VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. End.01a+p] [Zorlun]

[Walter Victor]

A word about Patreon restrictions: BULLSHIT!

There is nothing that Patreon restricts that cannot be accomplished with a patch. As proof, we already have an incest patch and a bestiality patch for this game, both of which are forbidden by Patreon. So, whatever Zorlun wants to do in this game, he CAN do. [By the way, I have become well acquainted with the problems that changed Marc from Myriam's son to her boyfriend's son. That's in the past, and I'm not trying to re-litigate that issue.]

Me, I'm interested in the possible incest aspects. I understand that the developer doesn't want to have direct incest between Myriam and Katherine. I respect that and am not trying to change his mind. But that does not mean that scenes involving Myriam and Katherine with other partners cannot be written. Nor does it prevent scenes between Myriam and her father, her brother and/or her cousin. All of it can be done by patch.

Which brings up the subject of Prometheus, this shadowy figure who provides the bestiality content. Uh huh.

It has been my understanding that Zorlun is a one-man show. So who provides the images for those patches? Who provides the connections between the main code to the patch code? Who, in fact, writes that patch code?

At the very least, I don't see Zorlun allowing someone else to provide images for scenes with Myriam and her dog or horse. So if Zorlun can provide those image, he can certainly provide the images and story lines for other scenarios that might need patching.

Obviously I believe that Prometheus = Zorlun. If I am mistaken in that assumption, I apologize in advance.

EDIT: Corrected major fuck-up!

 

[gregers]

Obviously I believe that Prometheus = Jestur. If I am mistaken in that assumption, I apologize in advance.

I'm not sure why you've decided that the dev of a whole-ass different game would be associated with the patch for this one (esp. since the version that makes it on to this site somehow comes pre-patched). It seems like a bit of a stretch.

 

[Walter Victor]

I'm not sure why you've decided that the dev of a whole-ass different game would be associated with the patch for this one (esp. since the version that makes it on to this site somehow comes pre-patched). It seems like a bit of a stretch.

You're right. There is a developer named Prometheus who is working on a very good game called, Evermore.

However, the bestiality patch that has been provided for this game is called the Prometheus Patch, and the claim has been made on this thread that Prometheus is the creator of the patch, not Zorlun.

So, is Prometheus (the developer) helping Zorlun, are they the same person, or are the names just a coincidence? Knowing the answer to that question would help toward clearing up some things in my mind.

EDIT: More fuck-up clean-up.

 

[gregers]

You're right. There is a developer named Prometheus who is working on a very good game called, Evermore.

However, the bestiality patch that has been provided for this game is called the Prometheus Patch, and the claim has been made on this thread that Prometheus is the creator of the patch, not Jestur.

So, is Prometheus (the developer) helping Jestur, are they the same person, or are the names just a coincidence? Knowing the answer to that question would help toward clearing up some things in my mind.

Again, Jestur's nothing to do with this game. This is literally the first time they've been mentioned in the 425 pages of this thread.

 

[Walter Victor]

Again, Jestur's nothing to do with this game. This is literally the first time they've been mentioned in the 425 pages of this thread.

BWAHAHAHA! Is my face RED! I have no idea where I got that. I guess I had been on the Ripples thread and became addled.

Well... Time for clean-up in Aisle 7.

 

[HypnoKitten]

Just a random note totally away from the other convos.. that scene where she is first tricked into blowing everyone, and then given over to everyone - her reactions, her unhappiness with it (potentially), the objectification.. one of the hottest scenes in any game I've played off of here. So hoping something happens in her future where more of that happens. And if not.. thank you regardless for an amazing game and scene

 

[ouch2020]

The scene where she revisits and goes all Hellraiser on those three little pervs who spied on her when out riding may need to be patch only.

Well, I guess this is the kind of statement that can start another flaming discussion , but I would not put those in the "abused Myriam" list anyway.
In the first instance, they were only looking, she was the one that went naked (if she did), and even in the second instance, she was the one that decided to let them do it and does not stop them.
Well, OK, I have to admit, unless one choses for her to be really asleep, in that case, since she is not doing it voluntarily, it can be considered they were abusive, but even then, going rampage shooting young adolescents... Naaah, we don't want our caring Myriam mom go "psyco mom serial killer", do we ? :-D

 

[Zorlun]

Wasn't that Buck from early game?

You're right, the creepy one is Buck, Jed is the real name of Dumdum.

 

[ouch2020]

Just a random note totally away from the other convos.. that scene where she is first tricked into blowing everyone, and then given over to everyone - her reactions, her unhappiness with it (potentially), the objectification.. one of the hottest scenes in any game I've played off of here. So hoping something happens in her future where more of that happens. And if not.. thank you regardless for an amazing game and scene

Well, in the past someone had suggested the possibility of a scene with the sport team or something like that, and if I remember well Zorlun had no excluded it (but even so, things may have changed, since the original suggestion was for it to somehow involve, and be linked, to Marc, but Marc may or may not go "good boy" from now on), and that could be a possibility.
Another "easy" possibility could be if she helped hobo and meets again the bullies, since they had threatened her . A third possibility could be if she gets involved in some porn photo session or porn activity later on, if she has some kinks high enough, that could bring to some scene a bit in that direction.
Actually, even just in the pool scene, if you are set so it happens with Marc and the other, the guys talk about her like if Myriam was no there, and treat here a bit in that way.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Why are we talking about them (motel guys)? They seem so far removed from the story now.

