VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.12+p] [Zorlun]

[Zorlun]

So no path to stay with husband?

Actually, yes. If you are playing with the incest patch/original relations, Anthony is the husband, and there is an ending where apparently she goes on with Anthony - effectively, it was the first ending appearing in the game, but Zorlun did not implement it on popular request (he had asked), rather focusing on continuing the story.
Now that he is going to start working on the endings, he will certainly also implement that one, though it is to be seen when he will do it.
Just keep in mind that ending was supposed to happen relatively early in the game, so if it is implemented as originally hinted, going for that would rather shorten the playtime.

but her asshole hubby is in prison for shooting her in the fuckin face. How the hell is she going to be so submissive that she would forgive him for that and what have conjugal visits at the prison with him, or even worse she doesn’t press charges against him after he tried to murder her?

Because the original "Myrian stays with asshole husband" ending occurred WAY before that. ie if that ending had stayed in the game then that decision and that game ending would have happened back in chapter 2 and you wouldn't have had any chapter 3-4-5 and none of the later choices Myriam made that resulted in him shooting her would have occurred, because on that path she'd have been off living the life of a meek submissive housewife somewhere.

It was not in the original plan, but with Anthony success with some of the fans and supporters, I said I would add a little special ending for Anthony, this is why a specific choice was made on ice at the end of chapter 2, once I've finished with the update I'm on right now, starting the ending chapter, I'll go back to this choice and make this special Anthony ending (I may work a few other scenes leading some point for different endings before that, but anyway, it'll come soon ^^ ).

Isn't that what this game was supposed to be anyway? Isn't Myriam loosely based on Sophia, and this is a kind of parody of 'A Wife and Mother'?

Nope.
Myriam is based (physically) on a real friend and ex of the author, Zorlun. Actually, he even revealed here (so, I don't feel bad in saying it) that she had even bigger breasts than Myriam, one can imagine the physical effect on her back, and effectively Zorlun indicated she had had to have reduction surgery (and yes, I know people are more used to the idea of women getting fake big breast, but reduction surgery does exist).

I think he was more talking about the game itself than the character, but I would say that no, not really, if AWAM was certainly one of the games that inspired me to start my own, Project Myriam was not supposed to be a spoof of it.

Some of the main games that really made me want to make my own, were AWAM, Project Sage and Good Girl Gone Bad, this was for me at the time the trio of games I both enjoyed the most and that frustrated me the most. ^^
That's this mix of the two (enjoyment and frustration) that pushed me to want and try myself at making my own, and why I often invite people frustrated with mine to try themselves at it, if it's hard and some times a pain, it's definitely fun and rewarding (talking mentally more than financially here ^^ ).

 

[TomUK]

Some of the main games that really made me want to make my own, were AWAM, Project Sage and Good Girl Gone Bad, this was for me at the time the trio of games I both enjoyed the most and that frustrated me the most. ^^
That's this mix of the two (enjoyment and frustration) that pushed me to want and try myself at making my own, and why I often invite people frustrated with mine to try themselves at it, if it's hard and some times a pain, it's definitely fun and rewarding (talking mentally more than financially here ^^ ).

Do you still get the time to play them?

 

[Buletti]

When we slowly enter the ending territory there is something I always wondered: will there be anything additional in the ending that take the stats into consideration?

Until now I have taken almost all submissive and saphic decisions possible (I skipped the priest Route and maybe I missed something else). So My has a fairly high stat there without having it on max.

Is there some kind of threashholt of points to gain to maybe get something extra in combination with the endings based on characters?

Maybe the answer would go too much into spoiler territory and maybe I even don't want to know not to ruin the Magic of the choices But maybe you have a clever answer nontheless...

 

[doccop63]

It was not in the original plan, but with Anthony success with some of the fans and supporters, I said I would add a little special ending for Anthony, this is why a specific choice was made on ice at the end of chapter 2, once I've finished with the update I'm on right now, starting the ending chapter, I'll go back to this choice and make this special Anthony ending (I may work a few other scenes leading some point for different endings before that, but anyway, it'll come soon ^^ ).


I think he was more talking about the game itself than the character, but I would say that no, not really, if AWAM was certainly one of the games that inspired me to start my own, Project Myriam was not supposed to be a spoof of it.

