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Zorlun

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so... the game is ending now?:cry:
As said, yes, we're at the ending chapter, not the full end, but just the start of the ending chapter.
I agree with you. From what my Miriam saw, I think some players will have trouble getting their Miriam out of there.
Well, I did not soft lock players with stats, whatever the stats, the player can escape (depending on choices made), but 'Willpower' definitely help and offer more possibilities.
did she ever bone that horse? not played in a while
Hammer had his fun, some time ago now, next time will be for his endings.
 

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Before I start getting posts asking about updating the incest patch for those interested (since I have already seen the usual posts asking for others mods to be updated)... 1) I am kind of off for the next weeks; 2) Zorlun pointed out this is going to be a big one, so, it will take a bit longer than usual after the public release for me to do the update.
 
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In fact, he stopped creating content with bestiality, but maybe that's the fault of patreon or the payment systems that impose the rules.
Payment processors should ban NTR instead. But hey, they are trying to create more simps and cucks.

Content with the bestiality has stopped? Too bad. I think there was another game that had to stop due to Patreon shenanigans (or UK?)
 

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So just to be clear everyone was forced into the path with the motel dude and the dumb giant?
Nah, from trying around Myriam can walk away and not have to put up with them much. She doesn't have to get fucked by them. But she will end up with a fucked wrist from the escape. I suppose if you want to save her you can.
 
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Well, I did not soft lock players with stats, whatever the stats, the player can escape (depending on choices made), but 'Willpower' definitely help and offer more possibilities.
hm, that explains why I was done with the update so quickly
 

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Nah, from trying around Myriam can walk away and not have to put up with them much. She doesn't have to get fucked by them. But she will end up with a fucked wrist from the escape. I suppose if you want to save her you can.
No i meant like no matter the previous choices myriam gets kidnapped after leaving the store.
 

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If I ever go for a NTR/NTS game, choices would be the most important part yes, the game would have multiple way to go about it, after that you have to determine with the setting if you go with an exploration of the kink, making partially mandatory or making it one of the main kink and making it only an explorable branch by the character.
Both would interest me to explore psychologically with the characters.
I know it's a tired discussion, but I think it isn't really possible to create a real NTR game with a female protagonist, unless somehow HER love interest (can be a man or a woman) would end up being usurped.
If you're playing the female, you're cheating. So it's a cheating game.

Semantics aside, I think seeing a game from you with either angle would be fun.

And the most important part, congratulations on getting this far, the finish line is in sight. There are so many abandoned games, but you pulled through all the way to the end (almost, but I don't suppose you're going to jump ship now), which is a major achievement in my book. I haven't played in quite a while, but I'm sure I'll check out the game again once it's well and truly done. Other than the pacing (I felt the game went a little TOO wild at times too quickly) and some minor nitpicks here and there, you did a tremendous job in my book. Thank you.
 

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No i meant like no matter the previous choices myriam gets kidnapped after leaving the store.
Yes, that was the cliffhanger ending of chapter 5, the start of the ending chapter is about Myriam escaping their clutches as the last ordeal/gauntlet of the game for her.
The game started with them and the game is ending with them (I mean as an ordeal/conflict), this part of the game was planned from the get go when I presented the game, though at first I had planned to go with a full chapter around it, with more intricacies with the family (like the famous Ma, only mentioned here), but I felt that it would only slipped too long into "torture porn" and in the end I preferred to avoid it and shorten up the part to the essential.
I know it's a tired discussion, but I think it isn't really possible to create a real NTR game with a female protagonist, unless somehow HER love interest (can be a man or a woman) would end up being usurped.
If you're playing the female, you're cheating. So it's a cheating game.

Semantics aside, I think seeing a game from you with either angle would be fun.

And the most important part, congratulations on getting this far, the finish line is in sight. There are so many abandoned games, but you pulled through all the way to the end (almost, but I don't suppose you're going to jump ship now), which is a major achievement in my book. I haven't played in quite a while, but I'm sure I'll check out the game again once it's well and truly done. Other than the pacing (I felt the game went a little TOO wild at times too quickly) and some minor nitpicks here and there, you did a tremendous job in my book. Thank you.
Not sure, no, I think you can explore a lot around it, as I answered someone else, it's all about the writing and character, though of course you escape the interpretation of the player that can be far different that what you intended, but that's the prerogative of the player.

On the subject of finishing the game, yes, it was important for me to finish it, as much for myself than for my supporters, proving that I can bring a project to its conclusion. I stated that I would only work on the next project after Project Myriam, but I fear that it might leave me after this with a big hole between the two, so as I exposed my future planning recently, I think I will bring Project Myriam to the main branching point for the endings (which should be next update), then start working on the next project in parallel of working on the ending updates for Project Myriam, so that I can cut a bit on the latency between the two, but I won't be sharing any version of the next project before fully ending Project Myriam though.
 

