VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. End.01a+p] [Zorlun]

[CursedByAll]

Oh yeah? And what if it's all of those options? "depending on choices made" would be the biggest hint....

 

[Zorlun]

I will simply say this, I love seeing you all debate on this. ^^

I don't know why, but reading the argumentation and how I did things or said things, I have the X-Files music in head:

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Thank you for this.

 

[Acsuka]

I will simply say this, I love seeing you all debate on this. ^^

I don't know why, but reading the argumentation and how I did things or said things, I have the X-Files music in head:

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Thank you for this.

You know, people talk about two things the most: What they hate or what they love... Your game is definitely the latter, and every little or important detail can be talked about in this game... Don't change anything, do everything the way it's been done, and then players will talk about your work, and you, for a very long time...

 

[doccop63]

Oh yeah? And what if it's all of those options? "depending on choices made" would be the biggest hint....

So my question for you is: why does my comment trigger You so much? If I'm right about it, meh. If I'm Wrong about it, meh. The sun won't stop rising and falling if either happens. It will be what it will be and Zorlun's outcomes won't change my love for Project Myriam, Him Or You as a fan. Take a breath.

 

[redharvest1]

Oh yeah? And what if it's all of those options? "depending on choices made" would be the biggest hint....

So my question for you is: why does my comment trigger You so much? If I'm right about it, meh. If I'm Wrong about it, meh. The sun won't stop rising and falling if either happens. It will be what it will be and Zorlun's outcomes won't change my love for Project Myriam, Him Or You as a fan. Take a breath.

Guys you might want to take this into private chat or just shake hands and walk away... the Mods have been really cracking down on forum arguments clogging up threads lately. Just a friendly heads up.

 

[doccop63]

Guys you might want to take this into private chat or just shake hands and walk away... the Mods have been really cracking down on forum arguments clogging up threads lately. Just a friendly heads up.

Yeah, I know. I just can't figure why someone would get triggered about an opinion for a freakin' Game.

 

[redharvest1]

Yeah, I know. I just can't figure why someone would get triggered about an opinion for a freakin' Game.

Sometimes the voice in their head that they read the text with is having a bad day and interprets everything in an angry tone I guess.

 

[CursedByAll]

So my question for you is: why does my comment trigger You so much? If I'm right about it, meh. If I'm Wrong about it, meh. The sun won't stop rising and falling if either happens. It will be what it will be and Zorlun's outcomes won't change my love for Project Myriam, Him Or You as a fan. Take a breath.

Wow...
that got taken way too seriously...

I wasn't "triggered" at all. Not even in the slightest...
It was meant as a joke, or even a thought bubble... I can assure you my breathing never altered even one little bit, lol.

Sorry for whatever you think I might have meant. I actually meant nothing.
At least Zorlun saw it the right way and left a

Perhaps I have to put one of those every time too?
Here you go, the missing one.... and one for good measure

Why am I explaining this??
I wasn't even quoting you or anyone else...

 

[Zorlun]

Wow...
that got taken way too seriously...

I wasn't "triggered" at all. Not even in the slightest...
It was meant as a joke, or even a thought bubble... I can assure you my breathing never altered even one little bit, lol.

Sorry for whatever you think I might have meant. I actually meant nothing.
At least Zorlun saw it the right way and left a

Perhaps I have to put one of those every time too?
Here you go, the missing one.... and one for good measure

Why am I explaining this??
I wasn't even quoting you or anyone else...

Yes, I took it as a jest, I had a ridiculous tone of voice in my head when I read your message, so I didn't took it as a confrontational post.
But some times I guess we forget that we're not in the head of the readers and the readers are not in ours, that's the hazards of communicating on internet I suppose. ^^

 

[CursedByAll]

I had a ridiculous tone of voice in my head when I read your message

And so did I when I wrote it.
But yeah, you are right, some people misconstrue stuff when there are no emojis to back it up.


*goes back in time to read all the bbcode that supports emoji creation, in order to bring a litany of lols in play*

 

[oaiki]

So, a post triggers a retort, which triggers an argument, which triggers friendly advice, which triggers a retort, which triggers further responses ... on tenter hooks now, just waiting for the confrontational retort which will trigger the next argument ... all of which is off topic ... [sarcasm] trolls are so much fun [/sarcasm]

 

[Kheram]

Yes, I took it as a jest, I had a ridiculous tone of voice in my head when I read your message, so I didn't took it as a confrontational post.
But some times I guess we forget that we're not in the head of the readers and the readers are not in ours, that's the hazards of communicating on internet I suppose. ^^

If a person want to be offended, they will find a way to turn any joke as an offense.
American Eagle commercial is a fine example of that.

 

[ouch2020]

You know, the CUM KINK just doesn't go up high enough! Man, I just replayed this game from the start and couldn't finish it. Disgusting. Zorlun FORCES his kinks on to you, whether you like them or not. I finally got fed up and slammed the Delete key.

I may have "lost" some of the posts after - if I took the first phrase alone, I would think it is kind of ironic.

