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thx for answering! are these scenes more recent? (i know some of the scenes from the first couple updates but then there was many updates break with content i personally didn't enjoyed even i liked zorluns frequent updates and loyality to his fans. also happy to hear someone else doesn't enjoy bestiality content.
No trouble, to each his own, being able to avoid the content you don't really enjoy was one of the things I built into the game (depending on your choices of course).
I hope you'll still be able to have fun with the game as we approach the end now, just the endings to add from now on. ^^
 
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I enjoyed letting the story play out in a way that Myriam was a strong woman who kicked ass and pursuit her kinks on her own terms and not get abused, controlled and raped. The mere fact that the female MC does not have to be a total victim in this game alone deserves an award.
Was the same path, Myriam has taken in my version of the novel. High amount of will power, also domination. This is also what I really like in that novel. You have so many possibilities to influence the path - and as you said: female MC's really do not need to be submissive.
 

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I enjoyed letting the story play out in a way that Myriam was a strong woman who kicked ass and pursuit her kinks on her own terms and not get abused, controlled and raped. The mere fact that the female MC does not have to be a total victim in this game alone deserves an award.
Was the same path, Myriam has taken in my version of the novel. High amount of will power, also domination. This is also what I really like in that novel. You have so many possibilities to influence the path - and as you said: female MC's really do not need to be submissive.
For me it's more about giving the player the possibility to be or not to be (if Shakespeare don't mind the quote ^^ ), but I get your view, female MC games more often have the MC be submissive than not.
 

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No trouble, to each his own, being able to avoid the content you don't really enjoy was one of the things I built into the game (depending on your choices of course).
I hope you you'll still be able to have fun with the game as we approach the end now, just the endings to add from now on. ^^
hey! thx for the reply and seeing you still so active in the comments!

yeah i really try to avoid bestiality stuff and some others - others are a bit harder to avoid. speaking of avoiding: on the other hand stuff i don't want to avoid, the game pushes me to avoid them which i personally don't like that much since you put so much into choices. and some paths are way more expanded on than others (which i assume is a majority thing so i understand)

but that there are so few old and ugly guys/humanoids and then all are "cunning/mean/rude" except for the hobo which doesn't get continued i assume...

mrbombadil i just played the game with its recent updates and you are right there is more ugly/old men content but its very few and again pushed into the cockblock route with: with just choices to avoid or get a bad ending like the neighbourhood scene... in a weird horror scene with honestly was a disgusting with the limbs etc but i understand the "horror vibe" here zorlun wanted to create... yet i didn't like it. too crazy for me. also didn't like it as a bad ending option in general personally. that there can be bad endings but this crazy old fart should have a seen where he fucks her hard and wild in many positions, cums inside her but then gets killed cause its a character which surely doesn't need no further build. but i would have liked more a scene where she e.g. meets the old neighborhood man and he at first is mean but then she warms his hard and this leads to a potential passionate relationship. no bruises, not death, no violence - only potential wild rough sex. also too much naughty interaction with the "not-family-members".
(also i personally don't count the director and therapist as "old man" cause they clearly have a fit young body. i hope this is understandable.)
so yeah i see what you mean mrbombadil but for me this was still underwhelming if you have the kinks i have. - it also seems there are no "weird encounters" with mummies, aliens etc anymore... i think those were the best and ended way too early/qickly. but i also understand zorlun has to look what his main audience wants.

but i appreciate you, zorlun, try to gives as many routes with your character system as possible.
 