 

[Viressa]

Well, in the past someone had suggested the possibility of a scene with the sport team or something like that, and if I remember well Zorlun had no excluded it (but even so, things may have changed, since the original suggestion was for it to somehow involve, and be linked, to Marc, but Marc may or may not go "good boy" from now on), and that could be a possibility.

IIRC the Marc/Nick scene was supposed to be a gangbang by the entire team but then Zorlun scaled it back to just two characters since posing and rendering gangbang scenes takes forever, it'd have been the only content in the update if they did that.

 

[cebs]

Android port updated​

 

[ouch2020]

A word about Patreon restrictions: BULLSHIT!

There is nothing that Patreon restricts that cannot be accomplished with a patch. As proof, we already have an incest patch and a bestiality patch for this game, both of which are forbidden by Patreon. So, whatever Zorlun wants to do in this game, he CAN do.

Correct for the first part, it depends from the size and complexity of the work and availability of the assets - one can even make a patch that is actually a completely different game.
But the last bit is not completely correct, according to the information received from Zorlun himself. At the time, he indicated Patreon had clearly threatened him of consequences even if he was doing something (like making the incest patch I make) somewhere else - so, unfortunately, he is a limited in what can be associated to his name (or nickname, as far as I know, Zorlun is not his real name )

 

[ouch2020]

IIRC the Marc/Nick scene was supposed to be a gangbang by the entire team but then Zorlun scaled it back to just two characters since posing and rendering gangbang scenes takes forever, it'd have been the only content in the update if they did that.

Well, for someone my age who used Internet for as many years as I have, I should remember it, but I have to admit my ignorance (or bad memory), what is "IIRC" standing for (I mean, aside a typo for IRC, but I am sure yours is not a typo) ?
OK, so, that was that scene ?
Well, honestly, I think if Zorlun had done the scene with the whole team, it would have been rather difficult to justify how Myriam could still react with so much energy (or at all) to the reference to Katherine - after she had been "banging" (or being "banged", not sure which one was more adequate) the entire team, she would probably have been more in an "amoeba" status .
So, from that point of view, it was certainly much better this way.

 

[Night Hacker]

Well, for someone my age who used Internet for as many years as I have, I should remember it, but I have to admit my ignorance (or bad memory), what is "IIRC" standing for (I mean, aside a typo for IRC, but I am sure yours is not a typo) ?

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

 

[steveneal]

Where can I find the addon that gives me the option to do the Cassius scenes?

 

[Walter Victor]

Correct for the first part, it depends from the size and complexity of the work and availability of the assets - one can even make a patch that is actually a completely different game.

This is true of every new scene, whether it is to be patched or not. All new scenes take time and resources.

But the last bit is not completely correct, according to the information received from Zorlun himself. At the time, he indicated Patreon had clearly threatened him of consequences even if he was doing something (like making the incest patch I make) somewhere else - so, unfortunately, he is a limited in what can be associated to his name (or nickname, as far as I know, Zorlun is not his real name )

Well, you ARE making the patch, and he hasn't been banned yet. And SOMEBIDY is making the Prometheus patch and providing the assets for it, and the developer hasn't been banned for that either.

What can I say here? There are literally scores of incest games here that are also on Patreon and patched. I subscribe on Patreon to several of them. The only ones that have ever been taken down are those that tried to defy Patreon without trying a patch or code/relationship remedy. [i.e. DarkSilver, who abandoned his game, and MRDots Games, who moved his game to a separate platform.]

 

[Soraiya]

<snip>what is "IIRC" standing for</snip>

If I Recall Correctly

 

[Viressa]

Well, honestly, I think if Zorlun had done the scene with the whole team, it would have been rather difficult to justify how Myriam could still react with so much energy (or at all) to the reference to Katherine - after she had been "banging" (or being "banged", not sure which one was more adequate) the entire team, she would probably have been more in an "amoeba" status .
So, from that point of view, it was certainly much better this way.

Has a pretty easy solution in my honest opinion:



Myriam's mama bear protectiveness toward her daughter snapped her out of subspace in the scene we actually got, and I think it would have done the same if it had been a full gangbang. And I mean, you say that it's better this way, but if Zorlun had implemented an option for Myriam to be so deep into subspace that she lets the boys do whatever they want to Katherine too, I totally would have picked that option.

 

[Zorlun]

Well, you ARE making the patch, and he hasn't been banned yet. And SOMEBIDY is making the Prometheus patch and providing the assets for it, and the developer hasn't been banned for that either.

What can I say here? There are literally scores of incest games here that are also on Patreon and patched. I subscribe on Patreon to several of them. The only ones that have ever been taken down are those that tried to defy Patreon without trying a patch or code/relationship remedy. [i.e. DarkSilver, who abandoned his game, and MRDots Games, who moved his game to a separate platform.]

To make things clear (again), Patreon's T&S team has literally told me that creating a way to give access to patrons to taboo content would be cause for the Patreon's page closure.
Why I have been flagged and not others, well, good question, answer, I don't know, but since they showed me a screenshot of the game on the itchio site a few days after trying sharing it there, I think it was "snitching". Simply said, "I was lucky until I wasn't", but now that I'm on the radar, I have to be extra careful.
Prometheus' patch is not made by me and not made by a developer here, it's made by a third party modder who offered to do it and that being said, I won't go in the technicalities of the "how".