If I take the rest, actually, Project Myriam is one of the games I have seen where the percentage of avoidable stuff is the highest, so, would strongly disagree in general.
For the specific of the "cum eating" (and related cum kink), I remember pretty well that there are cases where you decide if she licks from her hand or the lavabo etc., is not forced - though I do remember vaguely from the code that if the cum kink is high enough in certain situations later in the game, then it becomes kind of automatic that she swallows and stuff like that.
At the same time, I think it is somehow normal and coherent, beyond a certain level, she is used to it - so, the point would be, avoid she does it the times when you can choose, and she will do less that.

 

[doccop63]

So, a post triggers a retort, which triggers an argument, which triggers friendly advice, which triggers a retort, which triggers further responses ... on tenter hooks now, just waiting for the confrontational retort which will trigger the next argument ... all of which is off topic ... [sarcasm] trolls are so much fun [/sarcasm]

And you're one of them by sending this. This is a Forerst Gump moment.

 

[Night Hacker]

I may have "lost" some of the posts after - if I took the first phrase alone, I would think it is kind of ironic.

If I take the rest, actually, Project Myriam is one of the games I have seen where the percentage of avoidable stuff is the highest, so, would strongly disagree in general.
For the specific of the "cum eating" (and related cum kink), I remember pretty well that there are cases where you decide if she licks from her hand or the lavabo etc., is not forced - though I do remember vaguely from the code that if the cum kink is high enough in certain situations later in the game, then it becomes kind of automatic that she swallows and stuff like that.
At the same time, I think it is somehow normal and coherent, beyond a certain level, she is used to it - so, the point would be, avoid she does it the times when you can choose, and she will do less that.

I actually checked out the game code, after my "Cum Kink" was well over 150, even though I never purposely chose it, the DEV tends to mix it in with other things. And it is raised in the middle of the code without any input or choice from you.

BUT... being a programmer, I figured out how the variables are updated (it's not as straight forward as most games, but is an array of variables) and so I set the CUM KINK to -200 so even if updated, it will still be insanely low... but... that hasn't stopped any of it.

In one section of code, the CUM KINK only effected what she SAID, not what she DOES. Like, after she licks it off of herself (barf), if she has a high cum kink, she says she loves the taste a lot, versus saying she just loves it, or she likes it at the lowest level... like that means anything. I just seen her lick it off herself.

To change the variables, you need to enable console mode (I have my own mods to do this for any game), then enter console mode and type: MCkink["Cum"]=-200 or whatever (in this case, to set it to -200). You can also set traits in a similar way with MCtrait["name of trait"] and her affections towards different people with MClove["name"]. To find out what the names of the various people, kinks, traits are in that variable, simply type MCkink and it will show them. You may have to type out "long" as a separate command to properly see all the names/text you can use and how it is spelled.

I plan to replay this, and using this sort of cheat, see how it goes after I set the Cum Kink to -200 (given the current one on a normal playthrough was well over 150 or so).

Oh, and on a side note, I fixed a bug in the code which causes a fatal exception when you look at affections (at least with the current download on here). I'll attach my fix (notification.rpy), just replace your old one with it. OR, if you want to do it manually yourself, just load up notification.rpy (in the game folder), and go to line 212 and replace it with: $number_col = int(len(discoveries["Characters"])/length_col)
Basically, I added in int() to convert his division to an integer. As it is, it does the division and returns a floating point number, which causes the crash when it gets to line 218 in his for loop, which expects an integer. I could be seeing the problem and crash due to the fact that I have on DEV mode, but... dev mode tells you were errors are, and this one was never fixed.

Anyhow, I won't bad mouth the game any more, it's just one too many scenes where she's practically bathing in cum makes me want to hurl. I otherwise like the story.

 

[ouch2020]

I actually checked out the game code, after my "Cum Kink" was well over 150, even though I never purposely chose it, the DEV tends to mix it in with other things. And it is raised in the middle of the code without any input or choice from you.

BUT... being a programmer, I figured out how the variables are updated (it's not as straight forward as most games, but is an array of variables) and so I set the CUM KINK to -200 so even if updated, it will still be insanely low... but... that hasn't stopped any of it.

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Anyhow, I won't bad mouth the game any more, it's just one too many scenes where she's practically bathing in cum makes me want to hurl. I otherwise like the story.

Very different points of view. I actually made and keep updated a patch, for which I need to modify the code every time, included sometime updating the variables, and the code, especially the variable declarations, what they mean, and the way they are updated, is one of best, clearest and simplest I have seen, not only in (porn) games, but really even in professional contexts.
It is just enough to open the variables file and can see what variables are there, and the name says directly what they are meant for.

Why I appreciate that you went through all the effort to open go console mode etc., to monitor and change variables, as well as going through different options, there is another way, since it is a ren'py game - a tool called URM that one can download here on F95, and works with many games.

 

[Night Hacker]

Very different points of view. I actually made and keep updated a patch, for which I need to modify the code every time, included sometime updating the, and the code, especially the variable declarations, what they mean, and the way they are updated, is one of best, clearest and simplest I have seen, not only in (porn) games, but really even in professional contexts.
It is just enough to open the variables file and can see what variables are there, and the name says directly what they are meant for.