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hey! thx for the reply and seeing you still so active in the comments!

yeah i really try to avoid bestiality stuff and some others - others are a bit harder to avoid. speaking of avoiding: on the other hand stuff i don't want to avoid, the game pushes me to avoid them which i personally don't like that much since you put so much into choices. and some paths are way more expanded on than others (which i assume is a majority thing so i understand)

but that there are so few old and ugly guys/humanoids and then all are "cunning/mean/rude" except for the hobo which doesn't get continued i assume...

mrbombadil i just played the game with its recent updates and you are right there is more ugly/old men content but its very few and again pushed into the cockblock route with: with just choices to avoid or get a bad ending like the neighbourhood scene... in a weird horror scene with honestly was a disgusting with the limbs etc but i understand the "horror vibe" here zorlun wanted to create... yet i didn't like it. too crazy for me. also didn't like it as a bad ending option in general personally. that there can be bad endings but this crazy old fart should have a seen where he fucks her hard and wild in many positions, cums inside her but then gets killed cause its a character which surely doesn't need no further build. but i would have liked more a scene where she e.g. meets the old neighborhood man and he at first is mean but then she warms his hard and this leads to a potential passionate relationship. no bruises, not death, no violence - only potential wild rough sex. also too much naughty interaction with the "not-family-members".
(also i personally don't count the director and therapist as "old man" cause they clearly have a fit young body. i hope this is understandable.)
so yeah i see what you mean mrbombadil but for me this was still underwhelming if you have the kinks i have. - it also seems there are no "weird encounters" with mummies, aliens etc anymore... i think those were the best and ended way too early/qickly. but i also understand zorlun has to look what his main audience wants.

but i appreciate you, zorlun, try to gives as many routes with your character system as possible.
So you wanted Myriam to meet, get harassed and blackmailed by Jarvis, then end up having him as a Lover????? Man, that's more cruel than having her wind up as a sex slave. Talk about being a mindless bimbo! :love:
As far as the aliens/monsters/mummy scenes, I think now that it was Zorlun possibly testing fan response for a potential next project. That's really fantasy type stuff. It didn't really have a place in this story but yeah, ok.
 

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Zorlun a little joke, "des glaces" ? ;-)

For general information, before I get any post about the incest patch (or maybe there were already and I did not see it, I was off F95 for a bit doing other stuff, although one of the things I was doing was preparing a long post with historical information for another game)...
I started doing the update, and in theory I could release it tomorrow or at worst Tuesday, however, unless there is an overwelming emotionally tearful request that can move my stone cold hard heart :p :-D, this time I will delay till the next update from Zorlun, and then release the updated incest patch to cover both this version of the game and the next update.

Reason, Zorlun needs time to put some meat on the bones of the last scene, at the moment you (I mean, the player) have either another bad ending, or a good ending that brings you to what seems to be a list of possible last scenes that seem mutually exclusive (notice it does not mean they are one image each, they may be +/- small or big events), but that are not yet in the game.
At this point, I prefer to release the patch only were the next version will be out, with at least some of those in the game - I have the suspicion that the there will be two more updates and the Christmas gift from Zorlun will be the end of the game ;-), but I may be wrong (or Zolrun may not be able to fit everything in two updates).

Also, a spoiler for the ones that have not, from the fast play and code check I did while doing the patch update, something unexpected has a huge impact on the finale.
If Myriam did not get rid of the old pervert abusive geezer ex-neighborough a.k.a. Jarvis, and so ended up with the variable ch5_hope_broken_by_jarvis set to true, it does not matter if Myriam escapes from the kidnapping, even if she kills the uncle, avoids the yellow truck or anyway is rescued by the truck driver - you will get the "broken" bad ending.

I admit I would have done it differently, but as I always said, this is Zorlun's game and story, I put back the incest that was there originally and tried to make sure things were coherent with that element, but nothing more, and that has nothing to do with the incest element, so, it will stay the same in the incest patch.
 

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Zorlun a little joke, "des glaces" ? ;-)

For general information, before I get any post about the incest patch (or maybe there were already and I did not see it, I was off F95 for a bit doing other stuff, although one of the things I was doing was preparing a long post with historical information for another game)...
I started doing the update, and in theory I could release it tomorrow or at worst Tuesday, however, unless there is an overwelming emotionally tearful request that can move my stone cold hard heart :p :-D, this time I will delay till the next update from Zorlun, and then release the updated incest patch to cover both this version of the game and the next update.