Some of the main games that really made me want to make my own, were AWAM, Project Sage and Good Girl Gone Bad, this was for me at the time the trio of games I both enjoyed the most and that frustrated me the most. ^^
That's this mix of the two (enjoyment and frustration) that pushed me to want and try myself at making my own, and why I often invite people frustrated with mine to try themselves at it, if it's hard and some times a pain, it's definitely fun and rewarding (talking mentally more than financially here ^^ ).

I'm surprised that Zara Scarlet would make such a comparison. If you play this game out to Ch3, you can see far & away, the differences in the two. AWAM is said to be a "slow burn" (in Actuality, it's more like trying to start a fire with wet wood). There is some slow burn with a couple of characters (Lucy, Nubia and the detective whose name escapes me) and then there's branches that lead directly into hot sex (the two patrol cops, Guy & his friends from the museum, Charles). Still, there's one branch where there's a naturally growing romance (Cleavon route). PLUS, there's WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY more Actual sex scenes than the blue-balling AWAM will EVER have. I thought Zara was more astute than that.

 

[Zorlun]

Do you still get the time to play them?

No, since I started my own game, I did not touch any other adult game, I wanted to avoid being influenced.

When we slowly enter the ending territory there is something I always wondered: will there be anything additional in the ending that take the stats into consideration?

Until now I have taken almost all submissive and saphic decisions possible (I skipped the priest Route and maybe I missed something else). So My has a fairly high stat there without having it on max.

Is there some kind of threashholt of points to gain to maybe get something extra in combination with the endings based on characters?

Maybe the answer would go too much into spoiler territory and maybe I even don't want to know not to ruin the Magic of the choices But maybe you have a clever answer nontheless...

The possible endings reachable will be a mix of choices made during the game (meaning the flags you have or not); some stats threshold; and some last minute choices made by the player (to let the player explore a few endings he has unlocked without having to restart the game a million times over).

I'm surprised that Zara Scarlet would make such a comparison. If you play this game out to Ch3, you can see far & away, the differences in the two. AWAM is said to be a "slow burn" (in Actuality, it's more like trying to start a fire with wet wood). There is some slow burn with a couple of characters (Lucy, Nubia and the detective whose name escapes me) and then there's branches that lead directly into hot sex (the two patrol cops, Guy & his friends from the museum, Charles). Still, there's one branch where there's a naturally growing romance (Cleavon route). PLUS, there's WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY more Actual sex scenes than the blue-balling AWAM will EVER have. I thought Zara was more astute than that.

There's no need to compare one with the other I think, they are not the same games and in the end, it's always a question of tastes, some will like what's in one and some what's in the other.
I think it's more interesting to have different genre of games out there, it's more things to explore for the players and to play depending on your mood.

It's funny, it brings me to mind one of the thing frustrating me in video games now a days, the huge dark gothic horror esthetic we have in most, if not all, souls like games, ever since Elden Ring had its massive success, every single game of the genre (and even out of it) wants to do the same esthetic of dark gothic horror that gives you monsters that look like HP Lovecraft horrors, they all look the same, weird grotesque horrors with teeth, arms, tentacles, and other crap everywhere... It's sad to see all those games wanting to do the exact same thing.

 

[ouch2020]

Do you still get the time to play them?

Well, I know the question was to Zorlun and not me, but...
Played AWAM once or twice, dropped it, as it sounded to me like milking (though I had not started sponsoring, so, cannot complain) - I like a good story, even in porn games and porn (don't laugh, I still remember an "alice in wonderland", definitively a porn, but with a story, and an actress that was very cute, not "inflated", and who could actually even sing and act, though it was a very old one, 70s), but the story did not impress me especially, and AFAIK it is a slooooooow progress and development (especially if you compare it with the almost monthly release from Zorlun ;-)).
Never played project Sage, but I did play, effectively sponsored, GGGB - it has been quite a long time I have not played it anymore, but I did play it a number of times, some even after I started playing and doing the patch for Myriam, I really liked that game, all the possibilties, even the drawing style.
As Zorlun says, I also would have liked to see some extra thing there, but not so much to feel it is not a good game to enjoy.
Though I would say it is anyway very different from Myriam - if you are liking Myriam, do not see them as alternatives, but rather as complementary.

 

[doccop63]

No, since I started my own game, I did not touch any other adult game, I wanted to avoid being influenced.

