VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. End.02+p] [Zorlun]

[7_lJzWy3XxoEyow7]

Human males in this game are pretty much all POS, that's true.

But Myriam having sex with Cassius/Hammer is the definition of submission, there's nothing dominant there, she literally submit to her animalistic sexual instincts, which is to bend in front of a dominant male. That was pretty clear from the start, how could she sexually dominate an animal to begin with ? Come on.

As for the bolded part, you just described a submissive Myriam, that's all.

I'd disagree on this definition of submission you describe with Cassius/Hammer though in the way how the author lets Myriam feel guilty for the need to please Cassius animalistic needs, as she never stoped him, rather than wanting him to please her own animalistic sexual desires!
Surrendering to your own desires (animalistic sexual interaction) is not necessarily submission or beeing submissive towards the satisfaction of another human being who wants to dominate.

So I would conclude
1. The authors vision and work is to his own and I do respect that
2. Myriam is and will always be a submissive personality, with guilt-based decisions instead of consiously persuing her sexual desires
3. therefor 2 Myriam will always be conflicted on handing herself over to satisfy

PS: If the author at some point pursues creating a "Project Petlover Myriam" I'm so down for it

 

[Zara Scarlet]

so the classic "im too horny to say no" ?

No, it's because she doesn't have the will to resist Anthony. He's been conditioning her, and emotionally blackmailing her, into doing whatever he wants. Whether she feels like it, or not. In this instance, if she has enough willpower, she can summon up the courage to say no, and mean it, so that Anthony backs down. Because essentially he's a manipulative coward. Myriam was always able to stop him, he'd just convinced her over time, that it was her duty as a partner, to always acceed to his demands. Anthony understood that her overly trusting and sweet nature, was a weakness he could exploit. Which was the main reason he was with her ( alright, her being super hot and rich probably played a part as well)

 

[Azi VonVeil]

No, it's because she doesn't have the will to resist Anthony. He's been conditioning her, and emotionally blackmailing her, into doing whatever he wants. Whether she feels like it, or not. In this instance, if she has enough willpower, she can summon up the courage to say no, and mean it, so that Anthony backs down. Because essentially he's a manipulative coward. Myriam was always able to stop him, he'd just convinced her over time, that it was her duty as a partner, to always acceed to his demands. Anthony understood that her overly trusting and sweet nature, was a weakness he could exploit. Which was the main reason he was with her ( alright, her being super hot and rich probably played a part as well)

so can you brake up in this game? become single first then pursue another man or a woman?or is it just cheating?

 

[GokutheG]

so can you brake up in this game? become single first then pursue another man or a woman?or is it just cheating?

You will have a chance to break up with the bastard down the line and it's great.

 

[Azi VonVeil]

You will have a chance to break up with the bastard down the line and it's great.

so you can avoid any sex with him and dump him?
i did the same thing in gggb ,sorry eric but Eva is hotter then you XD

 

[gregers]

so you can avoid any sex with him and dump him?
i did the same thing in gggb ,sorry eric but Eva is hotter then you XD

Yup. The protagonist starts out in an abusive relationship, which she can break out of at a key point in the story, which then becomes about her finding herself and figuring out her own desires post-breakup. At that point she may e.g. go purely lesbian if that's your preference, but can also sink even further into debauched submission. She also has a "dominance" stat, but the dominant content is limited and fairly weak sauce for now.

 

[mahsta]

good game.

 

[Azi VonVeil]

Yup. The protagonist starts out in an abusive relationship, which she can break out of at a key point in the story, which then becomes about her finding herself and figuring out her own desires post-breakup. At that point she may e.g. go purely lesbian if that's your preference, but can also seek even further into debauched submission. She also has a "dominance" stat, but the dominant content is limited and fairly weak sauce for now.

and thats what makes games like this good, REAL choices. and not something simply like
a be a whore
b try to fight and fail(get raped)
c just get raped

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Human males in this game are pretty much all POS, that's true.

But Myriam having sex with Cassius/Hammer is the definition of submission, there's nothing dominant there, she literally submit to her animalistic sexual instincts, which is to bend in front of a dominant male. That was pretty clear from the start, how could she sexually dominate an animal to begin with ? Come on.

As for the bolded part, you just described a submissive Myriam, that's all.

In real life sex for animals is an instinctive behaviour. It's not really determined by choice, but by hormones and biological imperative. But this being a fantasy, Cassius has been imbued with human characteristics and as such is able to express his dominant will over Myriam, as if it was something he was consciously aware of.

In the real world though, the male dog's dominance over the female, is not an expression of will at all, but of biological necessity.