Reason, Zorlun needs time to put some meat on the bones of the last scene, at the moment you (I mean, the player) have either another bad ending, or a good ending that brings you to what seems to be a list of possible last scenes that seem mutually exclusive (notice it does not mean they are one image each, they may be +/- small or big events), but that are not yet in the game.
At this point, I prefer to release the patch only were the next version will be out, with at least some of those in the game - I have the suspicion that the there will be two more updates and the Christmas gift from Zorlun will be the end of the game ;-), but I may be wrong (or Zolrun may not be able to fit everything in two updates).

Also, a spoiler for the ones that have not, from the fast play and code check I did while doing the patch update, something unexpected has a huge impact on the finale.
If Myriam did not get rid of the old pervert abusive geezer ex-neighborough a.k.a. Jarvis, and so ended up with the variable ch5_hope_broken_by_jarvis set to true, it does not matter if Myriam escapes from the kidnapping, even if she kills the uncle, avoids the yellow truck or anyway is rescued by the truck driver - you will get the "broken" bad ending.

I admit I would have done it differently, but as I always said, this is Zorlun's game and story, I put back the incest that was there originally and tried to make sure things were coherent with that element, but nothing more, and that has nothing to do with the incest element, so, it will stay the same in the incest patch.
The game will definitely not be finished by Christmas... ^^
With all the numerous endings to be added, I think mid 2026 is probably the most optimist... Unless the general endings go faster than expected. :unsure:
For the Jarvis trouble, like I said a few times, I will add for next update a little save with the 'Willpower' stat, it will be a good use of it and will give another chance (thought people having the Jarvis problem might probably have a low 'Willpower' ^^ ).

Be sure to check the last choice of Chapter 2 in your code (the choice leading to Anthony's 'bad' ending), I changed it now that I have added the 'bad' ending following it, which will cause trouble if you keep your old code for all the previous chapters in your i-patch (don't hesitate to pm as usual if you have some questions).

And as always, thank you for your service for the community. O7
 

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For the Jarvis trouble, like I said a few times, I will add for next update a little save with the 'Willpower' stat, it will be a good use of it and will give another chance (thought people having the Jarvis problem might probably have a low 'Willpower' ^^ ).

Be sure to check the last choice of Chapter 2 in your code (the choice leading to Anthony's 'bad' ending), I changed it now that I have added the 'bad' ending following it, which will cause trouble if you keep your old code for all the previous chapters in your i-patch (don't hesitate to pm as usual if you have some questions).

And as always, thank you for your service for the community. O7
Great, thank you ;-)
Well, it depends also on how high you put the threshold for that willpower.

Don't forget "resilience" and being resilient are not (contrary to how many people, including politicians, use it) being "strong", "though", "hard", "not going down", is the capability of going back up when you go down, and one element that can help people in not going down, but also in recovering, can also be the support and positive emotional/psychological connections around them, and positive activities (what is positive for them in various forms).
Though I would suggest not trying to push too much on the idea of "closure", for various reason (it is a rather abused and misused concept), while of course we do not want our Myriam to constantly relive past bad events.
I also have to say, there is one point where you captured quite nicely, even if it was not your intention and even if only in a light and rapid way and with the limitations of a (porn) game, an element that applies to a complex subject, PTSD.
Also, again with all the limitation etc. etc. (not repeating the same again ;-)), Dr. Silver's behaviour is in the main lines correct - do not provide an answer and/or decision, let the person find it by themselves for themselves, while also supporting the process, so that they can stand on their own "psychological legs" (if you allow me the image) and effectively work on their resilience.

I will try to compare the code, and if I have any doubt will contact you, though I will nonetheless take my time, I have to be sure I follow up on various priorities.
 