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Not sure, no, I think you can explore a lot around it, as I answered someone else, it's all about the writing and character, though of course you escape the interpretation of the player that can be far different that what you intended, but that's the prerogative of the player.
If this was addressing the NTR part - NTR as I understand is is basically the feeling of losing someone. Some folks on here think it's NTR if somewhere in your story, you imply that, at some point, a female love interest MIGHT have been interested in someone else, but that's not ntr. There's writers that write entire books without (or with relatively little) sexual content, just describing the agony of it all. You can have a game where infidelity or sharing plays a role, but that's not ntr.
But it's not really worth arguing about, there's no institution our there defining what constitutes ntr and what doesn't, so anybodies definition is as good as anyone elses.

On the subject of finishing the game, yes, it was important for me to finish it, as much for myself than for my supporters, proving that I can bring a project to its conclusion. I stated that I would only work on the next project after Project Myriam, but I fear that it might leave me after this with a big hole between the two, so as I exposed my future planning recently, I think I will bring Project Myriam to the main branching point for the endings (which should be next update), then start working on the next project in parallel of working on the ending updates for Project Myriam, so that I can cut a bit on the latency between the two, but I won't be sharing any version of the next project before fully ending Project Myriam though.
That's fair. While there are grifters out there, I'd presume most games are not abandoned because the devs want to stick it to their players, just something happens that outweighs their sense of - for lack of a better word - responsibility (for their players)
and so they stop working on it. This is why I think it's especially commendable that you got your game to this point before throwing the towel, I'm sure you had moments of frustration or distraction along the way. From what I remember, you didn't even really take a hiatus and had a mostly solid update schedule along the way, too. I hope you're successful with future projects. :)
 

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If this was addressing the NTR part - NTR as I understand is is basically the feeling of losing someone. Some folks on here think it's NTR if somewhere in your story, you imply that, at some point, a female love interest MIGHT have been interested in someone else, but that's not ntr. There's writers that write entire books without (or with relatively little) sexual content, just describing the agony of it all. You can have a game where infidelity or sharing plays a role, but that's not ntr.
But it's not really worth arguing about, there's no institution our there defining what constitutes ntr and what doesn't, so anybodies definition is as good as anyone elses.
I get what you mean, but you're talking of the definition of it, themes are more than their definition, exploring a theme goes from point A to point Z, you don't just drop the final result of the definition of it, like any naughty scene, you can bring a lot of psychology in it and exploration than just giving you the end result of the specific kink you exploited in your naughty scene, so yes, there is lot to explore with any theme, it's just a matter of writing as I said.

And it's not because you use a theme that you have to come to the exact same result, the interest of choices as I like to use is to see multiple result around a theme.
That's fair. While there are grifters out there, I'd presume most games are not abandoned because the devs want to stick it to their players, just something happens that outweighs their sense of - for lack of a better word - responsibility (for their players)
and so they stop working on it. This is why I think it's especially commendable that you got your game to this point before throwing the towel, I'm sure you had moments of frustration or distraction along the way. From what I remember, you didn't even really take a hiatus and had a mostly solid update schedule along the way, too. I hope you're successful with future projects. :)
Not much hiatus, no, apart from the technical ones due to the hardware problem, as well as a little vacation here and there each year, but as the saying said, "Find a job you enjoy doing, and you will never have to work a day in your life".
 

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Yes, that was the cliffhanger ending of chapter 5, the start of the ending chapter is about Myriam escaping their clutches as the last ordeal/gauntlet of the game for her.
The game started with them and the game is ending with them (I mean as an ordeal/conflict), this part of the game was planned from the get go when I presented the game, though at first I had planned to go with a full chapter around it, with more intricacies with the family (like the famous Ma, only mentioned here), but I felt that it would only slipped too long into "torture porn" and in the end I preferred to avoid it and shorten up the part to the essential.

Not sure, no, I think you can explore a lot around it, as I answered someone else, it's all about the writing and character, though of course you escape the interpretation of the player that can be far different that what you intended, but that's the prerogative of the player.

On the subject of finishing the game, yes, it was important for me to finish it, as much for myself than for my supporters, proving that I can bring a project to its conclusion. I stated that I would only work on the next project after Project Myriam, but I fear that it might leave me after this with a big hole between the two, so as I exposed my future planning recently, I think I will bring Project Myriam to the main branching point for the endings (which should be next update), then start working on the next project in parallel of working on the ending updates for Project Myriam, so that I can cut a bit on the latency between the two, but I won't be sharing any version of the next project before fully ending Project Myriam though.
Dont know if this has been asked before so if it has i apologize but is myriam a one and done game or will it be like project myriam 2 the cumback. i see you mention another project. Feels like myriam still has so much more she could do like for me personally im looking foreward to her becoming a pornstar.
 
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