut, or somewhere in between. You have the freedom to decide who you want her to bang, everything is optional
 

ramvivat

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However you want your Myriam to be, she could be a nun or a turbo slut, or somewhere in between. You have the freedom to decide who you want her to bang, everything is optional
well - i wish to train Miriam into Marc's personal incest breeding slut - nothing more... for little silent happiness.

for her son, Miriam will be a mega whore,
so that when her son is next to her, she will be such a whore that street whores next to Miriam will seem like nuns.
but when her beloved son is not around, Miriam should be so modest that the nuns next to her will look like whores.
although this is probably just my ideal woman, which probably does not exist.
But can I even dream? =)
 
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peas

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Never want Myriam to be a prostitute. Never big on forced sex. Want her to be slutty because she is a slut. Kinks are different for everyone, but the wanting to try things is at her core. Love a classic love sory, but this is not that. This is the story of a woman who is exited to try all kinds of different sex acts.
 

wildride69

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Jan 5, 2023
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Two people who've been at odds over the same thing in the past say their piece to eachother and that they won't be repeating past actions, just for a third party to come in and an entirely seperate (yet all too familiar in method and detail) shitstorm starts brewing with someone else...

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Yeah I almost started typing a reply to their discussion, then I checked the thread and realized how old and repeated the conversation really was....then I said NOPE!!! :) and "My names Paul this shit is between y'all"
 

ouch2020

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Aug 11, 2020
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If Patreon was going to take action over the Prometheus version of the game, they would have done so already. It's clear that Patreon isn't checking the files Zorlun posts on SubscribeStar.
Well, honestly, I don't think, and even Zorlun said it himself, that it was Patreon directly, more someone that reported to Patreon. So, the trick is what triggered the person to report it to Patreon.
Patreon's decision to ban someone is not subject to an appeal process, and they are not really oblliged to even give a reason.
If Zolrun included incest again, and that was what had triggered the person's reaction, the person could go to Patreon, show them what they downloaded, and Patreon could kick Zorlun out, period.

That is the difference with me, the only three things for sure in common between me and Zorlun are that we are both male, we both can speak French, and we both have an account on F95 - so, even if the persons sees the incest patch and tries to point it out to Patreon, if they are a minimum coherent with their own rules, they cannot ban Zorlun for that.
 

ouch2020

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Aug 11, 2020
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i have deep question.
In general, who can tell me if we are making Miriam a kind of public whore or am I misunderstanding something?
i need to know for myself - do i love this game or this is not my cup of tea?
because in my opinion one thing is Miriam explore herself through limited public use (=this is training like training of Adrianna in "Restore her Career") and completelly diffferent thing when Miriam is whoring for become public whore (prostitute). what is final goal of this VN? where Miriam will become in the end?

sorry if my question is too deep.
I can only reconfirm, from the what was said from Zorlun himself, and from looking at the code, that the only things inevitable are things like Marc peeping on Myriam in the prologue, the sex scene with Anthony at the motel and another one at home, and things like the "clothing malfunction" of the cousin at the start, so, it is up to you.
Can she "do" anything breathing (well, necrophilia is not in the list of tags/kinks, and is not foresseen :)) ? Yes, if you want so.
Can she become a porn actress ? Well, it has been already hinted one of the endings could go in that direction, actually, even before the ending.
Can she only have lesbian sexual activity after the mandatory episodes with Anthony ? Possible, means skipping most content, but possible.
Can she be almost a nun, doing basically no sex aside the mandatory part with Anthony ? Also possible, though then, there would be basically no naughty content.
Etc. etc.
It's one of the stated goals of Zorlun, try to make a game where people can choose different paths, and that will have different possible endings depending on the player choices and preferences.
 

xapican

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May 11, 2020
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To be clear, and this is for the Newer gamers;
you other guys were around so we all know what happend.
Zorluns acount is not Banned,
It was frozen till he removed all Incest and put the game advertised on that site acording to their regulations. It is still active and you can support him there if you like.
he has also an SubscribeStar (SS) acount with another version (let us call it like that here) than the one posted in patreon also without I cest but with other banned content.
You also can support him there if you like.
ouch2020 ; Has nothing to do with Zorlun, and provides for Incest fans the patch free and only on this site.
 

TheLecher

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If Zolrun included incest again, and that was what had triggered the person's reaction, the person could go to Patreon, show them what they downloaded, and Patreon could kick Zorlun out, period.

That is the difference with me, the only three things for sure in common between me and Zorlun are that we are both male, we both can speak French, and we both have an account on F95 - so, even if the persons sees the incest patch and tries to point it out to Patreon, if they are a minimum coherent with their own rules, they cannot ban Zorlun for that.
There are two things wrong with this line of reasoning.

First, if a person showing Patreon a copy of the game with incest in it would trigger action from Patreon, even if that copy of the game had been posted on SubscribeStar, instead of Patreon, what do you think they would do if someone showed them a copy of the game with bestiality in it? If Patreon is going to take action against Zorlun for something which is posted on SubscribeStar, they already have all the cause to act that they would ever require, incest or no incest.

Second, why would someone who wanted to cause trouble for Zorlun direct Patreon here to F95? Why wouldn't they just add your incest patch to the game, and then send that to Patreon? If you're correct in your assumption that Patreon would act against Zorlun on the basis of an unverified copy of the game provided to them by a player, then consider the fact that, once your patch has been added to the game, that copy of the game has incest, and Patreon wouldn't have any way of knowing that it was the work of a third party. You patch does not include a disclaimer, stating that the incest content was not made by Zorlun, and the patch changes the scripts. If Patreon ever got their hands on a patched copy of the game, they'd have no way to know that it wasn't 100% Zorlun's work.

In the end, there are only two things Zorlun can do, with regard to his Patreon account. He can either eliminate the Prometheus version of the game, even on SubscribeStar, and only release the Patreon version, or he can go on doing whatever he wants in the Prometheus version, and keep his fingers crossed that Patreon won't check the version on SubscribeStar, because the version that already exists on SubscribeStar would get him banned on Patreon just as quickly as the ipatch would.
 
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