Why I appreciate that you went through all the effort to open go console mode etc., to monitor and change variables, as well as going through different options, there is another way, since it is a ren'py game - a tool called URM that one can download here on F95, and works with many games.

I made my own mod, and I don't mind using the console to adjust them. It takes me a second. SHIFT+O for console mode, the MCkink["Cum"]=-200 to set it. The console mode remembers anything I typed, even between games, so if I want to change the same variable I changed previously, I go to console mode and press the up arrow to bring it back up and adjust it.

As far as which variables are in the game, that's even easier. You enable Developer mode, which my personal code does, then you press SHIFT+D to bring up the developer screen and click on VARIABLES and it will show you all the variables used in the game and what they are set to. That's built into Ren'PY, you just have to enable developer mode, which is super simple. As I said, I have my own code I use in all games which automatically adjusts various things about the interface, switches screen saves to JPG instead of PNGs (much faster at saving and virtually instant and smaller files) and a few other things. I have posted it online here in the past.

To enable console and developer mode, it's two short lines of code you write to any .rpy file and put it in the game folder. I'll attach the console.rpy file I use which enables both of them. Then press SHIFT+O for console mode, and SHIFT+D for developer mode, which gives a menu.

A handy thing to do in console mode is bring it up with SHIFT+O, then type "quick_menu = False" to disable that little quick menu at the bottom of the game screens if you don't use it, I never do.

 

[Zorlun]

I actually checked out the game code, after my "Cum Kink" was well over 150, even though I never purposely chose it, the DEV tends to mix it in with other things. And it is raised in the middle of the code without any input or choice from you.

BUT... being a programmer, I figured out how the variables are updated (it's not as straight forward as most games, but is an array of variables) and so I set the CUM KINK to -200 so even if updated, it will still be insanely low... but... that hasn't stopped any of it.

In one section of code, the CUM KINK only effected what she SAID, not what she DOES. Like, after she licks it off of herself (barf), if she has a high cum kink, she says she loves the taste a lot, versus saying she just loves it, or she likes it at the lowest level... like that means anything. I just seen her lick it off herself.

To change the variables, you need to enable console mode (I have my own mods to do this for any game), then enter console mode and type: MCkink["Cum"]=-200 or whatever (in this case, to set it to -200). You can also set traits in a similar way with MCtrait["name of trait"] and her affections towards different people with MClove["name"]. To find out what the names of the various people, kinks, traits are in that variable, simply type MCkink and it will show them. You may have to type out "long" as a separate command to properly see all the names/text you can use and how it is spelled.

I plan to replay this, and using this sort of cheat, see how it goes after I set the Cum Kink to -200 (given the current one on a normal playthrough was well over 150 or so).

Oh, and on a side note, I fixed a bug in the code which causes a fatal exception when you look at affections (at least with the current download on here). I'll attach my fix (notification.rpy), just replace your old one with it. OR, if you want to do it manually yourself, just load up notification.rpy (in the game folder), and go to line 212 and replace it with: $number_col = int(len(discoveries["Characters"])/length_col)
Basically, I added in int() to convert his division to an integer. As it is, it does the division and returns a floating point number, which causes the crash when it gets to line 218 in his for loop, which expects an integer. I could be seeing the problem and crash due to the fact that I have on DEV mode, but... dev mode tells you were errors are, and this one was never fixed.

Anyhow, I won't bad mouth the game any more, it's just one too many scenes where she's practically bathing in cum makes me want to hurl. I otherwise like the story.

The 'traits' evolve both with what she do/happen to her and what she think, not just with choices, I wanted the evolution of the 'traits' to feel not as just choices from the player, but as the character itself evolving and changing.
Though the thing is that Myriam was written to enjoy cum, the 'trait' was mostly here for players that want some extra more, changing it down manually will not erase it for the game as the game was never written to make it disappear from the start, sorry.

About the 'cum' kink, nothing much to say beside it won't go away for sure, at least not for Project Myriam, two of the biggest kinks that frustrated me in games I played before was the lack of 'anal' and the 'one second small cumshots' that disappeared on the next render, and instead of pestering the devs I chose to try myself at making one (this is not a shot at anyone here, but just a comment on my thought process at the moment I started Project Myriam).
So definitely, the over saturation of cumshots and anal is definitely due to my enjoyment of it, and it's totally fair if you prefer to stop the game if you don't enjoy it, there is no reason for anybody to force themselves playing a game with things they don't like.

I hope you can find the perfect game for you out there (there's a lot of them after all), our even try yourself to make your own like I did, meanwhile I thank you for all the time you gave Project Myriam. ^^

 

[K40sen]

was the game updated as of late?

 

[Zorlun]

was the game updated as of late?

It'll be soon, in the week or so for the early access.
This one took a bit of time as I didn't want to cut the big scene at the start of the ending chapter into multiple updates for narrative purpose.