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hey! thx for the reply and seeing you still so active in the comments!

yeah i really try to avoid bestiality stuff and some others - others are a bit harder to avoid. speaking of avoiding: on the other hand stuff i don't want to avoid, the game pushes me to avoid them which i personally don't like that much since you put so much into choices. and some paths are way more expanded on than others (which i assume is a majority thing so i understand)

but that there are so few old and ugly guys/humanoids and then all are "cunning/mean/rude" except for the hobo which doesn't get continued i assume...

mrbombadil i just played the game with its recent updates and you are right there is more ugly/old men content but its very few and again pushed into the cockblock route with: with just choices to avoid or get a bad ending like the neighbourhood scene... in a weird horror scene with honestly was a disgusting with the limbs etc but i understand the "horror vibe" here zorlun wanted to create... yet i didn't like it. too crazy for me. also didn't like it as a bad ending option in general personally. that there can be bad endings but this crazy old fart should have a seen where he fucks her hard and wild in many positions, cums inside her but then gets killed cause its a character which surely doesn't need no further build. but i would have liked more a scene where she e.g. meets the old neighborhood man and he at first is mean but then she warms his hard and this leads to a potential passionate relationship. no bruises, not death, no violence - only potential wild rough sex. also too much naughty interaction with the "not-family-members".
(also i personally don't count the director and therapist as "old man" cause they clearly have a fit young body. i hope this is understandable.)
so yeah i see what you mean mrbombadil but for me this was still underwhelming if you have the kinks i have. - it also seems there are no "weird encounters" with mummies, aliens etc anymore... i think those were the best and ended way too early/qickly. but i also understand zorlun has to look what his main audience wants.

but i appreciate you, zorlun, try to gives as many routes with your character system as possible.
And the good point: we as "readers" of the novel decide to switch off path possibilities. I definitively have topics I do not want to see, like in a book novel. Then I put it away - the book. Here I go back, if the path develops in a direction I do not like and take another one.
 

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Anyway, can I escape the broken ending?
Never tried. I do assume, if Myriam is too submissive in the way you designed the character, then there is no escape. Even with her being strong, will powered, dominant, it was not easy. You needed to keep her calm, not talking, no reaction even if the guys tried to cut with the knife into her flesh. So I do assume, you need to go back to an earlier part of the novel and change the way you defined Myriam. Easy hint: When she is bringing the briefcase to the shady alley, just push it onto the jerk and don't let her into the room and dress as a hooker. Yes, you lose the lewd scene, but you might have a significant shift done to the character Myriam, that she is able to survive the barn.
 

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Anyway, can I escape the broken ending?
Never tried. I do assume, if Myriam is too submissive in the way you designed the character, then there is no escape. Even with her being strong, will powered, dominant, it was not easy. You needed to keep her calm, not talking, no reaction even if the guys tried to cut with the knife into her flesh. So I do assume, you need to go back to an earlier part of the novel and change the way you defined Myriam. Easy hint: When she is bringing the briefcase to the shady alley, just push it onto the jerk and don't let her into the room and dress as a hooker. Yes, you lose the lewd scene, but you might have a significant shift done to the character Myriam, that she is able to survive the barn.
Copy/paste of the answer to the problem you're probably having, 'bad' ending 3, with first the probable reasons, either:
- Bad ratio of 'Sadness'/'Happiness'.
- Not having solved the Jarvis problem and ending up morally broken by him as Myriam chose to service him to avoid more trouble.
The first case is hard to get honestly, so I would look into the second one, which in this case you just have to load an older save and solve the Jarvis problem on the first or second occasion, either by not giving in into his bullying; asking for help with one of the cops (if you're romancing him); using his son Bill to get help; or even fully ignore the problem.
 

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Thank you for your patience in replying to each one. You are the best game producer.

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Thank you, just doing my best while the number of people writing me or just needing help is manageable.
Don't know if I'm the best (no I'm not), but I'll take the compliment in the spirit it's given. ^^
I hope you have fun with the game until the end, and why not the next project when it happens.
 
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