Cassius though is never really the dominant in their relationship, because he always acknowledges Myriam as his mistress. It's like he knows deep down, that she's only really allowing him to take control when they have sex. And at any moment she could take back that control, because she's a human and he's just a dog. And without his mistress to feed him and give him a comfortable place to live, his life would be a lot harder. To be a true dominant, you have to be in charge in every way, and Cassius never is.

 

[GokutheG]

Yup. The protagonist starts out in an abusive relationship, which she can break out of at a key point in the story, which then becomes about her finding herself and figuring out her own desires post-breakup. At that point she may e.g. go purely lesbian if that's your preference, but can also seek even further into debauched submission. She also has a "dominance" stat, but the dominant content is limited and fairly weak sauce for now.

I disagree. Sure her dominant trait isn't used much for sex but it's great to see Myriam not put up with anyone's abuse anymore after dealing with Anthony.

Look at how a dominant Myriam resolves the attempted blackmail by the neighbor's dad.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I disagree. Sure her dominant trait isn't used much for sex but it's great to see Myriam not put up with anyone's abuse anymore after dealing with Anthony.

Look at how a dominant Myriam resolves the attempted blackmail by the neighbor's dad.

She doesn't even need to be dominant to reject his blackmail. Even if she's normally very submissive. Him threatening her children, is enough to make her very angry and behave in a dominant way.

I think the choice where she backs down and surrenders to him, is just very uncharacteristic for her. Even if she's very submissive and might back down if someone threatened her. When it comes to her kids, she always behaves in a very different way. So for me, that choice feels totally wrong, whatever version of Myriam you're playing. And it's noticeable that's the only scene in the game ( at least where she's been given a choice), where everything about it is negative from Myriam's perspective. Even with Anthony's worst scenes, she consoles herself that she's doing her duty as a good partner.

 

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[7_lJzWy3XxoEyow7]

She doesn't even need to be dominant to reject his blackmail. Even if she's normally very submissive. Him threatening her children, is enough to make her very angry and behave in a dominant way.

I think the choice where she backs down and surrenders to him, is just very uncharacteristic for her. Even if she's very submissive and might back down if someone threatened her. When it comes to her kids, she always behaves in a very different way. So for me, that choice feels totally wrong, whatever version of Myriam you're playing. And it's noticeable that's the only scene in the game ( at least where she's been given a choice), where everything about it is negative from Myriam's perspective. Even with Anthony's worst scenes, she consoles herself that she's doing her duty as a good partner.

This scene I thought there is a beginning of character evolution, but no it is not.

 

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[TheLecher]

i did the same thing in gggb ,sorry eric but Eva is hotter then you XD

Team Eric.

 

[Leongen43]

I disagree. Sure her dominant trait isn't used much for sex but it's great to see Myriam not put up with anyone's abuse anymore after dealing with Anthony.

Look at how a dominant Myriam resolves the attempted blackmail by the neighbor's dad.

It's true, I like a Myriam who is strong-willed and dominant in her actions but the last update I lost a lot of points of dominance and will because Myriam was handcuffed and became Danzel and Danny's BBC slave, the sex scene was very hot but I would have liked it glad not to lose those points

 

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[Zara Scarlet]

so you can avoid any sex with him and dump him?
i did the same thing in gggb ,sorry eric but Eva is hotter then you XD

Well actually, there's an anal scene between her and Anthony their first night in the new house, which is unavoidable. You only get to choose whether Myriam is more exhibitionist and agrees to get in the pool naked, which leads to Anthony fucking her there. If you choose to have Myriam wear a swimsuit, she gets shy and only agrees to do it in the bedroom. In both cases she does it willingly and enjoys it. But in the former case, she gets excited by being nude and has an orgasm. In the latter case, there's a connecting scene, with Marc hearing them in the adjoining bedroom, and masturbating to Myriam's cries of pleasure.

 

[Azi VonVeil]

Well actually there's an anal scene between her and Anthony their first night in the new house, which is unavoidable. You only get to choose whether Myriam is more exhibitionist and agrees to get in the pool naked, which leads to Anthony fucking her there. If you choose to have Myriam wear a swimsuit, she gets shy and only agrees to do it in the bedroom. In both cases she does it willingly and enjoys it. But in the former case, she gets excited by being nude and has an orgasm. In the latter case, there's a connecting scene, with Marc hearing them in the adjoining bedroom, and masturbating to Myriam's cries of pleasure.

i was kinda worried about that....thats the main issue i have with game where your start in a relationship, at least in gggb there is only implied sex but all scenes can be avoided