The possible endings reachable will be a mix of choices made during the game (meaning the flags you have or not); some stats threshold; and some last minute choices made by the player (to let the player explore a few endings he has unlocked without having to restart the game a million times over).

There's no need to compare one with the other I think, they are not the same games and in the end, it's always a question of tastes, some will like what's in one and some what's in the other.
I think it's more interesting to have different genre of games out there, it's more things to explore for the players and to play depending on your mood.

It's funny, it brings me to mind one of the thing frustrating me in video games now a days, the huge dark gothic horror esthetic we have in most, if not all, souls like games, ever since Elden Ring had it's massive success, every single game of the genre (and even out of it) wants to do the same esthetic of dark gothic horror that gives you monsters that look like HP Lovecraft horrors, they all look the same, weird grotesque horrors with teeth, arms, tentacles, and other crap everywhere... It's sad to see all those game wanting to do the exact same thing.

Well, it's just human nature to want to copy what's successful. For all the talk of being original, most people will defer to a thing as a model, that made someone else successful. Unfortuunately, it is what it is.

 

[TomUK]

Well, I know the question was to Zorlun and not me, but...
Played AWAM once or twice, dropped it, as it sounded to me like milking (though I had not started sponsoring, so, cannot complain) - I like a good story, even in porn games and porn (don't laugh, I still remember an "alice in wonderland", definitively a porn, but with a story, and an actress that was very cute, not "inflated", and who could actually even sing and act, though it was a very old one, 70s), but the story did not impress me especially, and AFAIK it is a slooooooow progress and development (especially if you compare it with the almost monthly release from Zorlun ;-)).
Never played project Sage, but I did play, effectively sponsored, GGGB - it has been quite a long time I have not played it anymore, but I did play it a number of times, some even after I started playing and doing the patch for Myriam, I really liked that game, all the possibilties, even the drawing style.
As Zorlun says, I also would have liked to see some extra thing there, but not so much to feel it is not a good game to enjoy.
Though I would say it is anyway very different from Myriam - if you are liking Myriam, do not see them as alternatives, but rather as complementary.

I've only played AWAM out of those 3, I still play it as it was one of the first Adult VNs I played, I don't mind the slow burn, I see this one as a faster burn AWAM sort of, but I like this one a lot as well, of course there are things on both I wished would have been put in both of the games.

 

[Anteron]

I've only played AWAM out of those 3, I still play it as it was one of the first Adult VNs I played, I don't mind the slow burn, I see this one as a faster burn AWAM sort of, but I like this one a lot as well, of course there are things on both I wished would have been put in both of the games.

AWAM isn't slow burn, it's NO burn. Pure milking.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I'm surprised that Zara Scarlet would make such a comparison. If you play this game out to Ch3, you can see far & away, the differences in the two. AWAM is said to be a "slow burn" (in Actuality, it's more like trying to start a fire with wet wood). There is some slow burn with a couple of characters (Lucy, Nubia and the detective whose name escapes me) and then there's branches that lead directly into hot sex (the two patrol cops, Guy & his friends from the museum, Charles). Still, there's one branch where there's a naturally growing romance (Cleavon route). PLUS, there's WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY more Actual sex scenes than the blue-balling AWAM will EVER have. I thought Zara was more astute than that.

I never said it was the same, I said it was a 'kind' of parody. By saying that, I'm clearly inferring the opposite of what you suggest above. It was the commenter, I was responding to, who suggested that Zorlun remake 'A Wife and Mother', but with all the sex. My response was intended to be humorous, because this game already is 'a kind of AWAM, but with all the sex'. Notice I did say a 'kind of'. I said that specifically, for all those people who might immediately jump to the erroneous conclusion that you have.

This game contains many similarities with 'A Wife and Mother'. Both the MCs have a sexual relationship with their sons (Marc was her son in the original),both have husbands who neglect them to some extent, both have a sexual relationship with a sensitive neighbour's son, both become teachers at their children's school, and both are encouraged by a sexually adventurous close relative to become more sexually open. Eve and Sophia's sister, are almost identical characters. But like all parodies( and remember I never said it was a parody, just that it could be construed as such) this game takes those similarities to extremes, and so unlike 'the blue-balling AWAM' this game is in fact a total sexfest. It may be that Zorlun never intended this game to be based on or even a parody of AWAM, but it's clear it was heavily influenced by it, even if that was a mainly unconscious influence.